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5 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

It shows me those people aren't really "thinking" at all....

 

If you were willing to take 2 shots, without any lasting ill effects, (which happened in the vast majority of cases) why would you hesitate to get a booster (or two)?

Probably because they dont feel that they will receive much benefit from an additional dose.

Indications seem to be that young, healthy, double or triple vaccinated people, who have already had covid, do not receive any benefit from additional doses. 

Older people and the immune compromised seem to be a different story and should probably continue boosting.

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2 hours ago, KristoffWixenschon said:

I agree completely. Those who havent received it yet are not going to be convinced with more public health messaging. 

thats really it. So to me, why spend any resources on them anymore? I just don't see why anyone should put the effort in. 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-covid-19-deaths-climb-by-32-as-hospitalizations-continue-to-rise-1.6622660

 

"Province likely to surpass 5,000 total deaths next week

Alberta's COVID-19 death toll climbed by 32 over the last reporting week, provincial data shows.

Since the pandemic began, 4,983 Albertans have died from COVID-19 as of Monday. The province will likely surpass total 5,000 COVID-related deaths next week. 

Meanwhile, 56 more people are in hospital with COVID compared to the last update. There are 1,070 people in hospital including 33 in ICU.

Between Oct. 11-17, 1,387 cases were detected on PCR tests.  The seven-day average for test positivity was about 18.45 per cent, down slightly from last week, which was 19.08 per cent. 

 

There may be more virus circulating in the community, however, as provincial data excludes positive rapid-test results and most Albertans are ineligible to receive a PCR test.

As of end-of-day Monday, 77.8 per cent of Alberta's population have received two doses of COVID-19 vaccine; 82.2 per cent of Albertans have had at least one dose.

Of all Albertans, 39.7 per cent have received three doses.

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1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

 

I don't offer any rubuttal anymore.

I just give them a 'uh huh'.

there isn't one you could offer them. 

 

They operate in their own worlds. You occupy the same physical space, but thats it. 

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Just now, JM_ said:

let me guess, "and the MSM isn't talking about it" 

 

yep.

Get that from the same guy too.

Usually starts with....'what the cbc isn't telling you...'

 

Last week I corrcted him on one thing, despite my lack of williness to debate much anymore. 

He ignorantly claimed ' this is something you wont hear on msm! Justin Trudeau's inquiry starts today!'

I calmly replyed...'it's the lead story on CBC'

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Just now, bishopshodan said:

yep.

Get that from the same guy too.

Usually starts with....'what the cbc isn't telling you...'

 

Last week I corrcted him on one thing, despite my lack of williness to debate much anymore. 

He ignorantly claimed ' this is something you wont hear on msm! Justin Trudeau's inquiry starts today!'

I calmly replyed...'it's the lead story on CBC'

how does he know whats on MSM if he doesn't look at MSM? 

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Just now, JM_ said:

how does he know whats on MSM if he doesn't look at MSM? 

Exactly.

There is this weird thought amognst some, that feels as they think people only watch cable tv and don't know about the internet.

 

The only people I know that seem to have limited sources are the ones that make these kinds of MSM claims. 

It's why I like CDC alot. Folks are great at posting their sources....from a wide variety of outlets. 

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Malhotra studied medicine at the University of Edinburgh and graduated in 2001.[18] He spent his foundation years as a doctor in Scotland, at Wishaw General Hospital then at the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh and finally at Liberton Hospital which specialises in care of the elderly.[18] He completed his post-graduate medical diploma during two years working at the Manchester Royal Infirmary.[18] He held specialist registrar positions at St James's University Hospital in Leeds and Blackpool Victoria Hospital.[18]

Malhotra has held cardiology posts with the UK National Health Service as a cardiology specialist registrar at Harefield Hospital,[18][19] at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead[18] and as an Honorary Consultant Cardiologist at Frimley Park Hospital.[20][21] He is a former Consultant Clinical Associate to the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges[20] and is a visiting professor at Bahiana School of Medicine and Public Health, Salvador, Brazil.[22][23] In 2015 he was appointed as a trustee of the King's Fund and was reappointed for a further three years in 2018.[

 

 

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1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

Exactly.

There is this weird thought amognst some, that feels as they think people only watch cable tv and don't know about the internet.

bingo :lol: its like theres only room for one source for them, so you must be the same way. 

 

 

1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

The only people I know that seem to have limited sources are the ones that make these kinds of MSM claims. 

It's why I like CDC alot. Folks are great at posting their sources....from a wide variety of outlets. 

maybe tell him you only watch Al Jazeera, see what shakes. 

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Just now, JM_ said:

bingo :lol: its like theres only room for one source for them, so you must be the same way. 

 

 

maybe tell him you only watch Al Jazeera, see what shakes. 

His recent AB claim comes from a report that 'unknown causes' are now the leading killer. More than heart disease, strokes and diabetes combined.

Multiple reports claim that there is no evidence to point to the the vax, but he wont beleive that. 

Dementia then covid are #2 and #3 killers.

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29 minutes ago, mdehaan said:

Malhotra studied medicine at the University of Edinburgh and graduated in 2001.[18] He spent his foundation years as a doctor in Scotland, at Wishaw General Hospital then at the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh and finally at Liberton Hospital which specialises in care of the elderly.[18] He completed his post-graduate medical diploma during two years working at the Manchester Royal Infirmary.[18] He held specialist registrar positions at St James's University Hospital in Leeds and Blackpool Victoria Hospital.[18]

Malhotra has held cardiology posts with the UK National Health Service as a cardiology specialist registrar at Harefield Hospital,[18][19] at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead[18] and as an Honorary Consultant Cardiologist at Frimley Park Hospital.[20][21] He is a former Consultant Clinical Associate to the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges[20] and is a visiting professor at Bahiana School of Medicine and Public Health, Salvador, Brazil.[22][23] In 2015 he was appointed as a trustee of the King's Fund and was reappointed for a further three years in 2018.[

 

 

He's also very good at face offs.

 

Thanks for posting, this must fuel the line drawing towards the vax that I was stating some of the anti-vax crowd is going on about.

 

 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, mdehaan said:

Malhotra studied medicine at the University of Edinburgh and graduated in 2001.[18] He spent his foundation years as a doctor in Scotland, at Wishaw General Hospital then at the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh and finally at Liberton Hospital which specialises in care of the elderly.[18] He completed his post-graduate medical diploma during two years working at the Manchester Royal Infirmary.[18] He held specialist registrar positions at St James's University Hospital in Leeds and Blackpool Victoria Hospital.[18]

Malhotra has held cardiology posts with the UK National Health Service as a cardiology specialist registrar at Harefield Hospital,[18][19] at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead[18] and as an Honorary Consultant Cardiologist at Frimley Park Hospital.[20][21] He is a former Consultant Clinical Associate to the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges[20] and is a visiting professor at Bahiana School of Medicine and Public Health, Salvador, Brazil.[22][23] In 2015 he was appointed as a trustee of the King's Fund and was reappointed for a further three years in 2018.[

 

 

In....all.....

 

697,000 people died from heart related disease attacks or illnesses in the US alone in 2021.  In the US alone.  1 out of every 5 deaths.  in 2019 it was 32% of global mortality.

 

But "all" heart issues are now due to the vaccine.

 

K

 

While an expert, it seems he is currently far from credible in his claims.

 

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/article-by-cardiologist-aseem-malhotra-made-unsupported-claims-about-benefits-risks-covid-19-vaccination/

 

 

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36 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

His recent AB claim comes from a report that 'unknown causes' are now the leading killer. More than heart disease, strokes and diabetes combined.

Multiple reports claim that there is no evidence to point to the the vax, but he wont beleive that. 

Dementia then covid are #2 and #3 killers.

if you really want to mess with him, ask him if its frustrating for him that he lives in a province where his vote doesn't count. 

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21 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

In....all.....

 

697,000 people died from heart related disease attacks or illnesses in the US alone in 2021.  In the US alone.  1 out of every 5 deaths.  in 2019 it was 32% of global mortality.

 

But "all" heart issues are now due to the vaccine.

 

K

I'd like to know how many unknown deaths there was in 2019, before the vax.

 

Let's say the vax does "likely play a significant role  in being a primary cause in unexpected cardiac arrests' and that has pushed unknown deaths into the #1 spot.

Don't we need to subtract the amount of unknown deaths in a pre-vax year from this total? 

Even if true, you cant claim all unknown deaths in the province are due to the vax!

 

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2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I'd like to know how many unknown deaths there was in 2019, before the vax.

 

Let's say the vax does "likely play a significant role  in being a primary cause in unexpected cardiac arrests' and that has pushed unexpected deaths into the #1 spot.

Don't we need to subtract the amount of unexpected deaths in a pre-vax year from this total? 

Even if true, you cant claim all unexpected deaths in the province are due to the vax!

 

it took me 9 seconds to find this: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310039401

 

there are not "unknown" causes of death on the rise. 

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8 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I'd like to know how many unknown deaths there was in 2019, before the vax.

 

Let's say the vax does "likely play a significant role  in being a primary cause in unexpected cardiac arrests' and that has pushed unexpected deaths into the #1 spot.

Don't we need to subtract the amount of unexpected deaths in a pre-vax year from this total? 

Even if true, you cant claim all unexpected deaths in the province are due to the vax!

 

Yes, we do. Good point.

 

Had you heard of myocarditis before 2020? What about sudden adult death syndrome?

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