Coronavirus outbreak

[nuckin_futz]

It's a long read but worth it if you're interested.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Playoff Beered]

House COVID panel accuses Trump administration of exacerbating the pandemic in its final report

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3768506-house-covid-panel-accuses-trump-administration-of-exacerbating-the-pandemic-in-its-final-report/

[RUPERTKBD]

When ignorance and stupidity become life threatening

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/09/asia/baby-w-surgery-scli-intl-wellness/index.html

 

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A six-month-old baby whose parents refused to allow him to undergo lifesaving heart surgery using blood from people vaccinated against Covid-19 has been operated on in a New Zealand hospital.

Earlier this week, a judge ruled that the boy, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, would remain under the court’s guardianship until he had recovered from the surgery.

The court also appointed two doctors as its agents to oversee issues around the operation and the administration of blood, according to court documents.

The baby has a congenital heart defect and needed urgent open heart surgery to survive – but the operation was delayed by his parents’ insistence that only blood from donors not vaccinated against Covid-19 be used.

Speaking to CNN affiliate Radio New Zealand (RNZ) on Friday, the parents’ lawyer, Sue Grey, confirmed they had texted her to say the surgery was complete and that their son was doing well.

Police were called in by the hospital on Thursday after the baby’s parents prevented doctors from taking blood from him for testing, or performing a chest X-ray or an anesthetic assessment, RNZ reported.

A new ruling on Thursday night ordered that the parents stop blocking doctors’ attempts to prepare for the operation.

The case has drawn attention to the ramifications of vaccine misinformation two years into global inoculation drives.

 

When you see someone downplaying Covid disinformation, show them this story about how a baby almost died, because the parents are morons......and likely would have, had the courts not stepped in.....

[thedestroyerofworlds]

3 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

When ignorance and stupidity become life threatening

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/09/asia/baby-w-surgery-scli-intl-wellness/index.html

 

When you see someone downplaying Covid disinformation, show them this story about how a baby almost died, because the parents are morons......and likely would have, had the courts not stepped in.....

Anti-vaxx is a death cult.  Plain and simple. 

 

Anyone who buys into their garbage is exacerbating things.  

[thedestroyerofworlds]

4 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

One good thing is hospitalizations and deaths haven't really shot up.  They've been pretty "steady".  

[D.B Cooper]

I got covid again. (4th time).  Booooo
Good thing I got that vax.  Hahahah

 

The worst part about it is I have a broken rib and every time I cough or sneeze, I want to cry from the pain.  
 

 

[D.B Cooper]

10 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

One good thing is hospitalizations and deaths haven't really shot up.  They've been pretty "steady".  

I can’t believe people are still listening to those numbers after they came out and told us themselves they are counting in a flawed way.  
Those death numbers don’t mean shit. 
Those 15-20 a week is more like 1-2 MAYBE. And they were almost guaranteed to be very old and already on the way out.  
 

If you went to a bar and asked for a beer, and the bartender said it’s gonna be 90% urine.  Would you still buy that beer?  

Bonny and BC is selling us a cup of piss, and people keep sipping.   
It’s insane. 

[thedestroyerofworlds]

1 hour ago, D.B Cooper said:

I can’t believe people are still listening to those numbers after they came out and told us themselves they are counting in a flawed way.  
Those death numbers don’t mean shit. 
Those 15-20 a week is more like 1-2 MAYBE. And they were almost guaranteed to be very old and already on the way out.  
 

If you went to a bar and asked for a beer, and the bartender said it’s gonna be 90% urine.  Would you still buy that beer?  

Bonny and BC is selling us a cup of piss, and people keep sipping.   
It’s insane. 

Gonna need a source for that one.

[D.B Cooper]

3 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Gonna need a source for that one.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british-columbia/2022/5/26/1_5920782.amp.html

[thedestroyerofworlds]

6 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british-columbia/2022/5/26/1_5920782.amp.html

So not 1 or 2 you claimed as per the article you shared.  

[D.B Cooper]

26 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

So not 1 or 2 you claimed as per the article you shared.  

Who knows?   
You can’t trust their numbers.  
maybe it’s 0

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6412742

 

“It also says that reporting on deaths is changing to count all deaths that occurred within 30 days of the person's positive lab result, regardless of whether the underlying cause of death was found to be linked to COVID-19.”

Edited December 10, 2022 by D.B Cooper

[4petesake]

12 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

Who knows?   
You can’t trust their numbers.  
maybe it’s 0

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6412742

 

“It also says that reporting on deaths is changing to count all deaths that occurred within 30 days of the person's positive lab result, regardless of whether the underlying cause of death was found to be linked to COVID-19.”

I take your point but using the rate cited in the article of 46% the number would still  be 7-8 deaths from Covid.

[D.B Cooper]

5 minutes ago, 4petesake said:

I take your point but using the rate cited in the article of 46% the number would still  be 7-8 deaths from Covid.

Yeah, but that number is basically just an estimate like mine. 
And seeing as they are using an obviously misleading way of reporting to us for some reason, I have no reason to trust the numbers. 
Also, never any mention in these weekly reports of the age of the deaths, but with a little google search, you see they are mostly 80+, which means for the overwhelming majority, this isn’t something we have to worry about. 

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, D.B Cooper said:

Who knows?   
You can’t trust their numbers.  
maybe it’s 0

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6412742

 

“It also says that reporting on deaths is changing to count all deaths that occurred within 30 days of the person's positive lab result, regardless of whether the underlying cause of death was found to be linked to COVID-19.”

That's from april 7th.

 

For reference.  My dad died from covid.  He was the highest possible risk category.  Covid didn't kill him, it just exacerbated everything until his body just shut down.  They explained this in depth very clearly when they made this announcement in that it would be counted as a cause of death regardless of which underlying conditions existed as they didn't have the manpower to do an autopsy on every single death from a high risk person who died due to or due to complications from covid.

 

My dad, died from complications due to covid, but was listed as a covid death.  It is not in fact wrong.

 

Much like the little girl in Westbank who died from toxic shock/sepsis brought on by strep throat, or the young girl in burnaby who died from the flu (both within the last few weeks) who had full autopsies done as they were not high risk and had no underlying conditions.  As they were young and healthy a cause of or proper cause of death was needed.

 

There are variables and reasons why they made this announcement and why it in fact varies from case to case based on age and medical health.

[D.B Cooper]

42 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

That's from april 7th.

 

For reference.  My dad died from covid.  He was the highest possible risk category.  Covid didn't kill him, it just exacerbated everything until his body just shut down.  They explained this in depth very clearly when they made this announcement in that it would be counted as a cause of death regardless of which underlying conditions existed as they didn't have the manpower to do an autopsy on every single death from a high risk person who died due to or due to complications from covid.

 

My dad, died from complications due to covid, but was listed as a covid death.  It is not in fact wrong.

 

Much like the little girl in Westbank who died from toxic shock/sepsis brought on by strep throat, or the young girl in burnaby who died from the flu (both within the last few weeks) who had full autopsies done as they were not high risk and had no underlying conditions.  As they were young and healthy a cause of or proper cause of death was needed.

 

There are variables and reasons why they made this announcement and why it in fact varies from case to case based on age and medical health.

We have talked about this in the past Hippy.  
Obviously it is taking people out.  
But

If you don’t have the man power to do the proper investigations and find the actual causes, it’s very misleading to go ahead and count them and report them to the public anyway. 
It’s very dishonest 

[The Arrogant Worms]

Flu, RSV, COVID spiking in Kansas and Missouri. Hospitals reaching capacity

 

Flu-like illnesses like COVID-19, RSV, the flu and other viruses are on the rise in Kansas City and beyond.

 

This week’s data shows COVID-19 cases continuing to increase in all five counties and two cities that make up the metro area. Data reported on Tuesday shows that there have been 1,643 new cases reported in the metro in the past week.

 

That’s higher than the 1,309 cases reported the previous week and 997 the week prior. Local experts have warned of an increase in viral illness around the metro as flu season coincides with an RSV outbreak and colder weather causes more residents to gather indoors.

 

Children’s Mercy Hospital is already at capacity with sick patients, and other hospitals are starting to feel the strain as well. How are hospitals holding up against the surge in viral illness?

 

As of Thursday morning, the University of Kansas Health System reported having 45 patients with active COVID-19 infections, five of whom are in the ICU. “Our number of active infections has gone up from the past couple of weeks, where it has been in the mid-20’s to low 30’s,” said Dr. Dana Hawkinson,

 

Mid-America Regional Council data shows that hospital beds in the metro area are filled at around 82.5% capacity as of Monday, Dec. 5. COVID-19 patients make up just over 5% of the total bed capacity in the metro.

 

The Kansas Department of Health and Environment tracks two metrics of “flu-like illness,” which Hawkinson said includes COVID-19, RSV and other viruses that cause fever and either a cough or sore throat. The percentage of patients exhibiting these symptoms has skyrocketed in recent weeks, far surpassing the positivity rates of the past two years.

 

Should I get vaccinated even if I’ve already been sick?

 

Hawkinson recommended getting vaccinated for the flu and for COVID-19 amid recent surges in both viruses. This is true even if you have recently been sick with a flu-like illness.

 

“For influenza, it is recommended that you still get that influenza vaccine even if you’ve had it (recently),” Hawkinson said.

 

That’s because the flu shot offers protection against four strains of the flu— and even if you’ve been sick already, the vaccine can help prevent you from getting reinfected with a different strain. The same is true for COVID-19. “It is still recommended that if you’ve had COVID-19, that you do get updated with a booster if you haven’t already,”

 

Hawkinson added. “That can be done as early as the ten days when you’re out of isolation… but there is also the consideration from the CDC that you can wait up to 90 days after having the acute illness before getting your booster.”

 

 

 

 

 

[Elias Pettersson]

20 hours ago, Warhippy said:

That's from april 7th.

 

For reference.  My dad died from covid.  He was the highest possible risk category.  Covid didn't kill him, it just exacerbated everything until his body just shut down.  They explained this in depth very clearly when they made this announcement in that it would be counted as a cause of death regardless of which underlying conditions existed as they didn't have the manpower to do an autopsy on every single death from a high risk person who died due to or due to complications from covid.

 

My dad, died from complications due to covid, but was listed as a covid death.  It is not in fact wrong.

 

Much like the little girl in Westbank who died from toxic shock/sepsis brought on by strep throat, or the young girl in burnaby who died from the flu (both within the last few weeks) who had full autopsies done as they were not high risk and had no underlying conditions.  As they were young and healthy a cause of or proper cause of death was needed.

 

There are variables and reasons why they made this announcement and why it in fact varies from case to case based on age and medical health.

RIP Mr. Warhippy...   

 

I think what scares people the most is they see these numbers and then worry about even leaving the house.  My sister hasn't left the house in 2 years.  She got bell's palsy years ago and now is scared sh*tless to get COVID because she thinks she is going to die.  She doesn't even let her son come to visit her unless he stays outside the house.

 

If the government was more transparent with the numbers and actually reported that most of these deaths are people in their 80's (I believe the average age of death is 86), and that over half of the deaths are from underlying conditions not related to COVID then more people I think would feel better about themselves and at least try and go out and have a life.  I feel sorry for my sister.  I've tried to help her as much as I can but she won't listen.  I blame the government for scaring her to death.

 

If you feel sick, then stay home and wear a mask if you need to go out.  Be up to date on your vaccines.  Most importantly, stop watching the news and try to enjoy life.  I believe a positive attitude helps your immune system as well as taking vitamin c, vitamin d and eating lots of salmon.  This is what I do and I haven't been sick at all since the pandemic started.

Edited December 11, 2022 by Elias Pettersson

[Gurn]

7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

She got bell's palsy years ago and now is scared sh*tless to get COVID because she thinks she is going to die.

 

8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

over half of the deaths are from underlying conditions not related to COVID

Do you think that Bell's Palsy would not be considered an 'underlying' condition?

[Elias Pettersson]

6 minutes ago, Gurn said:

 

Do you think that Bell's Palsy would not be considered an 'underlying' condition?

Yes, I do.  Doesn't mean my sister needs to not have a life at all and just stay home forever though...