Alflives Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/19/2023 at 11:59 PM, VancouverHabitant said: Demanding people to get vaccinated after they've had Covid is not only wrong, it's also idiotic and dangerous. We have seen this demonstrated through different studies now. That's been my issue and yes, exposing yourself to Covid without the vaccines was more dangerous. I didn't like the cookie cutter "Get vaccinated!!!!" message. Weren’t there morons attending “catch Covid parties” and ending up dying from the disease? no health care for Covid for adults who refuse vaccination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Weren’t there morons attending “catch Covid parties” and ending up dying from the disease? no health care for Covid for adults who refuse vaccination. That'll never fly. Nice try though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Weren’t there morons attending “catch Covid parties” and ending up dying from the disease? no health care for Covid for adults who refuse vaccination. Yup, it happened in Edson. If getting covid was a loophole, there would have been more. Alberta COVID party sends several people to hospital with virus https://calgary-citynews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/calgary.citynews.ca/2021/09/23/alberta-covid-party-hospital/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16770879474684&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fcalgary.citynews.ca%2F2021%2F09%2F23%2Falberta-covid-party-hospital%2F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Wonder if we'll ever find out..... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/26/covid-virus-likely-laboratory-leak-us-energy-department Covid-19 likely emerged from laboratory leak, US energy department says Updated finding a departure from previous studies on how the virus emerged and comes with ‘low confidence’ The virus which drove the Covid-19 pandemic most likely emerged from a laboratory leak but not as part of a weapons program, according to an updated and classified 2021 US energy department study provided to the White House and senior American lawmakers, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday. The department’s finding – a departure from previous studies on how the virus emerged – came in an update to a document from the office of National Intelligence director Avril Haines. It follows an FBI finding, issued with “moderate confidence”, that the virus spread after leaking out of a Chinese laboratory. The conclusion from the energy department – which oversees a network of 17 US laboratories, including areas of advanced biology – is considered significant despite the fact that, as the report said, the agency made its updated judgment with “low confidence”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 hours ago, UnkNuk said: Wonder if we'll ever find out..... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/26/covid-virus-likely-laboratory-leak-us-energy-department Covid-19 likely emerged from laboratory leak, US energy department says Updated finding a departure from previous studies on how the virus emerged and comes with ‘low confidence’ The virus which drove the Covid-19 pandemic most likely emerged from a laboratory leak but not as part of a weapons program, according to an updated and classified 2021 US energy department study provided to the White House and senior American lawmakers, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday. The department’s finding – a departure from previous studies on how the virus emerged – came in an update to a document from the office of National Intelligence director Avril Haines. It follows an FBI finding, issued with “moderate confidence”, that the virus spread after leaking out of a Chinese laboratory. The conclusion from the energy department – which oversees a network of 17 US laboratories, including areas of advanced biology – is considered significant despite the fact that, as the report said, the agency made its updated judgment with “low confidence”. Updated with low confidence. Listen, there is no doubt thar the lab was researching coronaviruses. There is a published record of it. The viruses and the methods they used in those studies would not produce the virus of this pandemic. It would require changes. Changes that would have to be documented. No lab makes significant changes to their research without some sort of record. If this virus is the first one that resulted from said changes, with no notification to the agencies that funded said research, I've got a bridge to sell ya. No one has been able to provide any actual evidence to support this. The circumstantial evidence doesn't really line up. Give us the goods lab leakers. Please. Otherwise, lab leakers got nothing. Claiming conspiracy just proves they've got nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Updated with low confidence. Listen, there is no doubt thar the lab was researching coronaviruses. There is a published record of it. The viruses and the methods they used in those studies would not produce the virus of this pandemic. It would require changes. Changes that would have to be documented. No lab makes significant changes to their research without some sort of record. If this virus is the first one that resulted from said changes, with no notification to the agencies that funded said research, I've got a bridge to sell ya. No one has been able to provide any actual evidence to support this. The circumstantial evidence doesn't really line up. Give us the goods lab leakers. Please. Otherwise, lab leakers got nothing. Claiming conspiracy just proves they've got nothing. Yes, the report from the Energy Department comes with low confidence. But, before, they were undecided. Also, as the article states, the FBI believes the virus was lab-made with medium confidence. And speaking of low confidence, it appears that the US agencies who believe that the virus came from natural causes also classify their findings as low confidence. Here's a link to a WSJ article that goes into it a bit more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a Personally, I have no idea where the virus came from. But it seems like it's still an open question. At least as far as US intelligence agencies are concerned. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 The death cult that is anti-vaxx has been emboldened to the point where legislation is being proposed with their fingerprints all over it. https://www.milescitystar.com/news/montana/bill-banning-vaccinated-blood-donations-would-decimate-blood-supply-opponents-say/article_0513af82-b78c-11ed-b3f1-2f705c4b6833.html Bill banning vaccinated blood donations would ‘decimate’ blood supply, opponents say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: The death cult that is anti-vaxx has been emboldened to the point where legislation is being proposed with their fingerprints all over it. https://www.milescitystar.com/news/montana/bill-banning-vaccinated-blood-donations-would-decimate-blood-supply-opponents-say/article_0513af82-b78c-11ed-b3f1-2f705c4b6833.html Bill banning vaccinated blood donations would ‘decimate’ blood supply, opponents say What do you expect from a nation that's anti-science and and anti medicine? Take some dewormer you'll be just fine! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 29 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: The death cult that is anti-vaxx has been emboldened to the point where legislation is being proposed with their fingerprints all over it. https://www.milescitystar.com/news/montana/bill-banning-vaccinated-blood-donations-would-decimate-blood-supply-opponents-say/article_0513af82-b78c-11ed-b3f1-2f705c4b6833.html Bill banning vaccinated blood donations would ‘decimate’ blood supply, opponents say Most ignorant, selfish, and childish group of people ever are the antivaxxers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 4/30/2020 at 9:50 AM, HI5 said: You share yours, I’ll share mine Christopher Dunlop On 4/29/2020 at 7:15 PM, Kanukfanatic said: Oh yeah? What is his name. I don't believe it. Source? Edit: I confirmed with a local prison that (because of my job), although media says otherwise, they released no one due to covid. So releasing a murderer makes no sense. So no, it did not happen unless you provide proof imo. This asshole just got arrested for a second murder now. Let out early during covid (both in Calgary, so rules in BC may have been different). https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/deerfoot-calgary-judy-laura-1.6766379 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/2/2023 at 5:33 PM, HI5 said: This asshole just got arrested for a second murder now. Let out early during covid (both in Calgary, so rules in BC may have been different). https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/deerfoot-calgary-judy-laura-1.6766379 Sorry, where are you getting that he was let out early? According to the article, he was sentenced to 6-1/2 years in 2015, which would mean his release date was in 2021 or 2022. This is not to say that I think there is anything fair about the sentencing of this guy, but I don't see anything that suggests he was let out early, or that it had anything to do with Covid.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 3/1/2023 at 10:57 AM, thedestroyerofworlds said: The death cult that is anti-vaxx has been emboldened to the point where legislation is being proposed with their fingerprints all over it. https://www.milescitystar.com/news/montana/bill-banning-vaccinated-blood-donations-would-decimate-blood-supply-opponents-say/article_0513af82-b78c-11ed-b3f1-2f705c4b6833.html Bill banning vaccinated blood donations would ‘decimate’ blood supply, opponents say Well...just like they were offered the choice whether to get vaccinated, they will also have the choice to accept donated blood, or not. All is fair in the free world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 It's not over, my nephew in law down in Seattle has tested positive. He's in the medical profession, and takes all kinds of precautions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 There's a good piece in The Conversation this morning. My ability to copy/paste the article and retain the formatting is absolute ass, so I'll just provide the URL. https://theconversation.com/ageism-and-the-pandemic-how-canada-continues-to-let-older-adults-suffer-and-die-from-covid-19-201630 The data and assertions they make are dated, but the principles they state remain sound. People who can't be bothered to give a f**k (which includes those who are starting not to give a f**k by taking precautions such as masking in settings with large gatherings) are what's helping to continue to propagate this virus. I'm somewhat guilty of it myself, as I've started to minimize masking in some settings, which does increase the risk of me catching it and spreading it asymptomatically (I will still isolate myself when I have symptoms). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 34 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: There's a good piece in The Conversation this morning. My ability to copy/paste the article and retain the formatting is absolute ass, so I'll just provide the URL. https://theconversation.com/ageism-and-the-pandemic-how-canada-continues-to-let-older-adults-suffer-and-die-from-covid-19-201630 The data and assertions they make are dated, but the principles they state remain sound. People who can't be bothered to give a f**k (which includes those who are starting not to give a f**k by taking precautions such as masking in settings with large gatherings) are what's helping to continue to propagate this virus. I'm somewhat guilty of it myself, as I've started to minimize masking in some settings, which does increase the risk of me catching it and spreading it asymptomatically (I will still isolate myself when I have symptoms). Enough is enough. If you want to wear a mask, then do it. This article stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 55 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: Enough is enough. If you want to wear a mask, then do it. This article stinks Nope. If people are feeling sick they dhould stay home. If they must go out then wear a properly fitted quality mask. In hospitals, doctors’ offices and such everyone should be masked. No mask in those settings and no care. Stay the hell awsy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 56 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: Enough is enough. If you want to wear a mask, then do it. This article stinks Wow, what a carefully reasoned well thought out rebuttal. Yes, it sure is stinky of the author to point out so many facts that people like you choose to pretend are not true. Really, why should you care about other people getting sick and dying, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 37 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Wow, what a carefully reasoned well thought out rebuttal. Yes, it sure is stinky of the author to point out so many facts that people like you choose to pretend are not true. Really, why should you care about other people getting sick and dying, right? Something does stink in this thread, but I assure you it's not you or me, or the inanimate and non-organic article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 56 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Wow, what a carefully reasoned well thought out rebuttal. Yes, it sure is stinky of the author to point out so many facts that people like you choose to pretend are not true. Really, why should you care about other people getting sick and dying, right? Please explain people like me…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Nope. If people are feeling sick they dhould stay home. If they must go out then wear a properly fitted quality mask. In hospitals, doctors’ offices and such everyone should be masked. No mask in those settings and no care. Stay the hell awsy! You’ve got to be doing this on purpose at this point Alf. Each time you respond to one of my posts here, its is a rambling about something not even being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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