VancouverHabitant Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 42 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said: Ya, lets take "ClownWorld" seriously, who sponsors them I wonder? Hey, they were the ones that posted that montage. Getting information from CNN on something that they're clearly biased on is indeed a clown world. You gotta admit it's pretty funny to see that clip of all the programing sponsored by Pfizer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Playoff Beered Posted May 3 Popular Post Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Hey, they were the ones that posted that montage. Getting information from CNN on something that they're clearly biased on is indeed a clown world. You gotta admit it's pretty funny to see that clip of all the programing sponsored by Pfizer. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thedestroyerofworlds Posted May 3 Popular Post Share Posted May 3 The anti-vaxx position is to downplay the role of vaccines and to play up the danger of vaccines. The downplay of vaccines is done by making the disease seem not that big of a deal and to then point out the ineffectiveness of vaccines. The playing up the dangers of vaccines to to make the vaccines seem to be poisonous in terms of what they are made of or how they work as well as to make their side effects seem more dangerous than they actually are. The dangers of anti-vaxx is that it is a hop skip and a jump to then creating conditions where easily preventable communicable diseases start having larger outbreaks. Think measles, mumps, polio. There is a very real chance that people who were duped by anti-vaxx rhetoric into "questioning the Covid vaccines" will fall down the anti-vaxx rabbit hole. Creating more of these morons. Also, the whole reason why "acquired immunity" was not and really should not be promoted is fairly simple. The words "chicken-pox party" should illustrate a very real public health catastrophe should "acquired immunity" had been adopted. Hell, there actually was a Covid party in Edson Alberta that resulted in multiple hospitalizations. There would have been numerous people who would have tried the same, especially when the sham treatments of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were being pushed, largely by the anti-vaxx crowd. Again, all in an attempt to downplay things. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverHabitant Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 40 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said: Pharma companies have been hit and paid out over 30 billion in fines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements Sure, go ahead and believe whatever someone tells you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 4 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Hey, they were the ones that posted that montage. Getting information from CNN on something that they're clearly biased on is indeed a clown world. You gotta admit it's pretty funny to see that clip of all the programing sponsored by Pfizer. https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/pfizer-wants-combat-anti-vaccine-misinformation-pharmaceutical-giant-still Quote The pharmaceutical company Pfizer is now trying its hand at online memes, posting a cartoonish tweet seeking to combat misinformation about the vaccines. But while the welcoming arms of science in the comic strip might be able to draw the human brain away from wild conspiracy theories, one problem remains: Pfizer is still bankrolling the “wild conspiracy theories,” via its position as a corporate sponsor of Fox News. According to Media Matters internal data, Pfizer has run at least 289 advertisements on Fox News this year, up through October 31 This is the problem with getting your news from tweets.....they only show you the parts that suits their narrative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Pharma companies have been hit and paid out over 30 billion in fines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements Sure, go ahead and believe whatever someone tells you The are numerous studies done regarding just about any medication and regarding just about any vaccine by independent researchers. Double and triple checking and more. So we really don't have to believe big Pharma. The data is more than adequate to indicate that the average Jane and Joe is safe regarding virtually every medication and every vaccine. Period. Also, pharmaceutical companies have their own fiscal reasons to ensure things are above board, or they would face even more fines and legal judgments. So if Pharmaceutical companies do a clinical trial involving tens of thousands of people in multiple locations across the nation, it's safe to say that their findings can be believed over some jagoff posts on Twitter. Edit: I'd like to add that as far as I can see, those settlements are mostly for "off label promotion", kick backs, and manufacturing issues. It looks like not one involves a vaccine. Nice try. Edited May 4 by thedestroyerofworlds 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) Vaccinated? It was nice knowing you! Edited May 23 by Playoff Beered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 4 hours ago, Playoff Beered said: Vaccinated? It was nice knowing you! Aw crap, I'm on borrowed time! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 45 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Aw crap, I'm on borrowed time! Evidently so are all the rest of the 5.5 billion people who have been vaxed. Apparently we have entered the world of "Idiocracy" where only the people from the far left side of the IQ bell curve will survive. One of the funniest ones I have heard was from a woman who stated that she can have no physical contact with vaxed people because the MRNA vaccines change the recipients' DNA so that she is now allergic to anybody who has been vaxed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) Luc died in Feb 2022- he was 89; and the family will not release the cause of death. That said it seems the whole "gonna die in 2 yrs" is a hoax. https://www.ibtimes.sg/all-vaccinated-people-will-die-uncured-2-years-says-noble-winning-virologist-heres-truth-57728 The hoax message circulating on social media reads: "Nobel Prize Winner Luc Montagnier has confirmed that there is no chance of survival for people who have received any form of the vaccine. In the shocking interview, the world's top virologist stated blankly: 'There is no hope and no possible treatment for those who have been vaccinated already. We must be prepared to incinerate the bodies." -------------------------------------------------------------- he fake claim started after a report was published in LifeSiteNews, a Canadian far-right anti-abortion advocacy and news publication. The article headlined "Nobel Prize winner: Mass COVID vaccination an 'unacceptable mistake' that is 'creating the variants', quoted the French virologist saying: "The new variants are a production and result from the vaccination. You see it in each country, it's the same: in every country deaths follow vaccination." Facebook has banned the website for spreading misinformation on COVID-19. Social Media Falls Prey to the Hoax Claim In its report, the outlet based its claim on an article published on the website of RAIR Foundation, a US-based NGO, along with including a video of Montagnier talking about the side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. Even though the virologist did speak about "antibody-dependent enhancement" he certainly did not say that vaccinated people will die within two years or there is no hope and no possible treatment for those who have been vaccinated already. note the date on the article- we are down to 3 days, if the 2 years thing was to occur. lol and that's 2 yrs from the article date, not 2 yrs since the dude allegedly said.....we are going to die. My cat is very smart, comparatively speaking. Edited May 23 by Gurn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Who or what the hell am I asking forgiveness from? I call the shots, silly songbird. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Oh man. It's been almost 2 years since my second shot. Plus, I got a booster. I better get my affairs in order. The millions who got their 1st shot in December of 2020 and their second shot in early 2021 are living on borrowed time. They've already passed the 2 years. The thousands who participated in the clinical trials, who received their 2nd shots in the early fall of 2020 must be shaking in their boots. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 13 hours ago, Playoff Beered said: Vaccinated? It was nice knowing you! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Meanwhile in China https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/china-braces-for-new-covid-19-wave-with-up-to-65-million-weekly-cases-16728131.htm China is facing a new wave of Covid-19 infections that could see as many as 65 million cases per week by the end of June. This alarming prediction was made by respiratory disease specialist Zhong Nanshan at a biotech conference in Guangzhou. Zhong’s estimate provides a rare glimpse into the potential impact of the latest omicron variant, XBB, which has been fueling a resurgence in cases across China since late April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Sanity prevailed. If you need an organ transplant, you will be required to have all your vaccinations up to date. That includes COVID vaccines. What a waste of money to be told the obvious. When you've drank the Flavor Aid, obvious things like this are hard to see. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/supreme-court-of-canada-won-t-hear-unvaccinated-woman-s-case-for-organ-donation-1.6432718 Supreme Court of Canada won't hear unvaccinated woman's case for organ donation OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada will not hear the appeal of an Alberta woman who was unwilling to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to get a life-saving organ transplant. Annette Lewis was diagnosed with a terminal disease in 2018 and was told she would not survive unless she received an organ transplant. She was placed on a transplant wait list in 2020, but was informed a year later she would need to get the COVID-19 vaccine to receive the organ. RELATED STORIES Alberta Court of Appeal dismisses unvaccinated woman's case for organ donation 'An ultimatum': Albertan claims her vaccine status is getting in the way of needed lung transplant Lewis said taking the vaccine would offend her conscience and argued the requirement violated her Charter rights to life, conscience, liberty and security of the person. "I ought to have the choice about what goes into my body, and a life-saving treatment cannot be denied to me because I chose not to take an experimental treatment for a condition — COVID-19 — which I do not have and which I may never have," Lewis said in an affidavit previously submitted to court. The case was dismissed by an Alberta court, which said the Charter has no application to clinical treatment decisions, in particular for doctors establishing preconditions for organ transplants. Justice Paul Belzil ruled that standard of care must be the same for all potential recipients or it could result in "medical chaos." The Alberta Court of Appeal upheld the decision, prompting Lewis's appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada. "Ms. Lewis is deeply disappointed that the Supreme Court of Canada decided not to hear her case," Allison Pejovic, Lewis's lawyer, said in a news release from the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms. "She had hoped that justice would prevail in the courts for herself and other unvaccinated transplant candidates across Canada." Pejovic said Lewis's constitutional challenge ends with the Supreme Court of Canada's dismissal but she will continue trying to get the life-saving surgery. Lewis recently filed a separate legal action against Alberta Health Services, an Alberta hospital and the transplant doctors. There is a publication ban on the doctors' identities, the organ involved and the location of the transplant program. Lewis is arguing negligence in the decision to remove her from the high-priority transplant list, saying it amounts to medical malpractice. The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms said Lewis will ask the court at an upcoming injunction hearing to grant an immediate reinstatement to the transplant list pending the result of the court action. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RUPERTKBD Posted June 9 Popular Post Share Posted June 9 12 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Sanity prevailed. If you need an organ transplant, you will be required to have all your vaccinations up to date. That includes COVID vaccines. What a waste of money to be told the obvious. When you've drank the Flavor Aid, obvious things like this are hard to see. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/supreme-court-of-canada-won-t-hear-unvaccinated-woman-s-case-for-organ-donation-1.6432718 Supreme Court of Canada won't hear unvaccinated woman's case for organ donation OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada will not hear the appeal of an Alberta woman who was unwilling to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to get a life-saving organ transplant. Annette Lewis was diagnosed with a terminal disease in 2018 and was told she would not survive unless she received an organ transplant. She was placed on a transplant wait list in 2020, but was informed a year later she would need to get the COVID-19 vaccine to receive the organ. RELATED STORIES Alberta Court of Appeal dismisses unvaccinated woman's case for organ donation 'An ultimatum': Albertan claims her vaccine status is getting in the way of needed lung transplant Lewis said taking the vaccine would offend her conscience and argued the requirement violated her Charter rights to life, conscience, liberty and security of the person. "I ought to have the choice about what goes into my body, and a life-saving treatment cannot be denied to me because I chose not to take an experimental treatment for a condition — COVID-19 — which I do not have and which I may never have," Lewis said in an affidavit previously submitted to court. The case was dismissed by an Alberta court, which said the Charter has no application to clinical treatment decisions, in particular for doctors establishing preconditions for organ transplants. Justice Paul Belzil ruled that standard of care must be the same for all potential recipients or it could result in "medical chaos." The Alberta Court of Appeal upheld the decision, prompting Lewis's appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada. "Ms. Lewis is deeply disappointed that the Supreme Court of Canada decided not to hear her case," Allison Pejovic, Lewis's lawyer, said in a news release from the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms. "She had hoped that justice would prevail in the courts for herself and other unvaccinated transplant candidates across Canada." Pejovic said Lewis's constitutional challenge ends with the Supreme Court of Canada's dismissal but she will continue trying to get the life-saving surgery. Lewis recently filed a separate legal action against Alberta Health Services, an Alberta hospital and the transplant doctors. There is a publication ban on the doctors' identities, the organ involved and the location of the transplant program. Lewis is arguing negligence in the decision to remove her from the high-priority transplant list, saying it amounts to medical malpractice. The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms said Lewis will ask the court at an upcoming injunction hearing to grant an immediate reinstatement to the transplant list pending the result of the court action. I'd say the transplant that she desperately needs is a brain.... 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 On 5/23/2023 at 1:00 PM, thedestroyerofworlds said: Oh man. It's been almost 2 years since my second shot. Plus, I got a booster. I better get my affairs in order. The millions who got their 1st shot in December of 2020 and their second shot in early 2021 are living on borrowed time. They've already passed the 2 years. The thousands who participated in the clinical trials, who received their 2nd shots in the early fall of 2020 must be shaking in their boots. My wife and I just got our 6 vaccination last month, the end is near. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 On 6/9/2023 at 8:10 AM, RUPERTKBD said: I'd say the transplant that she desperately needs is a brain.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Had my second Shingles vax yesterday morning; about 6 hour after the shot, up until about 20 minutes ago; I was foggy. A little discomfort, for a lot of protection, count me in. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, SniperSingh said: A couple of items to consider as I have not read this whole discussion. But firstly, the companies involved in the covid vaccine have no legal liability for adverse outcomes because the vaccine was approved under the emergency authorization act (in the USA), and I would suspect similar protections exist globally. Secondly, there was not a proper clinical study. As someone who's invested in alot of Biotech stocks, you cannot approve any medication as fast as they have, because clinical trials for vaccines and medications typically take up to ten years. In effect, any of us who took the vaccines were the 'test cohort'. Third, no independent parties reviewed these vaccines. They reviewed selective data from the pharma companies. If you aren't aware, there was a lawsuit in the USA to force Pfizer to release all of their test data, as they said they would release it in 55 years! One has to ask, why would they want to wait 55 years? I am not saying they have something to hide but is sure suggests as such! Pfizer lost and have been slowly dribbling out their data. If the vaccines where "reviewed" the data would have been out there so your view is incorrect, the courts had to force them to release post pandemic due to a lawsuit. I am not arguing either way, here, I am just providing some facts to consider. None of this was explained to us when we took the vaccines, we were told they were "safe". However, based on what is a typical process, there is no way they could have said they were safe, and if they were not and are not (long term) no one pays the price, other than those of us who took it. Awareness is key. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html As someone who is old and got a polio vaccine before it was "safe"....I am not worried one bit about the Covid Vaccines. Did you make an account here just to privide some "facts"? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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