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4 minutes ago, Down by the River said:

Roughly 50 +/- 10 means that on a given day cases are 20% higher or 20% lower than they were the day before. That is a fair bit of instability to suggest a relatively steady line.

 

EDIT: I'm not saying this is bad news, just that it is news that is difficult to interpret. 

 

not really, 17/18 days have been within that range so far. Thats pretty consistent and not a rapid increase. And its also a low number. 

 

Our number of very serious cases/million and deaths/million is also very low. 

 

Not trying to blow sunshine up anyones wazoo, just see cautious reason for optimism in the numbers. 

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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_British_Columbia

We are doing ok so far. You can't just look at total number of cases and get an idea of where we are at. Using Canada's numbers is a bit tainted, because Ontario and Quebec aren't doing as well. I think with a further push and stricter measures here in BC, we could actually start to see a decline. However, there is still far too many people out in parks, on the streets, and meeting for coffee (at a distance) at the beach. I fear there is too much complacency. I hope this trend holds or gets better though, but who knows. I choose to stay home to not be part of the problem.

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6 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

POS

 

U.S.-based company 3M said Friday that it has been asked by the Trump administration not to supply N95 respirators to Canada amid the novel coronavirus pandemic.

U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered the Minnesota-based company to produce and sell as many medical-grade masks as the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) says it needs. He invoked the Defence Production Act in order to speed up the distribution of masks.

“The administration also requested that 3M cease exporting respirators that we currently manufacture in the United States to the Canadian and Latin American markets,” a statement from the company read.

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/6772979/coronavirus-3m-n95-respirators-trump-canada/

I've said this before but at least **** has value in terms of being a good fertilizer.  Bone spurs is only good at finding another use for urine.:ph34r:

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Malaysia government tells women not to nag husbands amid coronvirus lockdown

Malaysia’s government has sparked outrage by telling women to avoid nagging their hubbies during the coronavirus lockdown.

 

A series of online posters with the hashtag #WomenPreventCOVID19 told residents how to behave while stuck at home — urging women to dress up nicely and wear makeup.

Wives were also told to avoid nagging their husbands — and to instead lighten the mood by mimicking the high-pitched voice of Doraemon, a blue anime robot cat popular across Asia.

Another poster depicts a man sitting on a sofa, telling women to refrain from being “sarcastic” if they need help with household chores.

 

The poster — uploaded on Facebook and Instagram — sparked outrage among women’s rights groups already alarmed at a domestic violence problem in the country.

“These posters promote the concept of gender inequality and perpetuate the concept of patriarchy,” said Nisha Sabanayagam, a manager at All Women’s Action Society, calling them “extremely condescending.”

 

“How did we go from preventing baby dumping, fighting domestic violence to some sad variant of the Obedient Wives Club?” Twitter user @yinshaoloong wrote.

Malaysia’s women’s affairs ministry eventually apologized for the outrage sparked.

 

“We apologize if some of the tips we shared were inappropriate and touched on the sensitivities of some parties,” the ministry’s women’s development department said in a statement.

Women’s groups have warned that lockdowns could see a rise in domestic violence, with women trapped with their abusers. Some governments have stepped up response, including in France, which offers hotel rooms to victims.

 

Malaysia is ranked 104th out of 153 countries in the latest World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap index, after scoring poorly on political empowerment and economic participation.

 

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The poster i question. :lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Malaysia government tells women not to nag husbands amid coronvirus lockdown

Malaysia’s government has sparked outrage by telling women to avoid nagging their hubbies during the coronavirus lockdown.

 

A series of online posters with the hashtag #WomenPreventCOVID19 told residents how to behave while stuck at home — urging women to dress up nicely and wear makeup.

Wives were also told to avoid nagging their husbands — and to instead lighten the mood by mimicking the high-pitched voice of Doraemon, a blue anime robot cat popular across Asia.

Another poster depicts a man sitting on a sofa, telling women to refrain from being “sarcastic” if they need help with household chores.

 

The poster — uploaded on Facebook and Instagram — sparked outrage among women’s rights groups already alarmed at a domestic violence problem in the country.

“These posters promote the concept of gender inequality and perpetuate the concept of patriarchy,” said Nisha Sabanayagam, a manager at All Women’s Action Society, calling them “extremely condescending.”

 

“How did we go from preventing baby dumping, fighting domestic violence to some sad variant of the Obedient Wives Club?” Twitter user @yinshaoloong wrote.

Malaysia’s women’s affairs ministry eventually apologized for the outrage sparked.

 

“We apologize if some of the tips we shared were inappropriate and touched on the sensitivities of some parties,” the ministry’s women’s development department said in a statement.

Women’s groups have warned that lockdowns could see a rise in domestic violence, with women trapped with their abusers. Some governments have stepped up response, including in France, which offers hotel rooms to victims.

 

Malaysia is ranked 104th out of 153 countries in the latest World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap index, after scoring poorly on political empowerment and economic participation.

 

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The poster i question. :lol:

 

Oh wow, I would NOT do well there.

 

This is ridiculous on so many levels.

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1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

i doubt that many would disagree, in fact we've heard the same argument being made about value-added over raw lumbers shipments for years....

 

The question is: who do we want to make this happen? The government? That's the dreaded "socialism". The government could "get involved" in a different manner, perhaps by offering tax incentives. But some people have a problem with that as well. "Big companies don't deserve handouts!", "If they can't make a go of it without taxpayer help, then they shouldn't do it!" etc, etc...

 

Ideally, the private sector would step up and do this. But they never seem to do so. Sure, there are barriers in place, as with most first world democracies, but the bottom line is profit. If there's money to be made, someone will step up and get it done....

 

....but one has to wonder how something like that would ever happen in Canada, when your competition in developing countries can pay it's workers $5.00 a day....

As always, it comes down to individual people.

 

People need to decide, en masse, that buying domestically made/grown products is in their own best interest as it gives their 'neighbour' jobs to in turn by products from their own company, pay taxes, pay fair wages to their employees etc, etc. It also encourages higher quality products that we in turn can export.

 

People need to stop the race to the bottom.

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1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said:

Cost is probably the biggest reason. It would be huge to have the facilities to make the items, so we would all have to pay more for "Canadian Made''. I would be all for it, a lot more jobs would be available, less people milking EI or Welfare

End product absolutely more money.

 

Long term gain potentially huge as to your point.

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7 minutes ago, aGENT said:

As always, it comes down to individual people.

 

People need to decide, en masse, that buying domestically made/grown products is in their own best interest as it gives their 'neighbour' jobs to in turn by products from their own company, pay taxes, pay fair wages to their employees etc, etc. It also encourages higher quality products that we in turn can export.

 

People need to stop the race to the bottom.

Thing is, it comes down to cheap (crap) that's almost all from China (dollar stores are a great example) or paying more for home made products that, often, are of a better standard/quality which accounts for the higher prices.  

 

I was a single mom on a tight budget and, truth be told, opted for the cheapest at times.  Had to.  But I'd rather go without after learning that some of the food products we were consuming were actually potentially dangerous.  Human hair used in soya sauce?  No thanks.  Was a wake up call...I'd expected that our standards for food were strictly followed...but it's obviously not the case.  Stuff slides through. 

Even baby toys with lead in them?!

 

It doesn't mean that all products are superior/inferior based on where they're made, but many are.  Food that we can grow here in some of the most fertile soil in the world should be a priority.  

 

I worked for a children's clothing company that was more expensive, but it was due to the process ... no harmful dyes...colour was actually extracted OUT of the fabric to make patterns.  Not prints that contained toxic chemicals.  

 

It's about awareness - taking time to read labels (I always do now) and learn what we are consuming and purchasing.  

 

It's tough to always find homegrown products but I now seek them out.  And will pay more for that peace of mind.

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1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

i doubt that many would disagree, in fact we've heard the same argument being made about value-added over raw lumbers shipments for years....

 

The question is: who do we want to make this happen? The government? That's the dreaded "socialism". The government could "get involved" in a different manner, perhaps by offering tax incentives. But some people have a problem with that as well. "Big companies don't deserve handouts!", "If they can't make a go of it without taxpayer help, then they shouldn't do it!" etc, etc...

 

Ideally, the private sector would step up and do this. But they never seem to do so. Sure, there are barriers in place, as with most first world democracies, but the bottom line is profit. If there's money to be made, someone will step up and get it done....

 

....but one has to wonder how something like that would ever happen in Canada, when your competition in developing countries can pay it's workers $5.00 a day....

Yea it's not easy for sure.

 

But we love our Canadian beer and pay more for it...yea I know American beer insert water joke here.

 

The point is there are examples of products we pay more for that exist today because they are better.

 

I think it can be done. Not sure how.

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18 minutes ago, aGENT said:

As always, it comes down to individual people.

 

People need to decide, en masse, that buying domestically made/grown products is in their own best interest as it gives their 'neighbour' jobs to in turn by products from their own company, pay taxes, pay fair wages to their employees etc, etc. It also encourages higher quality products that we in turn can export.

 

People need to stop the race to the bottom.

Easier said than done when half the country lives paycheque to paycheque.

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14 minutes ago, Chris12345 said:

Yea it's not easy for sure.

 

But we love our Canadian beer and pay more for it...yea I know American beer insert water joke here.

 

The point is there are examples of products we pay more for that exist today because they are better.

 

I think it can be done. Not sure how.

American microbreweries are great.  They're just not worth it when we have so much great local beer.  Definitely trying to avoid restaurant chains and get my takeout from local businesses.

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58 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:
1 hour ago, wloutet said:

"Freeland must be close to having a stroke. I do think she'll be able to navigate us through this but I might take up religion and start praying for Trump to have a heart attack."

 

Or start poking needles in a Trump doll" 

Who said this?

Why is it in quotation marks? 

Sorry, It was a quote off another posting. I'm an old fart, and I didn't know how (until now) to get a quote properly. I'll go and do 50 push ups!

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