EdgarM Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Just now, debluvscanucks said: Try a little harder to come up with something. Trump's more in the line of thinking of open'er up...good to go. That's not my stance. "You're". I was talking about your style of providing your side of an argument in a discussion. You do not know what to say so you go off on a tangent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, EdgarM said: There are "health and safety" rules that need to be followed and I am sure the Union will ensure these measures are in place and "safety equipment" is not the responsibility of the employee as part of employment. The employer will be responsible that all safety measures are put in place and this includes providing safety equipment to its employees. Yah right... have you ever worked a day in BC public education ? Clearly not. BCTF are you kidding me.. they are still recovering from the last 20 years of having the crap kicked out of them by various BC governments..... Edited May 16, 2020 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I was talking about your style of providing your side of an argument in a discussion. You do not know what to say so you go off on a tangent. Get back on topic? Or is this an example of "going off on a tangent"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said: Yah right... have you ever worked a day in BC public education ? Clearly, not. Haha I guess there Union is not very strong then. There are stringent Health and Safety rules that an employer MUST follow. If the Union is unable to hold them to them then I guess they have bigger problems then who is paying for hand sanitizer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Get back on topic? Or is this an example of "going off on a tangent"? Sorry Deb but your really starting to talk about nothing now time to stop. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Haha I guess there Union is not very strong then. There are stringent Health and Safety rules that an employer MUST follow. If the Union is unable to hold them to them then I guess they have bigger problems then who is paying for hand sanitizer. Yes the union has very little power nowdays. Teaching kids in class all day... working online with the other half of the class evenings and weekends... #BrokenBC I wonder how many BC teachers will develop the sniffles on June 1 ? Edited May 16, 2020 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 You're, Their, Than. . 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Sorry Deb but your really starting to talk about nothing now time to stop. Deb has been the voice of reason on this thread. People that have been taking this virus seriously and following social isolation properly... well they have saved so many lives of BC seniors and should be commended. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, stawns said: We won't be going back to normal classes unless the virus disappears or a vaccine is available. I imagine the current set up will be the "new normal" for at least 2 years if projections of getting a vaccine is 12-18 months. Kinda wishful thinking that the Virus will disappear. Drinking the Trump Kool-Aid? Lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, BPA said: Drinking the Trump Kool-Aid? Clorox flavoured package? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, BPA said: I imagine the current set up will be the "new normal" for at least 2 years if projections of getting a vaccine is 12-18 months. Kinda wishful thinking that the Virus will disappear. Drinking the Trump Kool-Aid? Lol. Just saying those are the only likely reasons for returning to full day, full student attendance. I wouldn't be surprised if they extended the school day a bit, to make up for 4 days a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Hopefully teachers are not asked to pay for and provide PPE to all students and themselves. Hopefully teachers are not asked to pay for hand sanititzer and soap for all their students Do nurses have to pay for PPE for their patients and buy hospital supplies from various stores to bring with them on their shifts ? Too bad Horgan did not promise increased budget for the need of higher levels of cleaning in the schools. My neighbours wifes school has no day time janitor since the cutbacks 10 years ago. Teachers clean up the puke or admin does..... Things need to really change in our BC schools. Clean and safe is long overdue. Fund the system properly BC Politicians.... #BrokenBC I agree with you King (someone slap me ) the cleaning of schools has been going down hill for years along with their wages and the day custodians were cut by the Liberals years ago. My wife was a custodian for over 20 years before she retired early because it just wasn’t worth what they were paying. That being said I have grandchildren in Alberta and the schools there are even worse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, spur1 said: I agree with you King (someone slap me ) the cleaning of schools has been going down hill for years along with their wages and the day custodians were cut by the Liberals years ago. My wife was a custodian for over 20 years before she retired early because it just wasn’t worth what they were paying A lot of hospitals have the same problem, low wages, high work load. Leads to a lot of employee turn over, not as many experienced staff. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, spur1 said: I agree with you King (someone slap me ) the cleaning of schools has been going down hill for years along with their wages and the day custodians were cut by the Liberals years ago. My wife was a custodian for over 20 years before she retired early because it just wasn’t worth what they were paying. That being said I have grandchildren in Alberta and the schools there are even worse. Our custodians come in to start their shift around 2 and work until 10. Admin is responsible for cleaning up "messes". Our school gets pretty messy and dirty through the course of the day, but always clean in the morning! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I believe the only ppe provided for staff is hand sanitizer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: You're, Their, Than. . Lol, dude you missed "morf" on the last page. What the hell is a morf? Yeah, I'm going to take this guys advice 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, stawns said: Our custodians come in to start their shift around 2 and work until 10. Admin is responsible for cleaning up "messes". Our school gets pretty messy and dirty through the course of the day, but always clean in the morning! Unless the custodian gets sick then they only replace half the time and the school just gets the gloss over. That is why some still go in sick because if they miss a couple days it takes a week or more to catch up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, stawns said: I believe the only ppe provided for staff is hand sanitizer Yah, probably paid for by the lowest paid teachers in Canada..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, gurn said: A lot of hospitals have the same problem, low wages, high work load. Leads to a lot of employee turn over, not as many experienced staff. One difference is hospital workers don't have to provide medical supplies to all their patients each day though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, spur1 said: Unless the custodian gets sick then they only replace half the time and the school just gets the gloss over. That is why some still go in sick because if they miss a couple days it takes a week or more to catch up. My daughters classroom has silver fish under the reading carpet... pretty much every day of the year. Schools in BC are now super dirty... can't see them getting cleaner after June 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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