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17 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

I noticed this was just glided over and not addressed although other posts were.

 

@ForsbergTheGreat ?
 

 

 

Does one death hold less value?  
 

There is DIRECT correlation with unemployment rate and suicides. Causation in one results causation in the other. why is a covid death more valuable than a suicide death. 
 

Incase people still don’t understand the point. It’s a double edge sword. Prevention of one results in the loss in the other. 
 

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3 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Lets take 100 people with compromised immune systems that have threat of death from suicide and 100 with a threat of death from covid.

 

There is still the possibility to save all those that face death from suicide

 

That possibility, with the limited amount we know about covid does not currently exist. 

Exactly right.  I'm not seeing the correlation.

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1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

 

Ireland deaths/1 million pop = 325

Netherlands deaths/1 million pop = 340

Belgium deaths/1 million pop = 801

UK deaths/1 million pop = 501

France deaths/1 million pop = 434

 

Those numbers don't tell much of a story, so many other variables are in play.  

 

 

 

As far as the Merrill lynch piece, that's one opinion,  The federal gov't, the Alberta provincial gov't and many others disagree and believe it's going to be years, if we ever get back to the way things were.  The company I consult for has a weekly call with these political parties as well as with Deloitte, discussing exactly this.  

 

Story isn't over yet though is it?  This just isn't a 'shot across the bow' against you but anybody who is doing their 'victory lap' before this "event" has moved on.

 

Game of Thrones was (imho) the greatest show on TV before it started to decline in later seasons & totally **** the bed in season 8.

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3 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Their classification of a "Covid" death is very different from pretty much every other country.

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/05/08/russia-is-boasting-about-low-coronavirus-deaths-the-numbers-are-deceiving-a70220

Interesting. 

I don't know what to make of it because I think we are calling more deaths covid related than may not be.

Maybe some middle ground has to be found. For example what are the average amount of deaths in Canada, or even exact numbers over the last few years from old age, flu, pneumonia, etc compared to this year? 

If the numbers fall short than I think we at least get some answers.

To much work to jump into for a Sunday though.

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15 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

I'm actually stunned with Russia. So many cases and so little deaths.

Russia has ALOT more windows than a third rate country like Canada......

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/three-russian-doctors-have-fallen-from-hospital-windows-in-two-weeks-amid-reports-of-dire-conditions/2020/05/06/c3ca73f4-8f88-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html

 

:P

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Just now, stawns said:

Pick a lane man

What's that supposed to mean? Believe everything without question? You can believe that the virus is real but also believe political party's are using it to smear the other side, like they always do in an election year. Only listen to experts? Ok, fine, not all of them are saying the same things though.

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6 minutes ago, stawns said:

Pick a lane man

This is a silly response. If that's why he dislikes her that's his opinion. I didn't realize she said that..my concern is he believes she has that authority. It's almost as ridiculous as when the health minister made threats towards losing civil liberties, again something out of her control.

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2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Interesting. 

I don't know what to make of it because I think we are calling more deaths covid related than may not be.

Maybe some middle ground has to be found. For example what are the average amount of deaths in Canada, or even exact numbers over the last few years from old age, flu, pneumonia, etc compared to this year? 

If the numbers fall short than I think we at least get some answers.

To much work to jump into for a Sunday though.

I believe most are using how deaths are attributed to the flu.  I nabbed this from the CDC site: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

 

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What are seasonal influenza-related deaths?

Seasonal influenza-related deaths are deaths that occur in people for whom influenza infection was likely a contributor to the cause of death, but not necessarily the primary cause of death.

And I'm fine with that.  Yes, other factors are at play, but, as you said, that's not a Sunday thing...probably not even something someone untrained in stats/health/etc could easily do.

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