Coronavirus outbreak

[NewbieCanuckFan]

1 hour ago, bishopshodan said:

Why do that?

Women are awesome. It's sucks to use a feminine version of his name as derogatory attack.

 

This is about as close to "literary wit" you're going to get from me (considering I"m a "half-wit" ):

 

 

[Sharpshooter]

3 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said:

He's a goof.

 

I apologize to all women.

As you should.
 

More importantly, remember this as you go forward in life;

 

Femininity/Female gender is not a weakness but a strength/position of strength equal to

masculinity/male gender. 

Never use one gender against the other to prove your point. You’ll lose all of the time. 

[Russ]

 

16 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said:

Kind of goes with yesterdays Washington Post article i read yesterday

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/coronavirus-may-never-go-away-even-with-a-vaccine/ar-BB14GnPd?ocid=msedgdhp

 

"There are already four endemic coronaviruses that circulate continuously, causing the common cold. And many experts think this virus will become the fifth — its effects growing milder as immunity spreads and our bodies adapt to it over time."

 

So essentially within a couple years it'll just become your common cold just like the previous 4 versions of Covid, I think we all sorta knew that, that it will eventually become tamed as our bodies get used to it, hopefully its sooner than later though.

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17 hours ago, EdgarM said:

I think what gets lost in a lot of this is that much of the population is "generalized" and grouped into one or the other of some sort. If a young person who has no persons that they associate with who is in a "risk group", why could they not try to live their life with some sort of normalcy? If they want to go to a beach, work or WHY. I can't see how someone would endanger their grandparents or their parents lives by going to a party and then go visit them. 

I have an elderly relative who I would not think about visiting until I can be sure I will not endanger his health. But does that mean I cannot socially distance visit other friends or relatives? 

Everyone's circumstance is different and this should be looked at before passing judgments on someone.

But you're missing the point in all of this.  It's not "passing judgement"...it's following public health guidelines and to ignore them is irresponsible and selfish.

 

You want to group people based on risk but the issue with this virus is those people can be asymptomatic and pass the virus around because they've chosen to do things they want to do.

 

If you choose socializing over elderly relatives, that's your deal but many of us understand that we don't have "forever" with those elderly loved ones and so we'd like to be able to see them at some point.   Your priorities aren't everyone's priorities and I think you need to respect that.

 

My Dad's battled cancer....been the best Dad I could ever ask for and has been there for me.  I need to be there for him so it's not a matter of "I wouldn't think about visiting until I can be sure".  I HAVE to be there for him as he's struggling/nearly bed ridden and I just don't know how much longer he'll be here.   I am doing everything in my power to protect him, including sanitizing before I go in, wearing a mask, social distancing from him.  But the other day I had to rearrange his bedroom furniture including his bed/mattress so he'd have more room with his walker and to reduce hazards...was tough wearing a mask while doing heavy physical labour. I hate wearing a mask...but it's not about just me.

 

I'd love to be able to go back to my gym but know that people who aren't taking this seriously will also likely share that space.  It's sad for those of us who also want to do normal things again but know it's best to pace ourselves and do it carefully.

So it's not about "passing judgement"....it's about wanting to minimize the spread of this thing so we ALL can get back to a more normal state.  Look at New Brunswick to see how one guy's actions puts others at risk.

 

It's a time to be selfless but some are thinking of self.  We're all desperate to get back to normal but have to follow social distancing and hand washing.  It's not really a big ask.
 

[Boudrias]

9 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

It seems like other cities / scientists have different info than the BC gov....

 

 

 

Half of new coronavirus infections in Washington are now occurring in people under the age of 40, a marked shift from earlier in the epidemic when more than two-thirds of those testing positive were in older age groups.

A new analysis finds that by early May, 39% of confirmed cases statewide were among people age 20 to 39, while those 19 and younger accounted for 11%.

The trend is concerning and should be kept in mind as more counties begin to ease restrictions and reopen businesses, said Seattle epidemiologist Judith Malmgren, who is affiliated with the University of Washington and is lead author of the report.

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/half-of-newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-cases-in-washington-are-in-people-under-40/

 

 

 

Interesting....    Seems like people are starting to clue in that Horgans plan is a sh... show....

 

https://www.theprogress.com/news/chilliwack-teachers-and-eas-concerned-with-health-and-safety-plans/

Yes, but are they dying from it? Would be good to know what the mortality rate is in that group. With isolation tiering back this is a group which will run the risk of being most exposed. 

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19 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

Yes, but are they dying from it? 

People who do die from it get it from others.  So that's a concern.

 

Also, the fact that the younger people are the ones who will likely be congregating at beaches, clubs, etc.  Meaning it'll spread like rapid fire as their guard is let down.  

Social distancing isn't scaling back but those who refuse to abide by it do risk being exposed and, by way of that, exposing others.  It all goes hand and hand and is why some who want to rush things to "get back to normal" should understand that it's just not an A to B jump.  That it'll be a transition and over time.

[Boudrias]

5 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

People who do die from it get it from others.  So that's a concern.

 

Also, the fact that the younger people are the ones who will likely be congregating at beaches, clubs, etc.  Meaning it'll spread like rapid fire as their guard is let down.  

Social distancing isn't scaling back but those who refuse to abide by it do risk being exposed and, by way of that, exposing others.  It all goes hand and hand and is why some who want to rush things to "get back to normal" should understand that it's just not an A to B jump.  That it'll be a transition and over time.

Stats are saying the infection rate is increasing as economies ramp up. Certainly the risk of exposure goes up. We have to remember that the testing volumes are also ramping up as well. Increased testing will give us a better idea of the extent as previously unidentified cases are found. To me it is about isolating the high risk area and increased testing to confirm. Not knowing when a vaccine will arrive, if it does, means we have to learn how to live with Covid.   

[kingofsurrey]

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• More than 200 schools in South Korea have been forced to close just days after they re-opened, due to a new spike in virus cases.
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Thousands of students had earlier on Wednesday returned to school as the country began easing virus restrictions.

But just a day later, 79 new cases were recorded, the highest daily figure in two months.

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1 hour ago, Boudrias said:

Stats are saying the infection rate is increasing as economies ramp up. Certainly the risk of exposure goes up. We have to remember that the testing volumes are also ramping up as well. Increased testing will give us a better idea of the extent as previously unidentified cases are found. To me it is about isolating the high risk area and increased testing to confirm. Not knowing when a vaccine will arrive, if it does, means we have to learn how to live with Covid.   

I agree with this...just not sure some will "learn to" live with it as much as they'll ignore it to live as they had/want.  I think that, for at least awhile, things should/will be different than the normal life we knew.  Over time it will fizzle out a bit (we hope) in respect to how volatile it can be but I just feel that some want to jump back in with both feet when we need to dip our toe in for awhile.  Resume "some" sense of normality knowing that we're one explosion away from having to take two steps backward.  I'd rather we take baby steps forward than a giant leap that does set us back.

I think most are on board....but some seem to be "over it" and just feel it's safe when, really, that very much depends on how safely we move forward from what I understand.

 

"The exposure rate goes up" but we have to protect against that in relation to the rate/how quickly it goes up with the social distancing in place.  We can't allow this thing to "go viral" because we're impatient.  Easing in and gradual steps...which seems to be what most understand.

[stawns]

2 hours ago, Boudrias said:

Yes, but are they dying from it? Would be good to know what the mortality rate is in that group. With isolation tiering back this is a group which will run the risk of being most exposed. 

Even if they aren't, theyre passing it to people who will.  

[wloutet]

2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

we don't have "forever" with those elderly loved ones

Good line Deb. By the time I got into genealogy, I was in my late forties. My parents had been older, and my grandparents had gone. I had a ton of old photographs, and a lot of questions that I had for my grandparents. Sigh... I wish they were here to answer them, but we appreciate them far too late in life.

[stawns]

1 hour ago, Boudrias said:

Stats are saying the infection rate is increasing as economies ramp up. Certainly the risk of exposure goes up. We have to remember that the testing volumes are also ramping up as well. Increased testing will give us a better idea of the extent as previously unidentified cases are found. To me it is about isolating the high risk area and increased testing to confirm. Not knowing when a vaccine will arrive, if it does, means we have to learn how to live with Covid.   

Yeah, well I'm not ok with large numbers of dead people because we decide to "live with it".

[stawns]

On 5/26/2020 at 8:33 PM, BPA said:

7 kids in one class room with 1 teacher for 4 hrs.  I think it should be somewhat easy for the teachers to manage social distancing using X or chairs or placemats.  Teachers would need to be a bit more stricter to maintain the 6ft social distancing of the younger ones.

 

This trial run will help staff decide the September class placements, # of students, staggering of times, etc.  And help teacher plan the curriculum for the next school year as well.

 

Unless you want the schools to throw a hail mary in September (when all kids will be coming back to school) and hope everything works out as planned.

I assure you it won't.  For the young kids, our directive is to try and stop them from touching each other as we won't be able to maintain social distance.  Playground equipment will not be cleaned.

[Chicken.]

49 minutes ago, stawns said:

I assure you it won't.  For the young kids, our directive is to try and stop them from touching each other as we won't be able to maintain social distance.  Playground equipment will not be cleaned.

I heard that playgrounds in the tri-cities are opening up next week anyway. For sure they will not be able to clean them all regularly. Go ham children!

 

https://www.tricitynews.com/news/playgrounds-to-re-open-across-coquitlam-port-moody-and-port-coquitlam-1.24142712 

 

Playgrounds to re-open across Coquitlam, Port Moody and Port Coquitlam

The move comes more than two months after they were shut during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic and less than 10 days into the phase two reopening of B.C.'s economy. Several other municipalities across Metro Vancouver are following suit 

[Me_]

Monkeys steal coronavirus blood samples in India

[Me_]

Immediate families could soon cross U.S. border: PM

[Me_]

3 hours ago, Boudrias said:

Stats are saying the infection rate is increasing as economies ramp up. Certainly the risk of exposure goes up. We have to remember that the testing volumes are also ramping up as well. Increased testing will give us a better idea of the extent as previously unidentified cases are found. To me it is about isolating the high risk area and increased testing to confirm. Not knowing when a vaccine will arrive, if it does, means we have to learn how to live with Covid.   

I like the postal code strategy.

 

Edited May 29, 2020 by Me_

[Chicken.]

my man.... Mayor Stewart. Great message. 

#SUPPORTLOCAL

 

 

 

[kingofsurrey]

Horgan lost the plot.....  Will it cost BC seniors lives ?

 

More than 40 COVID-19 cases identified in Quebec schools since reopening

 

Health officials have identified 19 cases among students and 22 among staff since primary schools reopened outside Montreal on May 11. 

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-more-than-40-covid-19-cases-identified-in-quebec-schools-since/

[NewbieCanuckFan]

Sometimes a little levity is good for the soul....