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37 minutes ago, Russ said:

 

Some districts will pay out a percentage of remaining sick days when teachers retire but yea most don't.  My dad retired from teaching with over a full year of sick days left, only took time off if we got sick as kids and needed him and that was probably a handful of times over his career. 

I know a guy in his 70s with almost a year worth of sick leave (not a teacher but belonged to a union).  He got hip replacement surgery.   Was out for 9 months (on sick leave).  Came back for 1 month then retired.

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On 6/10/2020 at 8:14 PM, kingofsurrey said:

Doctor Bonnie

 

Sells out the school kids of BC and uses them as test projects for covid spread with children.  Providing kids and school staff. ZERO PPE for their safety....

Sells out the province by OK ing. NHL hockey players and familys to "Group Quarantine" here in Vancouver. 

I love hockey but it just isn't worth it to give billionaire owners  a few extra millions....    Just shut it down and do it right in 2021.

 

Has Dr. Bonnie lost the plot after such a  fantastic start ?

man you are a piece of work

tell me if you can how many community cases actually are active and exist to pose a risk

come on .. you are a sensationalist

 

bc and dr. henry have done a great job

your personal views (and agenda) notwithstanding

do you understand anything about balance in risk management ?

kids are harmed by not being in school

risk has to be real to prevent a return

 

do you plan to stay isolated for another 3 months? have you been totally isolated?

or do you just want others to behave that way?

or do you just prefer to live your life from sort of perspective of fear?

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8 minutes ago, BPA said:

I know a guy in his 70s with almost a year worth of sick leave (not a teacher but belonged to a union).  He got hip replacement surgery.   Was out for 9 months (on sick leave).  Came back for 1 month then retired.

Sick leave is probably a bargained for benefit.  So most likely employees took sick days  in exchange for  less  / or  no wage increase . 

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49 minutes ago, Russ said:

 

Some districts will pay out a percentage of remaining sick days when teachers retire but yea most don't.  My dad retired from teaching with over a full year of sick days left, only took time off if we got sick as kids and needed him and that was probably a handful of times over his career. 

I think that clause has been grandfathered out almost everywhere.  Sucks for me, I have about 2/3rds of a year in sick days and am only 40.  Heh, I kinda regret only taking 2 weeks off for ACL surgery.

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10 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

I think that clause has been grandfathered out almost everywhere.  Sucks for me, I have about 2/3rds of a year in sick days and am only 40.  Heh, I kinda regret only taking 2 weeks off for ACL surgery.

Yah sucks for you... but still good as insurance in case you have some bad luck ....

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On 6/11/2020 at 12:56 PM, kingofsurrey said:

BC schools have less than 30% of students attending.  BC university's move to only online classes.

BC Hospital have massive back logs of surgery and procedures..

Record number of people dying right now on our streets with the drug crisis going on....

 

Solution

 

Horgan thinks hockey players are an essential services and lets put our resources into hockey during the summer....

more nonsense from you

how are these issues all connected ?

 

hockey players are not essential

they will bubble isolate as a group

the restrictions are meaningful and will ensure health

you just don't want them? why ?  what is wrong with hockey ?

 

record number of people are dying on the streets

have you read dr. henry's report and recommendations on how to better manage this crisis

do you know parts of it are already being implemented

this is done through a method of defunding the police

the police are no longer funded to enforce certain minor drug possession offenses

and police are not permitted to attend overdose reports

to ensure no one is afraid to report an overdose where drugs may be present

 

you make a lot of noise on here

wish you posted a bit of wisdom as well

you are no rookie

but you behave like a spoiled one sometimes

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On 6/11/2020 at 3:26 PM, debluvscanucks said:

I don't believe that to be the case.

 

I've heard they'll be contained to their hotel, designated restaurants/spots, etc.  Not just free to roam...but I could be wrong.

not true

 

the government cannot impose those restrictions

they can impose quarantine

and modify it so it is a bubble group thing

but once quarantine is serve

and they demonstrate they are healthy they are just like you or i or anyone else in bc

people are free

the government has no cause or right to restrict any further

 

the nhl however

could bargain additional restrictions

and will be negotiating these details with the players

prior to any games being played

i suspect the league will want a bit more comfort about health matters

the biggest issue will be player families

 

dr. henry seems to want teams to bring groups of less then 50 per team

the nhl would want something similar

but most can understand why players might want their young kids with them

for me, when my daughter was young, i would not agree to anything that interfered with almost daily repeated contact

so i would support players with young children bringing their families

i guess we will see the terms of any agreement reached in the next month or so

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On 6/11/2020 at 4:22 PM, Me_ said:

The whole of Hastings should be cleared.

 

As in humane as it sounds, the humanity of care and relocation is better.

 

There should be a serious program concerning the matter. It is alarming to see.

really ?

cleared to where?

do you realize all the support services are there?

you wanna move people to areas where they are no supports ?

 

i don't understand at all the knee jerk reaction posts

put some thought into this stuff

it is complex and really does warrant some simplistic approach

 

better yet

read dr. henry's report on this issue

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On 6/11/2020 at 8:31 PM, gurn said:

Every so often, you surprise me. This post just balanced out 10 of your incessant Dr. Bonnie is doing it wrong posts.

Keep it up and I'll start getting sad you are ignoring me. 

and you do not surprise me

9/10 of your posts or other responses are decent or better

i notice and appreciate your presence on these boards

thanks

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6 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

really ?

cleared to where?

do you realize all the support services are there?

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Why is hastings the [primary  support area in BC -  most of the people there are from other parts of BC.

 

Clearly, we need to offer affordable housing / flex housing for addicts  and available mental health services all ACROSS BC.   Stop encouraging all of BC addicts to gravitate to DTES> 

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On 6/11/2020 at 9:20 PM, Tortorella's Rant said:

Give crack heads free drugs and places to shoot up expect them to die. At the minimum OD. Never a mention of the mental toll it takes on the first responders reviving these dead beats. 

your compassion and understanding

of the plight of some of the most vulnerable people in society is outstanding

do you know any of these people?

most have parents, kids, siblings, friends, trauma in their lives.. . and other good stuff

 

but yeah

dead beats

cool

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22 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

really ?

cleared to where?

do you realize all the support services are there?

you wanna move people to areas where they are no supports ?

 

i don't understand at all the knee jerk reaction posts

put some thought into this stuff

it is complex and really does warrant some simplistic approach

 

better yet

read dr. henry's report on this issue

Support included of course. 
A more humane, 1st world country way than tent city.

 

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On 6/12/2020 at 12:02 PM, Kanukfanatic said:

Since January, on average about 16,250 people have died from all causes in British Columbia (3000-3500 per month on average).

 

167, or 1% has been from covid.

 

Media needs to quit fear mongering and politicians need some common sense. Unfortunately, that turd trudeau will destroy Canada before this is all done.

that is because bc has done a good job

you do understand that without proper management

the virus could do real real harm

it's not been a declared a pandemic to manipulate you or anyone else

why do you spout nonsense suggesting that

do you understand medicine?

do you understand the dangers of new viruses for which there are no vaccines or antiboides in populations

do you read history ?

try researching a little about the 1917 spanish flu

do you have grand parents?

elderly people in your life?  they are at high risk to serious consequences from this virus should they get infected

 

but you are just a stats guy ?

seems a bit of a sterile approach to life

but that is just me

 

common sense?

why don't you move to quebec

and follow the sense they have used regarding this virus

 

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8 minutes ago, Me_ said:

Support included of course. 
A more humane, 1st world country way than tent city.

 

there is no tent city

it is gone

i think you lack details on this issue

and prefer to address is broad and a rather unthinking manner

 

i get it, it's not important enough to invest the necessary time

but then please, don't post on this topic

 

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So far no infections in schools....   maybe because so few middles/ highschool kids went back.. only 16% of them are attending...

Only been back for 2 weeks so far with another 2 weeks to go.....

 

 

 

 

Sixteen people under the age of 19 in BC have tested positive for COVID-19 since June 1, but none of those cases has been from the school system

 

\https://globalnews.ca/news/7069342/no-covid-19-cases-bc-schools/

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On 6/13/2020 at 6:27 PM, Dr. Crossbar said:

It's just not sitting well with me. I'm not sure how health officials can continue to say outdoor events are a health risk to public safety if people keep gathering in the hundreds/thousands to protest with no significant spikes in cases. 

it's about priorities really

protesting social injustice is a tad more important from a social perspective

then most other outdoor social gatherings

should we risk our health to attend a large group to watch a concert..

probably not

but addressing systemic racism

might warrant some health risk

as doing nothing creates ongoing risk to those being treated unjustly

(particularly when those groups seem to be at higher risk in relation to the virus)

 

human life is messy

hard to be pure about anything

protests are a grey area that everyone should be free to choose about

i applaud those who protest as well as those who stay home

both care a lot about the best interests of society

cheers

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4 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

there is no tent city

it is gone

i think you lack details on this issue

and prefer to address is broad and a rather unthinking manner

 

i get it, it's not important enough to invest the necessary time

but then please, don't post on this topic

 

The one along Hastings? Great. Weren’t they put in a hotel? 
 

The one in Winnipeg is still there along the Red River.

 

There are a few tent cities in Toronto. They’re growing...

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2 minutes ago, Me_ said:

The one along Hastings? Great. Weren’t they put in a hotel? 
 

The one in Winnipeg is still there along the Red River.

 

There are a few tent cities in Toronto. They’re growing...

well i'm in bc

we were talking about bc

 

there are tent cities in many parts of the world

they often have variable reasons for existing

often they are poverty based

central and latin america have significant populations who permanently camp

 

but this seems to be distraction from the discussion about drug users staying in tent cities in vancouver

dr. b and the government have cleared them due to virus concerns

and you suggested they be moved, with their support systems, to somewhere else

kinda like uprooting and moving a ghetto

why?

to move them out of sight?

why ?

you have discomfort with what you see?

 

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14 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

there is no tent city

it is gone

i think you lack details on this issue

and prefer to address is broad and a rather unthinking manner

 

i get it, it's not important enough to invest the necessary time

but then please, don't post on this topic

 

Wow more nonsense from you.   80 homeless campers  kicked out of their camp just yesterday in CRAB park van.  .....

 

Homeless live in tents all across DTES and actually now in pretty much every city in BC.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/homeless-campers-move-1.5613306

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