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But the hysteria around the virus in this province is nauseating. The virus is here, will continue to come here, and it's going to ramp up when the border does officially open because that will have to happen one day soon. The goal was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed, and now it appears the goal is to get the number of cases to zero. New Zealand proved that the second you open the border and allow travel the numbers are going to go up. Given our proximity to WA and AB it seems likely to me we could be right back where we were in March. So either you keep everything locked down and hide behind plastic screens and this and that and strangle small businesses to death and wait for a vaccine which many are going to refuse until they get sick, and even then may refuse it still, or you open the doors ultimately, eventually, and let whatever happens happen. 

 

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36 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

But the hysteria around the virus in this province is nauseating. The virus is here, will continue to come here, and it's going to ramp up when the border does officially open because that will have to happen one day soon. The goal was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed, and now it appears the goal is to get the number of cases to zero. New Zealand proved that the second you open the border and allow travel the numbers are going to go up. Given our proximity to WA and AB it seems likely to me we could be right back where we were in March. So either you keep everything locked down and hide behind plastic screens and this and that and strangle small businesses to death and wait for a vaccine which many are going to refuse until they get sick, and even then may refuse it still, or you open the doors ultimately, eventually, and let whatever happens happen. 

 

I don't see anyone saying we shouldn't slowly open up.  What is leading you to think that?

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2 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

But the hysteria around the virus in this province is nauseating. The virus is here, will continue to come here, and it's going to ramp up when the border does officially open because that will have to happen one day soon. The goal was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed, and now it appears the goal is to get the number of cases to zero. New Zealand proved that the second you open the border and allow travel the numbers are going to go up. Given our proximity to WA and AB it seems likely to me we could be right back where we were in March. So either you keep everything locked down and hide behind plastic screens and this and that and strangle small businesses to death and wait for a vaccine which many are going to refuse until they get sick, and even then may refuse it still, or you open the doors ultimately, eventually, and let whatever happens happen. 

 

Vaccines don’t work if you already have the disease.

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6 hours ago, Me_ said:

Actually, BC is a world example on Covid.

 

So imagine everyone else is worse.

And there you have it.


It is, I agree. 
 

However, we will undoubtedly face a second wave. 
 

I think the point of having our govt answer hard questions about their planning, for it, and trying to mitigate it right now based on this new uptick and those 2 outbreaks, is a legitimate point to make. Also, why not release the name of the restaurant that had an outbreak. It’s a matter of public safety. 

 

3 hours ago, D-Money said:

Vaccines don’t work if you already have the disease.

Having the disease still can mean that you are able to be reinfected. The immunity from what I’ve read/seen isn’t long lasting. Everyone will need to be vaccinated. This will be the new vaccination/booster regimen as it is for measles/mumps/rubella/typhoid/etc for humanity going forward.  

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Researchers at the University of Guelph studying the impact of the COVID-19 caseload on the medical system in Canada have found the number of new cases continue to climb among people under the age of 20 in Ontario.

Ed McBean, a professor and the lead researcher, said as of mid-May, infection curves were flattening for other age groups in the province but numbers of daily new cases for people under 20 were still rising, especially in the Toronto and Peel regions.

"It was very surprising — a significant increase. They are not the biggest caseload at this point, but they are increasing at the highest rate," McBean told CBC News on Monday. "This was very unusual, especially given that daycares and schools are closed."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/increase-new-covid-19-cases-under-20s-ontario-toronto-peel-1.5612526

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49 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Researchers at the University of Guelph studying the impact of the COVID-19 caseload on the medical system in Canada have found the number of new cases continue to climb among people under the age of 20 in Ontario.

Ed McBean, a professor and the lead researcher, said as of mid-May, infection curves were flattening for other age groups in the province but numbers of daily new cases for people under 20 were still rising, especially in the Toronto and Peel regions.

"It was very surprising — a significant increase. They are not the biggest caseload at this point, but they are increasing at the highest rate," McBean told CBC News on Monday. "This was very unusual, especially given that daycares and schools are closed."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/increase-new-covid-19-cases-under-20s-ontario-toronto-peel-1.5612526

Anyone who’s  been that age shouldn’t be too surprised... invincibility and all - and I know from my kids that they know it likely won’t kill them so aren’t that concerned about getting it as much as they are about giving it to their parents and grandparents (and being that age might not be too worried about that either).    As soon as they were allowed out plans were made .... can’t really blame them either / as a middle aged person time goes a lot quicker and can imagine how a couple months for kids and teenagers and folks in their early 20’s handled the isolation.   BC hasn’t really had many cases comparatively either.   A drop in the bucket or just a couple weeks compared to other places...wonder how much geography has to do with that. 

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Don't know how much anyone can trust the CCP, but China does have issues with their food supply such as hygiene.  take this for what you will.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-seafood-idUSKBN23P20T?utm_source=reddit.com

China finds heavy coronavirus traces in seafood, meat sections of Beijing food market

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12 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Don't know how much anyone can trust the CCP, but China does have issues with their food supply such as hygiene.  take this for what you will.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-seafood-idUSKBN23P20T?utm_source=reddit.com

China finds heavy coronavirus traces in seafood, meat sections of Beijing food market

No one can trust the CCP. They’re as devious as it gets. 

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Sounds about right. I'm feeling more comfortable each passing day. Gotta keep it up though.

 

My dentist appt. yesterday was quite the experience it felt like I was in a surgical room with all the PPE

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/big-majority-approves-of-b-c-s-plan-to-reopen-economy/ar-BB15GfH9?ocid=msedgntp

 

Public support for the B.C. government’s plans to reopen the province has grown to 70 per cent, according to a poll conducted for Postmedia News.

The provincewide poll found that 25 per cent are very comfortable and 44 per cent somewhat comfortable with B.C.’s restart plan — an increase from 49 per cent at the end of May.

Big majority approves of B.C.'s plan to reopen economy

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40 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

Sounds about right. I'm feeling more comfortable each passing day. Gotta keep it up though.

 

My dentist appt. yesterday was quite the experience it felt like I was in a surgical room with all the PPE

 

Haha, 

My bro-in-law is a dentist and a few other family members work at the clinic.

I know it's doing what's right but they look ridiculous in their get ups.

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1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

Whoa. Whats up with these meat processing plants?

 

At least 657 people test positive for COVID-19 at German slaughterhouse

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/at-least-657-people-test-positive-for-covid-19-at-german-slaughterhouse-1.4989450

Isn't it enough that they bombed Pearl Harbour?

 

 

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