Coronavirus outbreak

[higgyfan]

2 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Of course , but the threat of enforcement is also powerful in altering peoples behaviours.. 

Ticketing  / fining companies when employees are not following regulations would be useful. 

 

So much infection from USA meatpacking  industry.... Where was the enforcement ?   So sad to see those workers making minimum wages working under very unsafe working conditions.

 

 

USA is just a messed up place....

 

As California began to rapidly reopen the economy, officials in Santa Cruz County decided the safe thing to do was keep its landmark beaches largely closed in the afternoons to prevent crowds that could spread the coronavirus.

 

But the public increasingly ignored the rules and demanded their summer on the sand, swimming, sunbathing and just hanging out. Unable to stop the crowds, county officials simply gave up.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-03/how-california-went-from-coronavirus-success-story-to-sitting-on-the-precipice-of-disaster

 

There are so many variables to the nightmare that is going on south of the border.  I see no comparison to how the pandemic is being handled in BC in any way.  After all...Ca has 8X the population of BC. 

 

Ca opened up way to early and now they are suffering the consequence.

[Russ]

24 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

There are so many variables to the nightmare that is going on south of the border.  I see no comparison to how the pandemic is being handled in BC in any way.  After all...Ca has 8X the population of BC. 

 

Ca opened up way to early and now they are suffering the consequence.

Exactly.  You can't compare BC to many places because look at how our numbers are doing.  They have done things in a smart way, yea theres still some inherit risk each time you go out but as you said when there are less than 20 cases a day being confirmed and only 2 ICU beds, I have no reason NOT to trust what Bonnie has told us to do.  The fact some places are making masks mandatory and in BC we aren't because we have actually stabalized our numbers to an extent is a good thing.  I don't fear going to the park, to the river, to the trails, to the store, etc.  If I was in the USA where those numbers are crazy in some places then I would have a much different opinion on the virus and health officials but Bonnie and Horgan have done a great job so far, I can't fault them at all for anything they say and do, if they say its safe to do x y and z, then I will believe them that its safe to do x y and z until it goes completely sideways and I loose faith in them.

[thedestroyerofworlds]

 

 

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/07/03/comedians-bryan-callen-brendan-schaub-test-positive-for-covid-19-after-san-antonio-show/

Comedians Bryan Callen, Brendan Schaub test positive for COVID-19 after San Antonio show

'If you fist-bumped me... or took a picture with me after the show, go get tested.'

[UnkNuk]

A song for the times:

 

 

[DeNiro]

4 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Of course , but the threat of enforcement is also powerful in altering peoples behaviours.. 

Ticketing  / fining companies when employees are not following regulations would be useful. 

 

So much infection from USA meatpacking  industry.... Where was the enforcement ?   So sad to see those workers making minimum wages working under very unsafe working conditions.

 

 

USA is just a messed up place....

 

As California began to rapidly reopen the economy, officials in Santa Cruz County decided the safe thing to do was keep its landmark beaches largely closed in the afternoons to prevent crowds that could spread the coronavirus.

 

But the public increasingly ignored the rules and demanded their summer on the sand, swimming, sunbathing and just hanging out. Unable to stop the crowds, county officials simply gave up.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-03/how-california-went-from-coronavirus-success-story-to-sitting-on-the-precipice-of-disaster

 

They take the saying “give me liberty or give me death” quite literally down there.

 

You could tell them there’s radioactive man eating sharks in the water and they would still go in for swim in the name of freedom.

 

Just a bizarre idea of what it means to be a citizen down there.
 

Edited July 4, 2020 by DeNiro

[Wilbur]

1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

They take the saying “give me liberty or give me death” quite literally down there.

 

You could tell them there’s radioactive man eating sharks in the water and they would still go in for swim in the name of freedom.

 

Just a bizarre idea of what it means to be a citizen down there.
 

Dude, the way 2020 is going, I think you just jinxed it.

[coho8888]

3 hours ago, higgyfan said:

There are so many variables to the nightmare that is going on south of the border.  I see no comparison to how the pandemic is being handled in BC in any way.  After all...Ca has 8X the population of BC. 

 

Ca opened up way to early and now they are suffering the consequence.

California opened up just as their curve was going down and when they did it seemed like they didn't do it slowly going back to the way it was before.  Their initial lockdown was more restrictive than ours.  We had a much more milder lockdown, waited till the curve was completely flattened and then opened things up slowly.  There wasn't the huge swing in rules and restrictions.  I think that's the key.  Its like trying to lose weight.  California went with a crash diet and now they are gaining their weight back.  We went with a slower life style change of weight loss and maintenance.

 

[skolozsy2]

2 hours ago, DeNiro said:

They take the saying “give me liberty or give me death” quite literally down there.

 

You could tell them there’s radioactive man eating sharks in the water and they would still go in for swim in the name of freedom.

 

Just a bizarre idea of what it means to be a citizen down there.
 

I wish I knew what exactly it is....defiance, selfishness, a natural rebellious attitude?...it just seems like the minute you tell some people here they can't do something, they insist on doing it.  Even if its for their own protection.  Normally, I couldn't give a hoot...if some idiot insists on dying in a car accident because he refuses to wear his seat belt as the law requires, well all the more power to him, hopefully he's the only that suffers.  But when that idiot insists on not wearing a mask or practicing social distancing as required, he's now risking everyone else's safety too.  This is the part that concerns me.  The total disregard for their fellow American's health.

 

I swear I'm watching the movie Idiocracy begin to be played out....dumb parents having dumb kids, who, in turn, have even dumber kids...and so on and so on.  In a few generations, the average American will closely resemble the figure standing third from the left on the evolutionary chart....basically an ape with opposable thumbs.   And thats only if we actually survive Covid. 

[Scottish⑦Canuck]

Scotland has almost eliminated it, but it's impossible for us to entirely due to the moronic actions of the government to the South. 

 

It's not a dig at the English people, but the spread is inevitable when they'll visit later this month. Pubs opened down there at 6am today. 6am. During a pandemic. 

[CBH1926]

Closed borders are for plebs only!
 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/us-billionaires-superyacht-arrives-in-bc-for-necessary-repairs-amid-covid-19/ar-BB16ji7o?li=AAggNb9

Edited July 4, 2020 by CBH1926

[chon derry]

30 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Closed borders are for plebs only!
 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/us-billionaires-superyacht-arrives-in-bc-for-necessary-repairs-amid-covid-19/ar-BB16ji7o?li=AAggNb9

Mr Washington would be here most of the time any way , the owns allied ship yards , ship yards in Victoria , yates towing , seaspan  towing(huge) up and down the coast of bc , his companies are currently refurbishing 4 submarines , 12 Canadian  navy frigates and will complete 17  coast guard vessels. his companies would rank him 2nd on canada's west coast behind smit marine which is a global corp. seaspan tows huge barges of waste by products (sawdust) and larger chips used in chip board manufacturing.              prince rupert to nanaimo     prince rupert to Vancouver , the shipping of these commodities goes every day. this is not just some rich tourist.                                                         https://www.seaspan.com/seaspan-shipyards-current-programs

[Gurn]

Dennis also does the repairs on many B.C. ferries. Formed a subsidiary company that built the fast cats; then bought those ships for pennies on the dollar, when the Liberals sold them off as a publicity stunt.

[chon derry]

2 minutes ago, gurn said:

Dennis also does the repairs on many B.C. ferries. Formed a subsidiary company that built the fast cats; then bought those ships for pennies on the dollar, when the Liberals sold them off as a publicity stunt.

he's definitely got  his hands on the whole coast , everything that happens in Vancouver harbour , he's got his finger prints all over it.

[chon derry]

the bigger problem  with americans plying the coast would be the hundreds of small yachts ,sail boats,  cabin cruisers , kayaks, from  California  ,oregon , washington ,traveling to Alaska  and Albertans inundating the coast over the last 2 months. going pretty much unchecked . just another summer it  seems.  as well Alaska ferry terminal here in rupert is going full tilt ,  americans traveling thru bc to get to the ferry term here,

Edited July 4, 2020 by chon derry

[bishopshodan]

More and more I hear people saying stuff like ' we will have to live with it, were all going to get it at some point, more people will die from the economy falling"

 

We're slipping into a society that doesn't care about our most vulnerable and may go even further to a society that doesn't care about their neighbours if they get in the way of getting back to so called normal.

 

I don't want to live in that society. Will it one day be like Logan's Run? we will only keep the optimal people at the optimal age?

 

[RUPERTKBD]

8 hours ago, Scottish⑦Canuck said:

Scotland has almost eliminated it, but it's impossible for us to entirely due to the moronic actions of the government to the South. 

 

It's not a dig at the English people, but the spread is inevitable when they'll visit later this month. Pubs opened down there at 6am today. 6am. During a pandemic. 

Believe me SC.....we know exactly what you mean.....

[Canorth]

55 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

More and more I hear people saying stuff like ' we will have to live with it, were all going to get it at some point, more people will die from the economy falling"

 

We're slipping into a society that doesn't care about our most vulnerable and may go even further to a society that doesn't care about their neighbours if they get in the way of getting back to so called normal.

 

I don't want to live in that society. Will it one day be like Logan's Run? we will only keep the optimal people at the optimal age?

 

I think it’s been like that for a while now. It’s just much more exposed at the moment. 

[coho8888]

5 hours ago, chon derry said:

the bigger problem  with americans plying the coast would be the hundreds of small yachts ,sail boats,  cabin cruisers , kayaks, from  California  ,oregon , washington ,traveling to Alaska  and Albertans inundating the coast over the last 2 months. going pretty much unchecked . just another summer it  seems.  as well Alaska ferry terminal here in rupert is going full tilt ,  americans traveling thru bc to get to the ferry term here,

to be honest, im surprised that Alaska is allowing any non residents to vacation up there right now.  Being as isolated as they are, their infection rates are quite low.  I know they value tourism but man, too much of a risk allowing Washingtonians or Oregonians much less Texans to enter.

[Wilbur]

1 minute ago, coho8888 said:

to be honest, im surprised that Alaska is allowing any non residents to vacation up there right now.  Being as isolated as they are, their infection rates are quite low.  I know they value tourism but man, too much of a risk allowing Washingtonians or Oregonians much less Texans to enter.

Alaska is a part of the States though and I'm assuming more Republican so probably follow the beliefs of economy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public health

[NewbieCanuckFan]

3 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

I don't want to live in that society. Will it one day be like Logan's Run? we will only keep the optimal people at the optimal age?

If one's significant other runner is like Jenny Agutter (circa 1970s)....I can only hope!