ruilin96 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, canuck73_3 said: Turris is garbage at this point though and Edmonton still has a weak defence even weaker with no Klefbom for the year and mediocre at best goaltending. Turris still put up 31 points in 62 games last season, at exactly 0.5 ppg. He only sign for $1.65 million. The Oilers had no threat to score outside of McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH last season. They had their top guys and then their bottom 6 or depth scoring is basically non-existent. They don't need Turris to be his 70+ point, they only need him to score about 0.5 ppg on the 3rd line and that is good enough. I rather have Turris at $1.65 million than any of Sutter, Beagle or Roussel at their current cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Squamfan said: Lol is Benning asleep? Could he not have traded Erikkson to the send? Don’t worry we still have our 18 million dollars forth line If Eriksson is so awful that you as a fan whine about his contract this much don't you think NHL GM’s would be hesitant to acquire him for anything regardless of their cap situation? 1 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Squamfan said: Lol is Benning asleep? Could he not have traded Erikkson to the send? Don’t worry we still have our 18 million dollars forth line Nilsson is going on LITR immediately so insurance covers his actual cash outlay. That’s why he had more “value” than LE at this particular time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PistolPete13 Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Leafs upgraded their blueline replacing Barrie with Brodie. Depth signings and bringing in players like Thornton and Simmonds gives them the character and experience that core is lacking. Not siginficant improvements, but I would say the right improvements that they need. They may be a bad playoff team, but they are a good enough regular season team that could get them to the playoffs. Oilers added much more forward depth. Last year it was McDavid or Draisaitl and then no body else can really step up. This year they will have Yammamoto for a full season. They also added Turris and Kahun on team friendly 1 year deal. They will have much better scoring depth. Granted, their defense downgraded and their goaltending remain the same (which is actually a downgrade given that both of their goalies are over 30 and it is a year older). They will be an interesting one to see if they can crack the top 4. Is an aging Joe Thornton and Wayne Simmons really going to move the needle any more than an aging Patrick Marleau and Jason Spezza? The centre of the universe may want to believe that. I’m not as convinced. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: In the postseason is where you see teams with poor to awful D hit the exits pretty early. Canucks were an exception with our goalies covering up glaring defensive issues throughout the year and in the playoffs. We probably shouldn’t expect that this year with Marky gone and we’ve also gotten more inexperienced with our D-core. Overall there’s a lot more question marks for the Canucks than most Canadian teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Turris still put up 31 points in 62 games last season, at exactly 0.5 ppg. He only sign for $1.65 million. The Oilers had no threat to score outside of McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH last season. They had their top guys and then their bottom 6 or depth scoring is basically non-existent. They don't need Turris to be his 70+ point, they only need him to score about 0.5 ppg on the 3rd line and that is good enough. I rather have Turris at $1.65 million than any of Sutter, Beagle or Roussel at their current cap hit. Turris isn't a two way player and he signed that deal post pandemic/flat cap. Not exactly a fair comparison. And Sutter/Beagle>>Turris imo Roussel maybe but I prefer 2 way players in my bottom six 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, PistolPete13 said: Is an aging Joe Thornton and Wayne Simmons really going to move the needle any more than an aging Patrick Marleau and Jason Spezza? The centre of the universe may want to believe that. I’m not as convinced. Not really. But like I said, they could still be a bust team when the games become playoff games, but they are good enogh team in the regular season. These guys are just players that will help guide them in the playoffs in the event if they get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, ruilin96 said: Not really. But like I said, they could still be a bust team when the games become playoff games, but they are good enogh team in the regular season. These guys are just players that will help guide them in the playoffs in the event if they get there. Signing slow vets in a speed dominated league is not a formula for success and even with Brodie that defence is mediocre at best abysmal at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, canuck73_3 said: Turris isn't a two way player and he signed that deal post pandemic/flat cap. Not exactly a fair comparison. And Sutter/Beagle>>Turris imo Roussel maybe but I prefer 2 way players in my bottom six It is unfortunate we are stuck with Sutter, Beagle, Roussel contracts and due to the pandemic those contract look even worse than they actually are. Even pre-pandemic, I would say Sutter, Beagle and Roussel are atleast a million overpaid and they were all signed for atleast a year or two too long. Sutter/Beagle > Turris if he were making his $6 million contract with Nashville. However, as of right now, Turris is both the better player and on a better contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Signing slow vets in a speed dominated league is not a formula for success and even with Brodie that defence is mediocre at best abysmal at worst. I have been trying to argue all along that their team is good enough in the regular season, right now their goal is to atleast win a round. In a best of 7 series, I take the Canucks over the Leafs. However, in a regular season schedule, I would still have the Leafs ahead of the Canucks in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Not really. But like I said, they could still be a bust team when the games become playoff games, but they are good enogh team in the regular season. These guys are just players that will help guide them in the playoffs in the event if they get there. You could be right. IMO Toronto will probably benefit more from not having to play the Bruins in the early rounds of the playoffs. Could be a game changer for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: I have been trying to argue all along that their team is good enough in the regular season, right now their goal is to atleast win a round. In a best of 7 series, I take the Canucks over the Leafs. However, in a regular season schedule, I would still have the Leafs ahead of the Canucks in the standings. One injury to that defence is enough to cripple them imo and the North will be a tough division this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Canucks were an exception with our goalies covering up glaring defensive issues throughout the year and in the playoffs. We probably shouldn’t expect that this year with Marky gone and we’ve also gotten more inexperienced with our D-core. Overall there’s a lot more question marks for the Canucks than most Canadian teams. Sometimes a thought pops into my head that says: The Canucks should sell what they can to who they can and be ready for following season. Play the youth and trade of the rest, this is unlikely to be a good season anyway.. I try to fight that thought, but sometimes I wonder. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannydog Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, Squamfan said: Lol is Benning asleep? Could he not have traded Erikkson to the send? Don’t worry we still have our 18 million dollars forth line I really hope your kidding. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Wow the cap weaponizing finally happened. To think that they could ship out an injured Nilsson and Gaborik and help TB gain so much cap space, while they gain Paquette (capable bottom 6 wrecking ball with speed) and Coburn (bottom pair vet) AND a 2nd, they actually could be a pretty solid team. Stutzle, Dadonov, Stepan, Murray and the kids coming up could mean the accumulation of a capable critical mass and in a hurry too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dannydog said: I really hope your kidding. He’s not 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dannydog Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: He’s not And that ended up being the fastest swimmer of the bunch. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 If Ottawa isn’t the most improved team in the league they will certainly be one of the grittiest and tenacious. They will not be fun to play against, I can already see Austin Mathews getting a fine for whining about the officiating after a game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ruilin96 said: Senators are not a push over next season. At this point, there is no bad team in the Canadian division. Hot take: Canadian division will be the toughest division among all 4 realign divisions. More ankles for petey to break. Edited December 28, 2020 by Rush17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said: I’m confused. Have the Laffs, or Soilers done anything significant to improve their rosters in the offseason? Or were both of those teams just unlucky to lose in the first round last year.? on the other hand, Canucks are gambling that Demko will be ready to take on a heavier load in goal, and/or Holtby benefits from a change of scenery and ian Clark can work his magic. Have the Canucks? We've lost Tanev, Markstrom and Stecher. Do you think the Canucks will place higher than the Flames, Oilers and Leafs? 34 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: You realize defence is a part of hockey right? Yes. i also realize that our 2nd best defender, Edler, is another year past 30 and we lost our best defender in Tanev... To Calgary. Neither of the Leafs or Oilers have a good dcorps... but let's not kid ourselves in thinking that the Canucks do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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