[Official] 2021 Training Camp Thread

[Captain Canuck #12]

4 hours ago, Petey_BOI said:

so we can get ruined at the first injury? what about the second injury? the third?

And looking at the condensed schedule this year, we're gonna need all the depth we can get.

Edited January 6, 2021 by Captain Canuck #12

[canuktravella]

20 minutes ago, Captain Canuck #12 said:

And looking at the condensed schedule this year, we're gonna need all the depth we can get.

 the vets hurt this team playing vegas we couldnt get out of our zone sutter and eriksson dont really bring much to the table id rather hungry youngsters getting experience 

[FaninMex]

1 hour ago, Outsiders said:

We most likely see

 

Miller-Petey-Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Gaudette

Motte-Sutter-Virtanen

Roussel-Beagle-MacEwen

 

Edler-Schmidt

Hughes-Hamonic

Juolevi-Myers

 

Demko

Holtby

 

 

Still want Hoglander to make it tho!

Agreed with everything except I would change Mac and Motte. Motte and Beagle have so much chemistry together that you cannot split them up. I think Roussel just makes that line so much stronger. I predict that those three will give many teams nightmares. 

 

I also think that having Virt and Mac chasing the puck and digging for it in the corners will add longevity to Sutter this season. 

 

With regards to people saying that we could move Sutter out for Gaudette, I do not see it yet. Gaudette needs to be better in the D zone and with faceoffs. Until then Sutter stays the better option for this team.

[dank.sinatra]

Completely crazy, left-field third line idea that I'd like to see tried:

 

Baertschi - Gaudette - Virt

 

Will never happen because TG will want more shutdown qualities and pk'ers lower in the lineup but man it would be fun have three lines that can score for once.

 

By all accounts Sven has been working his azz off in camp. I hope he can at least make things interesting and make Green make some tough decisions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bad_BOI_pete]

 

3 hours ago, aGENT said:

Yes, how dare we muse about the TDL on a discussion board. 

 

Asinine indeed.

i get that pretending to be the gm is fun, heck im doing it too. if it weren't for covid I would be down for trading sutter and his return for a rental. but when the actual GM says he's not expecting to make any trades it takes the fun out of it. It's kinda like imagining what to do with a winning 6-49 ticket, but you're not old enough to buy a ticket.

[Bad_BOI_pete]

2 hours ago, canuktravella said:

 the vets hurt this team playing vegas we couldnt get out of our zone sutter and eriksson dont really bring much to the table id rather hungry youngsters getting experience 

 

 

i like to believe that Green knows what he is doing better than any of us. of the returning forwards sutter had the 6th highest TOI in the regular season and 8th highest in the playoffs(LE was higher in the playoffs SMH) Sutter was also our third most played forward Short Handed and he's a centre. so if we trade sutter we will have to replace those short handed minutes with either Miller,Horvat which is less than ideal because of the grueling schedule. Or we replace those minutes with Graovac,Gaudette and Hawryluk who combined for a total of zero short handed minutes. Sutter and Beagle are very important to our team, we don't have any defensive specialist centres coming up the pipeline.

 

LE on the other hand can be replaced quite easily, I would love to see Pearson and Hoglander eat those short handed minutes LE played.

 

Benn is our 7th defenceman, unless one of our rookies can prove to be defensively strong he will most likely be the call up if one of our starter's goes down. By the end of the season he could be pecked down the depth chart and am hoping this is the case too. I believe we are strongest in depth on defense.

 

Im not saying a trade can't happen, Benn could become expendable if one of the rookies excels, but believe it would be in our best interests to hang onto him. This season depth players are more important than ever before. The compressed season and covid-19 could potentially sideline many player's at the same time. And I honestly believe we are a dark horse contender for the cup, the more depth the better. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Pure961089 said:

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[Pure961089]

It’s been the better part of 3 seasons and Jake and Bo have showed zero chemistry.  How long does Green continue trying to force this chemistry that just isn’t happening?  Jake plays well with Gaudette and Rousell that line has chemistry but Jake and Bo not so much.  I like what I’m seeing from Hoglander, he gives Green so many more options.  He’s an energy winger who can play both wings, he has elite puck skills, good speed and his edge work is close to the best on the team.  Green can plug him up and down the lineup and be confident he will bring high energy to any line he puts him on.  The addition to Nils Hoglander will only be a positive.  I don’t understand peoples hesitation with Hoglander.  Bo has never had a consistent right winger and even if Hoglander only contributes Josh Leivo numbers it’s still a positive.  I’d park Loui in the minors and take the 1 million. 

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27 minutes ago, Pure961089 said:

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10 hours ago, aGENT said:

It is true that covid may throw a wrench in any moves. Time will tell. Of course, by the TDL things may have opened up a bit (fingers crossed, for more reasons than just hockey).

 

Sorry, I don't subscribe to the whole binary (and myopic) 'buyer' and 'seller' thing. It's just silly. GM's will move and acquire pieces to improve the team as they see fit. Doing one does not mean you cannot do the other. Hell, we could 'sell' guys like Sutter and Benn and use the assets acquired to 'buy' someone even better.

 

Absolutism not required.

So many people use this as a way to take a jab at Benning. I like you prefer to believe if a deal comes up that makes sense for our club he'll definitely pursue that 100%. Pretending everything is impossible just because their own desired moves are not realized is no reason to be close-minded in my opinion.

[stawns]

7 hours ago, canuktravella said:

 the vets hurt this team playing vegas we couldnt get out of our zone sutter and eriksson dont really bring much to the table id rather hungry youngsters getting experience 

Yeah, never mind Sutter was one of the best fwds in the playoffs.  Brilliant

[DownUndaCanuck]

At the moment it really sounds like it's going to be a dog-fight for the last top-6 winger spot as it usually is. I'd expect it to be between Virtanen, Gaudette, Baertschi and Hoglander but to be honest, it would only be fair if Motte got a proper look in to see if he can elevate his offensive game to the next level. I don't think Green really knows just yet who's going to take the spot so it's up to the boys. I'm expecting it will go to Virtanen or Gaudette, but hoping Baertschi or Hoglander get it because it just means we've got extra scoring ability on our 3rd and 4th lines. 

[Locke Lamora]

As much as I’d love it I just don’t think Green will have enough trust in The Hog in his own end to put him in the lineup for opening night. 

 

When I look at his modest SHL numbers I do wonder if Hogs game, and ability to produce points, will actually translate better in NHL sized rinks when you look at his small space agility and high end stick skills. Word is he is strong for a smaller player so there is every chance that a compressed ice surface will help his game. Looking at Hogs numbers in the SHL also makes you realize just how remarkable EP’s final SHL season was. 

[JM_]

16 hours ago, BigTramFan said:

My opening night roster is shaping up as follows (23 players + 4 taxi = 27). Hoglander wins the 2RW spot. Baer makes the team over Roussel due to his better offence and ability to ignite PP2. Hamonic signed to ~$1m and paired with Hughes. Ferland moved to LTIR. MacEwen, Hawryluk and Chatfield kept on 23-man roster to avoid need to waive them to taxi squad (since these players are not waiver exempt). Waive Roussel and Benn to taxi squad (unlikely to be picked up off waivers). Chatfield, Kielly round out the taxi squad (both waiver exempt). Keeps another two taxi spots open to bring guys up from AHL as required. Loui is in AHL.

 

 

thats exactly the kind of scenario I think could happen. Jim very well could, and maybe should, expose a few of the guys with larger salaries for the opening taxi squad. 

[JM_]

11 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said:

I proposed;

 

Hughes Hamonic

Schmidt Meyers      To get Schmiddy on his natural side

Edler Rafferty

 

But I like yours better.

I think we'll see a number of different looks this year. Schmidt is such a useful player, I think we could easily see this at one point this year. I love it when there are multiple good options. 

[JM_]

2 hours ago, Pure961089 said:

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9 hours ago, Petey_BOI said:

 

 

 

As i pointed out earlier Jim has said he's not looking to make a trade, so until a situation arises that would make Jim reconsider, this whole trade talk is asinine.

 

 

 

 

 

Here is a possible situation; some other gm calls and proposes a deal.

[Rob_Zepp]

5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I think we'll see a number of different looks this year. Schmidt is such a useful player, I think we could easily see this at one point this year. I love it when there are multiple good options. 

This team has the most solid D it has had since their 2010 era and perhaps best in entire Division (certainly top 5 in league now....at least on paper).   The upgrade with TH and Schmidty, they could to a top pairing duo by themselves for about 1/2 the teams in the league, when you still have Edler, Hughes, Meyers and actual competition for the other two or three rotational spots is a luxury this team hasn't had in about 10 years.    I personally hate projections in such odd times but everything I can come up with has the improvement on the back-end more than making up for any losses in net (if there is actually any).   My largest concern going into the season for your Canucks is the lack of one more true top six winger.    Fingers crossed Virtanen steps up or NH is as potentially could be but one more top winger would be needed, in my mind, for this team to be a lock to play past the regular season.   Right now I think it could go either way and a lot will depend on the first 10 games (momentum never more important than this year).