Squamfan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 thank you to judd bracket for nils hoglander 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Eriksson didn't score an empty-net goal. I'm officially done with him now... /s Better then scorring on his own net . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, Squamfan said: thank you to judd bracket for nils hoglander Thank you Swedish scouts for Nils Hoglander 1 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, Millsy said: Tbh it doesn’t really bother me. As long as we don’t go full Europe I wouldn’t care. that being said, I’ve always wondered why companies advertise on jerseys, the boards etc. When I go to a game and see a Honda add on the boards, it won’t make me want a Honda if I’m buying a car, unless I wanted a Honda, I won’t buy a Samsung TV if I wasn’t considering one etc. Personally, I think these companies waste their money lol. I could the NHL making a slow transition to having the ads on the jerseys as well to cover up for the lost revenue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Do u have the points stats ? How did Hoglander do? I do not. But he got a goal and a couple of assists that I know of....someone can correct me if I'm wrong. Update: a goal and one assist according to the post game commentary. Thought he was in on 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: A lot of people feel Boeser can hold his own. Petey says he likes to face that sort of competition and Greener has stated he should expect to face that since he is an elite offensive talent. They're gonna be used more offensively so no dialing back needed. Who's a lot of people? Boeser isn't a nightmare defensively, but he's not out there often for defensive reasons. I'm sure there are stats out there that show he's mostly used in offensive starts. Green did say that, but that's in reference to top defenders and forwards that will try to get him off his game. If Petey is going to be facing the best scoring forwards on the other team, he is much better off supported with the likes of Miller than needing to take care of a rookie in Hoglander that isn't known for his two way game (I believe his coach in Sweden said he needs to work on the other 2/3rds of the ice). Quote Miller with Horvat ups that lines offensive and defensive play. They'd be an everything line. The assumption is that Miller carries his offense to that line. Miller creates the space for Petey and he benefits from the skill of Petey as well. I bet Miller gets 10-15 points less on Horvat's because he would be playing with an offensively lesser player plus being put into a more defensive "shutdown" role. You're putting two of the best faceoff players in the league on the same line, which seems like a bit of a waste of possession is important (on special teams or specific times in a game, it makes sense). This is like putting Hughes and Schmidt as a pairing, they might be skilled together, but it makes more sense to have a puck mover like them for a larger portion of the game rather than limiting them to only a third of the game. Quote Teams have needs, roles that need to be filled. If one line isn't doing that then another must make up for it which is what line 2/4 have done defensively. The Canucks as a team need line 3 to take up more defensive responsibility so that line 2, our 2nd best line, can be utilized to the best of it's capability(equally offensively and defensively) instead of having to be used a bit more defensively. Pearson-Horvat were flanked by Eriksson for a large part of last season. That was why they got shifted to more of a defensive line. Pearson wasn't the problem for the offensive side of things. This is why management has been looking for offensive players to play the right side. Slotting in Hoglander on RW is an attempt to see if his skill can shine with that line. Miller with Petey allows that line to also be responsible at both ends. Adding skill to Pearson-Horvat allows the same to happen for that line. This gives two lines that can provide "everything" rather than just one with the other mainly for the offense. Quote We essentially need line 3 to be a mini-line 2 providing secondary scoring and defense. When you have lines that can be trusted defensively and play in multiple roles/situations you can then roll 4 lines or match up how you please as you will have the flexibility too. I'd argue to roll all 4 lines, then all 4 lines need to be trusted defensively. That's why you can't load up the offense on one line as then that line becomes more of a liability. Miller balances that out on the 1st line. If we really want the 3rd line to be a "mini line 2", then you simply put Roussel-Gaudette-Virtanen/MacEwen/Gaudette/Hawlyruk to accomplish that and then add one of those to Beagle-Motte to create the 4th line. To me that's balancing the 4 lines and can all be rolled out at any time. However personally, I'd like to see Gaudette grow into the 3C role, which means either having another young(ish) player on his other wing or have Sutter there which we have seen before. Quote Partly contributed with moving the puck out. It's one part of a lot of things that go into defensive play. Like getting the puck back, covering lanes, playing below the hashmarks, play away from the puck etc. Canucks never gave up the puck a lot last year but we struggled to get it back when we did give it up. It should be an issue addressed at in as many ways as we are capable. I saw the main issue when we were trapped in our own zone, we couldn't get the puck out with ease. Even when we stole the puck back, we either dumped it out giving back possession or just not effectively getting the puck out as a unit. To me it was the connection between the forwards and defense. We need to either have a defender that can skate the puck out or have a player that can make the breakout pass. Hughes was the only one that could do so. Now we have added another in Schmidt and Juolevi is known for his outlet passes. To me, this will be the biggest difference. Not to say it solves all of our problems, but it's a big step in the right direction. To have one of Hughes/Schmidt on the ice (even with a 3rd like of say Roussel-Gaudette-MacEwen), it's going to make a big difference no matter who's on the ice with them. Think Colorado and how they have Makar and Girard and how that works, even with Jost as their 3C. Quote If we disagree on how we'd like to see Miller utilized or Hog or what not than agree to disagree. We seem to have an agreement where it matters in regards to have 4 lines Green can trust enough, given the roles needing, balancing out time and granting flexibility with the line deployment. We just disagree on how to get there on some parts. But yes we agree that minute management will be key this season. I doubt we will be see all 4 forward lines get the equal amount of minutes, but I'd like to ensure we don't burn out our players. I think it'll depend on the games and if say we have a solid lead, then hopefully new can depend on the other likes to eat up more minutes. At the very least Green and most of our players have gone through the bubble experience with a compressed schedule and that should give us a leg up to start. We can agree to disagree on how it's done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Good choice. He's an absolute workhorse. He was wearing a green "no contact" jersey but apparently it didn't mean "no contact"?? i think it's for the other player's safety. motte is literally a hitting machine. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted January 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 Hoglander deserves to be in the lineup, one week from now. 7 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gottalovethosenucks Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Devron44 said: Thank you Swedish scouts for Nils Hoglander Thomas gradin ? The same man that found you eagle and the twins and naslund too I’m pretty sure edit I guess you could put petey on that list too ... but I question marked gradin kuz I wasn’t sure he’s getting pretty old is he still our scout even lol ? Edited January 7, 2021 by gottalovethosenucks 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 We've had Trump and Covid to contend with. In a perfect 2021 start, Hoglander's on the team and Loui isn't! Come on, let's have some happy time for awhile. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 We obviously have to have a rookie stud every year. I mean c’mon guys it’s tradition now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gottalovethosenucks Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Hoglander deserves to be in the lineup, one week from now. I hope so I just bet my friend 50 that he scores 20 this year because he said he wouldn’t make the team lol!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, gottalovethosenucks said: Thomas gradin ? The same man that found you eagle and the twins and naslund too I’m pretty sure Yes, that’s beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millsy Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I could the NHL making a slow transition to having the ads on the jerseys as well to cover up for the lost revenue. On the shoulders ok, don’t want to see it plastered all Over like Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, gottalovethosenucks said: I hope so I just bet my friend 50 that he scores 20 this year because he said he wouldn’t make the team lol!!! You should have just bet him that he’d make the team then LOL. Honestly I’d be happy with 10 goals in a shortened season with a couple highlight reels. Still gotta temper expectations and if he’s playing with Horvat he’s gotta learn on the fly to play responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Millsy said: On the shoulders ok, don’t want to see it plastered all Over like Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, Squamfan said: thank you to judd bracket for nils hoglander So Bracket is responsible for every good pick the Canucks have made over the years? Sounds like someone has been reading too many HFCanucks posts... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Welcome back, "504 Gateway Time-out". We missed you. 504 is never far away. Personally I think its a 504 Calgary Flame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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