pmalina Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Master Mind said: Plus/minus and Hat Tricks have been removed, with Shots on Goal added (worth 0.1) and Penalties Drawn (worth 0.75). Values to be determined, if we even make changes at all. This is so that everyone can see how potential changes could impact player values. Be sure to take a look at this relatively soon, as we don't plan on keeping the test league up forever. If there's anything else you'd like to see tested, let us know. Reveal hidden contents Anaheim Ducks - @Jaku Arizona Coyotes - @thejazz97 Boston Bruins - @Canuck Surfer Buffalo Sabres - @Sygvard / @Sestito'sHandMadeVodka Calgary Flames - @BarkovTheCat Carolina Hurricanes - @JE14 Chicago Blackhawks - @Otis Colorado Avalanche - @Big-Country Columbus Blue Jackets - @BoKnows / @Alain Vigneault / @Blue Jay 22 Dallas Stars - @Peachman32 Detroit Red Wings - @Salter Edmonton Oilers - @Matthews Florida Panthers - @inane Los Angeles Kings -@Zigmund.Palffy Minnesota Wild - @Baer. Montreal Canadiens - @Bombastik der Teutone Nashville Predators - @apollo New Jersey Devils - @70seven New York Islanders - @Nail New York Rangers - @Master Mind Ottawa Senators - @Azzy Philadelphia Flyers - @Phil The Thrill Pittsburgh Penguins - @Patnat96 San Jose Sharks - @pmalina Seattle Kraken - TBD St. Louis Blues - @Rush17 / @Crabby Tampa Bay Lightning - @Nolan Toronto Maple Leafs - @canuckledraggin Vancouver Canucks - @Watermelons / @maroe Vegas Golden Knights - @JimLahey Washington Capitals - @AJay Winnipeg Jets - @Art Vandelay I believe the changes made are mostly for good! Some feedback for impact on my team: INFO ONE Weak team plus minus players average now 12 PTS more Strong team plus minus players average now 2.5 PTS more Removing plus minus is good! INFO TWO My forwards average now 6.1 PTS more My defenders average now 3.7 PTS more My goalies average now 0 PTS more The changes benefit forwards overall (I guess added stats are more likely being accumulated by them). So I reviewed an overall balance among positions as a last step. INFO THREE Share of players by position out of top 800 scoring players is: 8.5% of goalies, 32.4% of defenders and 59.1% of forwards. These are shares by position if we rank players: Top 100: 8% - 19% - 73% (goalies - defenders - forwards) 101-200: 11% - 34% - 55% 201-300: 9% - 29% - 62% 301-400: 7% - 35% - 58% 401-500: 11% - 34% - 55% 501-600: 9% - 29% - 62% 601-700: 10% - 37% - 53% 701-800: 3% - 42% - 55% Goalies seem to be quite evenly distributed. Forwards occupy too many spots in Top 100 with 7 being at the very top. Only 2 defenders made it to top 29! GWG, SHP, OG are all stats benefiting forwards in my view (newly added PD might as well). Or shall we search for ways how to support D more? Just a small change might be needed. What do you guys think? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 Great work @pmalina! I'll tweak the values in a day or two after everyone's had a chance to look, then see if it makes things a little more balanced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I like it. Only thought is I feel SOG should be worth .25. that is all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 9 hours ago, 70seven said: I like it. Only thought is I feel SOG should be worth .25. that is all. This Which also matches the points above by Pmalina, that D are impacted less. There are some high volume D SOG players. My team would be down with the rule change currently. I have a lot of play off team players, who inherently lose more than others on + / - This would even it out. As an aside, I have never seen a penalty drawn reward in a hockey pool. Aside from the test Fantrax > I would have no idea where to look? Although I did just sign Arvid Costmar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: This Which also matches the points above by Pmalina, that D are impacted less. There are some high volume D SOG players. My team would be down with the rule change currently. I have a lot of play off team players, who inherently lose more than others on + / - This would even it out. As an aside, I have never seen a penalty drawn reward in a hockey pool. Aside from the test Fantrax > I would have no idea where to look? Although I did just sign Arvid Costmar. NHL.com has it under stats section. Have to change the filter from summary to penalties, then a column Pen Drawn appears. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmalina Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said: This Which also matches the points above by Pmalina, that D are impacted less. There are some high volume D SOG players. My team would be down with the rule change currently. I have a lot of play off team players, who inherently lose more than others on + / - This would even it out. As an aside, I have never seen a penalty drawn reward in a hockey pool. Aside from the test Fantrax > I would have no idea where to look? Although I did just sign Arvid Costmar. Unfortunatelly it seems like forwards would benefit even more by having shots on goal multiplied by .25! Top 14 skaters in shots on goal leaderboard are forwards and only 3 Ds are in top 42. :/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Ok, @Master Mind , can we please have auth to have @pmalina as Boston's agent? In negotiations regarding new point systems... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) @Master Mind https://www.tsn.ca/-1.1602991?fbclid=IwAR0UHW1FPERxIYmAwDKYixP0nDhgTVh1FR4CWJSI53XAA4gn8-BLpv-ZEYQ Please remove Brent Seabrook's contract off our books. We wish him the best in retirement. Edited March 5, 2021 by Phil The Thrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygvard Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Buffalo would like to drop McKegg through waivers, and activate Hawryluk off of reserve. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Boston waives F Cody Eakin, 50% retained and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 Playing around with the scoring in the test league... Changing shots on goal to 0.25 didn't seem to change the balance of players, but did increase everyone's point totals by a wide margin. Seems to be better at a lower value. Forwards draw the most penalties. I've lowered the value to 0.5. As a means of balancing values between F and D, and using fewer decimal places, blocks were increased from 0.75 to 1. With those changes, there are more D higher up in the skater rankings. All skaters have increased by roughly 10 points though. Over a full season, we could see each player earn 20-30 points more than with the current system. Thoughts on this? Any other changes you'd like to see applied? I've also added a blanket F position in the test league for easier filtering. Another change we should probably make is changing Goalie Assists to Goalie Points -- just so the occasional goal is rewarded. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 The following have cleared waivers: Brett Connolly Ross Johnston Jeff Skinner Spoiler @BoKnows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 7 hours ago, Master Mind said: Playing around with the scoring in the test league... Changing shots on goal to 0.25 didn't seem to change the balance of players, but did increase everyone's point totals by a wide margin. Seems to be better at a lower value. Forwards draw the most penalties. I've lowered the value to 0.5. As a means of balancing values between F and D, and using fewer decimal places, blocks were increased from 0.75 to 1. With those changes, there are more D higher up in the skater rankings. All skaters have increased by roughly 10 points though. Over a full season, we could see each player earn 20-30 points more than with the current system. Thoughts on this? Any other changes you'd like to see applied? I've also added a blanket F position in the test league for easier filtering. Another change we should probably make is changing Goalie Assists to Goalie Points -- just so the occasional goal is rewarded. sounds good at all for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 Rangers place Justin Dowling on waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 To TBL: Filip Zadina, 2021 NJD 3rd, Conditional 2022 NJD 1st* To NJD: Pavel Zacha, 2021 OTT 1st *Top 3 protected, if so it's pushed to unprotected 2023 NJD 1st 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) Re-signed: Alex Ovechkin - 2 years, $10m aav FA signings: Joseph Garreffa - 3 years, $700k aav David Tendeck - 2 years, $700k aav Edited March 9, 2021 by Master Mind 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 STL TRADE BLOCK C - Nolan Patrick - (2M until 2022) C/RW - Oskar Sundqvist (2.75M until 2023) C/RW - Dylan Gambrell (1.35M until 2021) RW - Austin Czarnik (1.35M until 2022) LW/RW - Tomas Jurco (800k until 2021) D - Josh Manson (5.3M until 2023) D - Joakim Ryan (1M until 2021) G - Aaron Dell (2.25M until 2022) G - Jack Campbell (1.5M until 2022) Not actively looking to move these guys but am taking calls on them. We would like to move Jack Campbell out at one point to a contender as we cannot protect him in the expansion draft. We are open to offers - happy to move Dell as well if you were interested. Fringe guys can be had for a 4th or 5th. Patty we like but we are not closing off moving him if it helps us in other areas of need mostly on D. (We are on discord often, and check cdc regularly. hit us up!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Pending signing: Islanders waive Jordan Weal to the minors. Edited March 10, 2021 by Nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Ben Hutton - 2 years, $750k aav Brett Ritchie - 2 years, $700k aav Rasmus Asplund - 2 years, $700k aav Samuel Ersson - 2 years, $700k aav Edited March 10, 2021 by Master Mind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 The following have cleared waivers: Greg McKegg Cody Eakin Justin Dowling Spoiler @Sygvard @Canuck Surfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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