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5 hours ago, Master Mind said:

 

Plus/minus and Hat Tricks have been removed, with Shots on Goal added (worth 0.1) and Penalties Drawn (worth 0.75).

 

Values to be determined, if we even make changes at all. This is so that everyone can see how potential changes could impact player values.

 

Be sure to take a look at this relatively soon, as we don't plan on keeping the test league up forever. If there's anything else you'd like to see tested, let us know.

 

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I believe the changes made are mostly for good! Some feedback for impact on my team:

 

INFO ONE

 

Weak team plus minus players average now 12 PTS more

Strong team plus minus players average now 2.5 PTS more

 

Removing plus minus is good!

 

INFO TWO

 

My forwards average now 6.1 PTS more

My defenders average now 3.7 PTS more

My goalies average now 0 PTS more

 

The changes benefit forwards overall (I guess added stats are more likely being accumulated by them). So I reviewed an overall balance among positions as a last step.

 

INFO THREE

 

Share of players by position out of top 800 scoring players is: 8.5% of goalies, 32.4% of defenders and 59.1% of forwards. These are shares by position if we rank players:

 

Top 100: 8% - 19% - 73% (goalies - defenders - forwards) 

101-200: 11% - 34% - 55%

201-300: 9% - 29% - 62%

301-400: 7% - 35% - 58%

401-500: 11% - 34% - 55%

501-600: 9% - 29% - 62%

601-700: 10% - 37% - 53%

701-800: 3% - 42% - 55%

 

Goalies seem to be quite evenly distributed. Forwards occupy too many spots in Top 100 with 7 being at the very top. Only 2 defenders made it to top 29!

 

GWG, SHP, OG are all stats benefiting forwards in my view (newly added PD might as well). Or shall we search for ways how to support D more? Just a small change might be needed. What do you guys think?

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9 hours ago, 70seven said:

I like it.  
 

Only thought is I feel SOG should be worth .25.

 

that is all. 

This

 

Which also matches the points above by Pmalina, that D are impacted less.  There are some high volume D SOG players.  My team would be down with the rule change currently.  I have a lot of play off team players, who inherently lose more than others on + / -

 

This would even it out.

 

 

As an aside, I have never seen a penalty drawn reward in a hockey pool.  Aside from the test Fantrax > I would have no idea where to look?  Although I did just sign Arvid Costmar.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

This

 

Which also matches the points above by Pmalina, that D are impacted less.  There are some high volume D SOG players.  My team would be down with the rule change currently.  I have a lot of play off team players, who inherently lose more than others on + / -

 

This would even it out.

 

 

As an aside, I have never seen a penalty drawn reward in a hockey pool.  Aside from the test Fantrax > I would have no idea where to look?  Although I did just sign Arvid Costmar.

 

 

NHL.com has it under stats section. Have to change the filter from summary to penalties, then a column Pen Drawn appears.

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1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said:

This

 

Which also matches the points above by Pmalina, that D are impacted less.  There are some high volume D SOG players.  My team would be down with the rule change currently.  I have a lot of play off team players, who inherently lose more than others on + / -

 

This would even it out.

 

 

As an aside, I have never seen a penalty drawn reward in a hockey pool.  Aside from the test Fantrax > I would have no idea where to look?  Although I did just sign Arvid Costmar.

 

 

Unfortunatelly it seems like forwards would benefit even more by having shots on goal multiplied by .25!

Top 14 skaters in shots on goal leaderboard are forwards and only 3 Ds are in top 42. :/

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Playing around with the scoring in the test league...

 

Changing shots on goal to 0.25 didn't seem to change the balance of players, but did increase everyone's point totals by a wide margin. Seems to be better at a lower value.

 

Forwards draw the most penalties. I've lowered the value to 0.5.

 

As a means of balancing values between F and D, and using fewer decimal places, blocks were increased from 0.75 to 1.

 

With those changes, there are more D higher up in the skater rankings. All skaters have increased by roughly 10 points though. Over a full season, we could see each player earn 20-30 points more than with the current system.

 

 

Thoughts on this? Any other changes you'd like to see applied? I've also added a blanket F position in the test league for easier filtering.

 

Another change we should probably make is changing Goalie Assists to Goalie Points -- just so the occasional goal is rewarded.

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7 hours ago, Master Mind said:

Playing around with the scoring in the test league...

 

Changing shots on goal to 0.25 didn't seem to change the balance of players, but did increase everyone's point totals by a wide margin. Seems to be better at a lower value.

 

Forwards draw the most penalties. I've lowered the value to 0.5.

 

As a means of balancing values between F and D, and using fewer decimal places, blocks were increased from 0.75 to 1.

 

With those changes, there are more D higher up in the skater rankings. All skaters have increased by roughly 10 points though. Over a full season, we could see each player earn 20-30 points more than with the current system.

 

 

Thoughts on this? Any other changes you'd like to see applied? I've also added a blanket F position in the test league for easier filtering.

 

Another change we should probably make is changing Goalie Assists to Goalie Points -- just so the occasional goal is rewarded.

sounds good at all for me :) 

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