mll Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 39 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: This make little sense. Why is retirement on the table now, then why did he sign the deal with the Canucks in the Summer? Seems a bit odd, the timing, considering that he signed the deal, and when vaccines were made mandatory for all players, only is this coming out now? Vaccines aren't mandatory. There are different protocols for vaccinated / unvaccinated. Salary can be withheld for the days missed by an unvaccinated player due to quarantine requirements or if he tests positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: This make little sense. Why is retirement on the table now, then why did he sign the deal with the Canucks in the Summer? Seems a bit odd, the timing, considering that he signed the deal, and when vaccines were made mandatory for all players, only is this coming out now? Why does everyone keep assuming that he's unvaccinated? He has a sick kid, it is more likely around that. One fan suggests that "MAYBE" he's against vaccination and suddenly, its gospel on this board. Unbelievable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: So what happens to the cap hit of Hamonic if he does decide to retire? Does the team get cap relief? If he retires there are no more obligations and his cap hit comes off the books. If he decides to opt out he would still be under contract in 2022/23. The Canucks could also toll the contract - ie have it run for 2022/23 to 2023/24. The decision to opt out is due by this Friday at the latest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Why does everyone keep assuming that he's unvaccinated? He has a sick kid, it is more likely around that. One fan suggests that "MAYBE" he's against vaccination and suddenly, its gospel on this board. Unbelievable Maybe he's worried about travelling so much, especially to the States, and bringing illness back to his child? Although, I'm sure the team would have him tested before coming home, so that could ease his mind somewhat. Maybe it's simple, and he wants to be home with his family? Maybe he's just done playing? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, EmilyM said: If 2 is true, that was a pretty poor move to sign a deal two months ago and then inform your team at the end of September you might not want to play after all. like I said, he never really seems committed even from back in his Islander days. I bought tickets to a show 2 months ago, thinking the virus was receding, cases have spiked since then protocols are stricter now than they were 2 months ago masks are mandatory in more places a teammate has contracted it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Would be a massive blow if Hamonic doesn't play this season, we really don't have someone else who can cover up Hughes' mistakes. JB will be forced into a trade for a shutdown defenceman mid-season. Regardless of the cause, let's hope he suits up... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Would be a massive blow if Hamonic doesn't play this season, we really don't have someone else who can cover up Hughes' mistakes. JB will be forced into a trade for a shutdown defenceman mid-season. Regardless of the cause, let's hope he suits up... Poolman should be a decent partner, or we can try Hughes on the right with OEL. I'm partial to a Manson deal if we're able to work out an extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, lmm said: like I said, he never really seems committed even from back in his Islander days. I bought tickets to a show 2 months ago, thinking the virus was receding, cases have spiked since then protocols are stricter now than they were 2 months ago masks are mandatory in more places a teammate has contracted it Good point. When he signed in late July, we were hitting our best lows in terms of covid numbers. The spike in covid cases from his signing to now is a significant development. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Poolman should be a decent partner, or we can try Hughes on the right with OEL. I'm partial to a Manson deal if we're able to work out an extension. I'm starting to lean towards trying Hughes/OEL together. Hopefully Rathbone can continue to develop into a great 2LD to give them that depth flexibility. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: Maybe he's worried about travelling so much, especially to the States, and bringing illness back to his child? Although, I'm sure the team would have him tested before coming home, so that could ease his mind somewhat. Maybe it's simple, and he wants to be home with his family? Maybe he's just done playing? That's what I think, Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rekker Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 Family first, period. I have a feeling that as a pro if you start thinking you don't want to play anymore your done. I'm thinking JB had an inkling of this happening. He signed a plethora of right side dmen for depth and the team will move ahead. I love what Hamonic brings but Schenn and Poolman and Myers will work. There are several youngish righties signed for depth if needed. JB deserves some credit here for bolstering the weak, right side d depth we finished off last season with. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, rekker said: Family first, period. I have a feeling that as a pro if you start thinking you don't want to play anymore your done. I'm thinking JB had an inkling of this happening. He signed a plethora of right side dmen for depth and the team will move ahead. I love what Hamonic brings but Schenn and Poolman and Myers will work. There are several youngish righties signed for depth if needed. JB deserves some credit here for bolstering the weak, right side d depth we finished off last season with. I'm particularly excited for Woo. He's a very underrated prospect. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 55 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Why does everyone keep assuming that he's unvaccinated? He has a sick kid, it is more likely around that. One fan suggests that "MAYBE" he's against vaccination and suddenly, its gospel on this board. Unbelievable Ian MacIntyre is assuming it's vaccination related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, EmilyM said: I'm starting to lean towards trying Hughes/OEL together. Hopefully Rathbone can continue to develop into a great 2LD to give them that depth flexibility. Hughes has already volunteered to play right D (18 months ago) ..... said that in some ways he prefers it as the angles are better for a leftie playing the right boards Quote from "Vancouver is Awesome " ... When Hughes was drafted, he made it clear the he felt he could play both sides equally well. “I feel just as comfortable on the right as I do on the left,” said Hughes. “There’s positives and negatives to both. If I’m a rightie on the blue line, I can just walk in on my forehand. if I’m a leftie, I have to skate over. I don’t know if I explained that the best, but trust me, there’s positives and negatives to both.” Edited September 27, 2021 by Googlie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, EmilyM said: Good point. When he signed in late July, we were hitting our best lows in terms of covid numbers. The spike in covid cases from his signing to now is a significant development. Good points. How many US teams have a 100% vaccination/mask mandate for their home games? Vaccinated or not, I wouldn't want to bring any of that home. Watching NFL football, no masks at all, scary s&*t. Edited September 27, 2021 by johngould21 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, EmilyM said: Possibly, but then again he just signed his contract. Did he expect they would be playing games via Zoom? Hard to speculate on what his reasons are, but considering the NHL has announced phenomenal vaccination rates among their players, it really makes me scratch my head to know what changed for him in the last few weeks. Great post. That bolded part was funny. Yeah I can't figure out a scenario where this works out smartly. I have to question his decision making skills in this case. Maybe he's just terrified to do anything and leaves his options open to the last second before bailing out. I would feel more for him if he was a regular Joe trying to make ends meet but like Eddie Murphy said, 'the ends are meeting like a motherf$#*er'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Why does everyone keep assuming that he's unvaccinated? He has a sick kid, it is more likely around that. One fan suggests that "MAYBE" he's against vaccination and suddenly, its gospel on this board. Unbelievable Mainly because he's had a sick kid all along. This didn't just come about recently but vaccine protocols in the NHL did. Something isn't adding up properly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CR7 Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 I find it funny how many people judge a person for the size of their pay check... Yes Hamonic is a professional athlete, yes he signed a contract for 2 years at a point where it looked like Covid may be a thing of the past. Based on Hamonic's family health and his own personal history how could anyone suggest he is unwilling to get vaccinated... Hamonic skipped the bubble because he had concerns over Covid. He played last year because he believed that the NHL & Canucks had done enough to keep him safe, as it turned out the Canucks had the worst Covid outbreak in the NHL. Now if I am Hamonic, already with concerns for family and Covid, seeing the numbers go back up and realizing that not only are restrictions around the league softer, but now fans and media can enter the facilities... I would take a moment to put my future in prospective. Unlike most of us he probably doesn't need to work, but he still a person and deserves to be treated no differently. I might not like this decision for the hockey team I follow, but I sure in the hell respect a person willing to make a hard decision for personal or family reasons. If it ever comes out he is indeed anti vax, we can talk about how I feel about him then... But until I hear Hamonic say that's the case, media can piss off... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Regardless of what the reasoning behind his absence is, whether it's that he feels it's too dangerous for his family to be living the NHL, whether it's skepticism about the vaccine, whatever the case may be, I won't hold it against him too much. This is an insane situation that all of mankind is trying to cope with. I would never be so arrogant as to assume that I had all the answers. We're all trying to do the best we can. On a more hockey related note, losing Travis is a massive blow to the blueline. The one thing I am annoyed with both Travis and Jim for is offering/signing the contract to begin with. Jim should have made damn sure that everyone he signed was willing to get poked and was 100% ready to play, and Hamonic shouldn't have signed a contract if he had any reservations about playing this season. Now we're in a situation where, if Travis doesn't play, we're going to enter the season with a subpar blueline unless we trade for one last second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Would have expected a PTO for a right D by now. without him the right side seems very thin. Anything available on the right side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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