[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Calgary Ex-Canucks | January 16 2021 | 7 p.m. PT | CBC, SN, TVAS2, NHLN

[10pavelbure96]

11 minutes ago, fanfor42 said:

In two years the Canucks will be much further ahead and entering their time.

 

Petey Boes Hughes Juolevi Podkolzin Hoglander Demko  Gaud Motte Mac Rathbone will all be two years older and will all be better players than they are today.

 

Horvat will be a better captain in 2 years.  Miller will be 29 Myers and Schmidt around 31.  Those will be the vets.  The dead weight will all be gone allowing us to add a top UFA or two.

 

This year and even next are going to have ups and downs.  But this group is going to arrive in about 2 years time. If the young guys continue to get better and the team can hang around .500 and sneak into the playoffs it would be a successful season.  Expecting to win the division and the cup this year is a set up.

 

Two years..

 

 

 

 

 

Good points. Look how long it took Colorado from the time they drafted Nate McKinnon.

 

That should be the measuring stick. The rebuild didn't really start until Pettersson got here.

 

Just need to be patient 

[Sedintwinpowersactivate]

I’m as disappointed as anybody in the team’s performance the last 2 games.  I understand the need to vent.  This is a great forum to do so.  I tend to respect this coaching staff enough to know that the coaches know that their special teams were brutal and lost them the games.  I prefer to look at the positives:

1) it’s early... the coaches will make special team adjustments a focus in the next week of practice which could set us up for improved PP and PK moving forward.

2) we have the same personal on the PP as last season which was top 5. 

3) We lost Toffoli, but Hoglander looks like a player.  I really liked his hand eye coordination on point shot tips in game one that didn’t go in.  We haven’t had a good deflection specialist on the PP in recent memory.

 

Let’s all take a deep breath and see a bigger sample size before dismantling our coaching staff and team.  If we are at the bottom of the league in special teams at the end of this season then I can get on board with the argument to fire Brown.  C’mon man!

[brownky]

9 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

 

[brownky]

1 minute ago, Sedintwinpowersactivate said:

I’m as disappointed as anybody in the team’s performance the last 2 games.  I understand the need to vent.  This is a great forum to do so.  I tend to respect this coaching staff enough to know that the coaches know that their special teams were brutal and lost them the games.  I prefer to look at the positives:

1) it’s early... the coaches will make special team adjustments a focus in the next week of practice which could set us up for improved PP and PK moving forward.

2) we have the same personal on the PP as last season which was top 5. 

3) We lost Toffoli, but Hoglander looks like a player.  I really liked his hand eye coordination on point shot tips in game one that didn’t go in.  We haven’t had a good deflection specialist on the PP in recent memory.

 

Let’s all take a deep breath and see a bigger sample size before dismantling our coaching staff and team.  If we are at the bottom of the league in special teams at the end of this season then I can get on board with the argument to fire Brown.  C’mon man!

You among others keep clinging to this "stat" as though it means anything.

 

The actual fact of that "stat" is, we absolutely wrecked 5 teams last year going some insane number like 24/37 or something. I added it up last year.

 

Against almost everybody else we were at VERY best, middling. *AND* that was last year.

[EddieVedder]

1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said:

Ummmm name one elite goal scorer that isn't a line driver? And I meant Jake can be put with Sutter and is still a threat unlike like brock.  Also might add those two goals he got against the Oilers could be considered lucky at least the one where Hughes found him behind the defence while sitting on his rear and if that would have went the other way then brock cheated and got burned and doesn't have the speed to catch up to the play..... brock has been cherry picking imo 

Brock isnt elite.  He is a top 6 support player with  good shot and a feel good story that we wish was elite.  Personally i feel when Miller comes back, Brock should be on Horvats RW while Hoglander plays with Petey.  Ultimately i feel Podkolzin is Peteys RWer.  

[-NucksFan]

Good news on Miller

when it was first announced he was going to miss games they reported that he couldn’t drive to Alberta if he was cleared ( too far would need stops) 

Couldn’t fly commercial would have to quarantine in Alberta

last word was that he’d be able to play at first home game

guess the teams last 2 performances convinced to team ownership to shell out for a private jet to get him to the team and help them out ASAP lol

[Sean Monahan]

37 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

I'm glad someone captured this.  THIS was the play where I slammed Myers in here (not long afterward he did put in a better effort).

 

This one, however, is not acceptable.  So lackadaisy....no urgency at all.  Like him, but at times he's glaring in a bad way to me and this was an example of that...lazy play.  Hustle back.   SKATE...don't just give up on the play.

 

I don’t mind it, he was taking away the trailer. If Hughes had kept Mangiapane to the outside instead of going for the puck it’s all fine and dandy. 

[Sedintwinpowersactivate]

3 minutes ago, brownky said:

You among others keep clinging to this "stat" as though it means anything.

 

The actual fact of that "stat" is, we absolutely wrecked 5 teams last year going some insane number like 24/37 or something. I added it up last year.

 

Against almost everybody else we were at VERY best, middling. *AND* that was last year.

Are you saying other teams didn’t go through streaks or beat up on certain teams?  I cling to last season’s special teams stats because that is the only evidence based on a large enough sample size with our current group of players that we have.  I’m a scientist.  I base my opinion on evidence over a period of time.  I don’t form an opinion based on 3 games.  Maybe our special teams will suck this season?  Let’s wait and see.

[CaptKirk888]

28 minutes ago, Lazurus said:

You know folks should not be blaming people at random.

 

this was always going to be a tough season, not since Tortorella's year will the team be so limited in practice and game density. There will be limited practice time and the practices will not be very hard with so little time between games, Torts used to rest the players and he got more out of them.

 

People dislike Virtanen, Eriksson, think Sutter, Beagle and Rousell are paid too much, want the team to buyout Baerstchi and Eriksson, Ferland ended up a wasteland, unhappy because Markstrom, Tanev and Toffoli were not resigned. Want to blame Brown for a lack lustre PP and complain about a poor PK when Edler is a year older and slower, no Tanev, Hamonic just isn't Tanev so a backstep there and Holtby and Demko haven't lived up to Markstrom yet.

 

So in summation, t folks complain and blame, draft picks (Virtanen/Juloevi),bad contracts, poor performance by FA's, no capspace to sign more players, coaches that can only coach what they are given.

 

So players, contracts, draft picks, coaches, refs, and bad luck are all blamed

 

And in some cases have lowered their expectations so low that a chance, fluke all in effort for a playoff chance is sufficient to satisfy them, regardless of the cost.

Some look around and still deny that other teams are improving faster and some of the improvement on this team comes from other teams in decline

 

Aim low avoid disappoinment

You must be fun at parties…

[nuck-lifer]

Great having Miller back

Amazingly takes pressure off of about 8 forwards, and now they can slot into positions to maximize their strengths

[PhillipBlunt]

Edler is still a huge minute muncher. The guy is awesome. He should have skewered that scum Tkachuk with a stick yesterday. 

[-DLC-]

4 minutes ago, Sean Monahan said:

I don’t mind it, he was taking away the trailer. If Hughes had kept Mangiapane to the outside instead of going for the puck it’s all fine and dandy. 

There really was no "trailer" to take away.  

[-DLC-]

1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Edler is still a huge minute muncher. The guy is awesome. He should have skewered that scum Tkachuk with a stick yesterday. 

I missed what happened?  Left the room for a split second....  What did happen?

[ShawnAntoski]

6 hours ago, canuck2288 said:

Definitely coaching 

 

all teams generally have puck moving d men and all teams have talented players 

 

we do basic predictable and plays. Our go-to is to go back against the grain when sealed off on the boards. We do it all the time. This process of retreating invite forecheck pressure on the opposite side 

 

what we need in non lazy forwards to circle deeper in our end to give our d breakout options but our guts are all floating in the neutral zone. That kills breakout speed unless we make a perfect pass. 
 

Good teams break out with speed at their blue line not standing statically waiting for a pass in the neutral zone 

 

when we are backed up in our zone it kills be that we don’t ice it or simply focus on clearing the puck out over the line to at a minimum force the other team to regroup. Instead we circle back and get beaten off the puck by the forecheck 

 

basic stuff 

Nicely put but if an avg fan can see it, surely a bunch of paid coaches should be able to come with something with our current roster.   Perhaps a re vamp of the assistant coaches in stages would be what the team would need to get to the next stage of there developement.. .

[Nucker 67]

Getting Miller back (tomorrow?) will help, and it means Virtanen goes back to the bottom 6. Maybe Petey will cheer up and start playing like a superstar again. Having Miller's intensity around the team will be good for them I think.

[billabong]

 

[TheRocket18]

any news on Edler's cut?

[ShawnAntoski]

15 hours ago, Trebreh said:

Anyone else think Green missed an opportunity to play Demko tonight? Not saying Holtby was bad or anything (he was good), but it would've given the guys an extra motivation to win it for the goaltender that took Marky's job... 

 

 

It seems the whole team has been misfiring (so far) and it reflects on the preparedness of the staff.  The first game was a very sloppy game and the three reasons why they won was because Holtby made timely save, our playmakers made plays and McD was misfiring the whole game.....

[billabong]

Remember the times when people torched benning for acquiring Miller and those same people can now see how important he is to the team? Good times 

 

[PhillipBlunt]

12 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

I missed what happened?  Left the room for a split second....  What did happen?

Looked like after Edler hit him, he lifted his skate “accidentally” and got Edler in the shin/calf with it. 
 

I’ll never understand why such a talented player is such a piece of $&!# as a human being.