[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Calgary Ex-Canucks | January 16 2021 | 7 p.m. PT | CBC, SN, TVAS2, NHLN

[Roger Neilsons Towel]

14 minutes ago, oldnews said:

I love Cassie.

 

She's one of the greatest players of all time.  A huge part of bringing a whole lot of metal/medals to this country.

 

And provides much better analysis than the vast majority of her peers.

 

Players like her - who made jack $quat playing the game and are far better than some of the departed CBC twits - more than earned the role/job she now has.

 

I've had to listen to complete idiots  - like PJ Stock, Glen Healy, etc, etc - insufferable halfwits who were also never a fraction of the player she was....

 

I'll take Cassie anyday - and don't care if she might have a streak of prairie-homer in her - she's a pro regardless.  Like DeBrusk - who was a Coiler - you don't necessarily detect it / he checks his ego/identity at the entrance, like a professional - one of my other new favorites - and good riddance to the guy(s) he replaced.

 

Some people don't like her voice - Idgaf.

 

I'm glad people like her and Tessa Bonhomme have carved out well-deserved careers beyond their playing days.

That’s all well and good but her voice is the part we have to listen to. I like her from her playing days and respect her career. However her voice is nails on a chalkboard for me. My opinion (which I feel I should mention is not tainted by sexism before someone inevitably accuses me of it). I’m sure there are lots of worthy candidates with all the right knowledge and acumen, but if you don’t have the voice for it that’s kindof a dealbreaker. 

[rychicken]

11 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said:

Petey

Brock

Jake

 

The PB&J Line

 

Jake needs to play with some jam if he wants to stay on that line.....

[Roger Neilsons Towel]

2 minutes ago, rychicken said:

Jake needs to play with some jam if he wants to stay on that line.....

Fortunately Brock’s shot is back to being smooth like Butter. 

[oldnews]

1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said:

COME ON JAKE.  

 

Given this opportunity to shine, sure hope he does.  I'm so tired of it all...it's becoming a bit of a distraction for sure.  Just do it.

 

I'm calling the top line the Blood Pressure line until Miller returns...at which point it's the Beats Per Minute lotto line.

 

BOESER-PETEY-?

 

I'd love to hear some actual substance behind all the whining about /whipping-boying/scapegoating of Virtanen - if there is any.

I've read lots of one-liners and crap-goggles narratives, but yet to see a reasonably qualified word among it.

 

I'm far more interested in results than CDC stories.

 

The goal is to win, and you do so by outscoring your opponent.

 

Virtanen has the highest positive on ice goal differential on the team through two games.

 

4.9 on ice goals for per 60 5o5, 0.0 on ice goals against.   +4.9.

Small sample - whatever - everything here is small sample - most of it non-sample projection.

Virtanen has played about a dozen minutes with these guys.

The 'attention' / dwelling on his perceived inadequacy - is ridiculously disproportionate.

 

Neither the "Blood-Pressure" line, nor the bottom six lines that Virtanen has played on - have given up a goal with him on the ice.

 

Impossible to lose when you don't get scored on.

 

And btw - EP and Boeser - are getting rekt on possession regardless of who they play with.

87.5% ozone starts for both of them - 42.6% corsi for EP, 47.5% for Boeser.  35.7% in the faceoff circle.

They need a center.  Period.  No placeholding winger on that line is going to be adequate relative to Miller.

 

Nevertheless - the three of them are +2. 

 

So....really = it's much ado about nothing.

 

[D.B Cooper]

5 hours ago, nuck-lifer said:

Lots of talk about Jakes unimpressive starting the 1st line.

I don't really think its lack of effort rather then being lost in his role with 2 elite forwards. Jake can be a dominant forward  playing a simple game. Petey and Brock are not those players. Jake had a good camp, drove hard to the net and showed that he wants to shake his reputation of inconsistency but that needs to be in a role hat supports his game which at best on the 2nd line.

 

So what does that leave the team

 

Bo would be the best forward that we have to make this a real threat but that's loading up to much and making it an easy shutdown for opposing teams.

Hoglander has the skill level but would really hurt them overall defensively and he has gelled well on the 2nd line with 2 strong 200' forwards.

Pearson could be the best option bringing some size , decent board control and enough hockey IQ to help the line on both ends of the ice, but why breakup the 2nd line that has really connected and again been our best line so far.

Although I thought Gaudette would be a decent option that really hurts our offense on the 3rd line if Sutter has to slot in.

Sutter beagle an Motte make a great shutdown line most of the time and they all work their role pretty well albeit overpaid.

 

That leaves Roussel as the best 1st line option IMO

He has the energy , speed and defensive awareness to support the first line while keeping our other lines relatively intact. He also has shown a decent hockey IQ especially before he was injured early in his Canucks days.

 

Mac or Loui would slot in on the 3rd line. If Mac doesn't give us an aggressive forecheck, sticking up for his mates and some offense, then we are left with Loui who has probably played his best hockey for the Canucks on the 3rd line.

 

Flame away !

No pun intended considering who we're playing tonite 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good teams don’t play 4th liners like Rousell on the 1st line.  
That shows a huge lack of depth.   
we can do better than that

[oldnews]

21 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said:

That’s all well and good but her voice is the part we have to listen to. I like her from her playing days and respect her career. However her voice is nails on a chalkboard for me. My opinion (which I feel I should mention is not tainted by sexism before someone inevitably accuses me of it). I’m sure there are lots of worthy candidates with all the right knowledge and acumen, but if you don’t have the voice for it that’s kindof a dealbreaker. 

I don't have a problem with you not liking her voice.

And no one called you 'sexist' for it.

I'm simply stating my/the counterpoints.  

I intentionally did not quote or engage with particular opinions on the matter - because there is no 'objectivity' when it comes to preferences like this - no one is 'right' or 'wrong'. 

 

For me I don't judge her voice anymore than I judge the sound of many of her peers (I honestly can't stand the sound of a number of them) - but moreso, I have little regard for the content that comes out of their mouths.   A person can't change their voice - but they sure as hell have 'subjectivity' / perspective - and the ability to effect the quality of their content.

For me - she's a pro - and a huge upgrade relative to some of the idiots that have departed.  I'm certain that not a single ex-NHLer in those positions is there because he's blessed with a radio voice.

Edited January 16, 2021 by oldnews

[oldnews]

20 minutes ago, rychicken said:

Jake needs to play with some jam if he wants to stay on that line.....

Jake is the best option they have in present circumstances.

 

People need to accept that or propose a better alternative.  So far there have been literally none.  Motte is probably comparable - but who is 'better' there is debatable.

 

No placeholding winger there is going to replace Miller, period. 

 

And not many teams have top line centers to pull out of taxi squads....so....

 

Much ado / much noise - about nothing.

[Roger Neilsons Towel]

10 minutes ago, oldnews said:

I don't have a problem with you not liking her voice.

And no one called you 'sexist' for it.

I'm simply stating my/the counterpoints.  

I intentionally did not quote or engage with particular opinions on the matter - because there is no 'objectivity' when it comes to preferences like this - no one is 'right' or 'wrong'. 

 

For me I don't judge her voice anymore than I judge the sound of many of her peers (I honestly can't stand the sound of a number of them) - but moreso, I have little regard for the content that comes out of their mouths.   A person can't change their voice - but they sure as hell have 'subjectivity' / perspective - and the ability to effect the quality of their content.

For me - she's a pro - and a huge upgrade relative to some of the idiots that have departed.  I'm certain that not a single ex-NHLer in those positions is there because he's blessed with a radio voice.

Fair enough. To each their own. I do not doubt her hockey knowledge in the slightest and I agree that there are many others in broadcasting that I would rather not hear from as well for various reasons.

 

As far as the sexism goes, I just figured I’d get ahead of it since so many feel the need to look for a nefarious reason for one not liking something these days. 
 

I’ll leave it at that lest I be accused of negativity in the GDT. Either way I will enjoy the game tonight and will be cheering for the W. 

 

Go Canucks Go! 

[Squamfan]

[Squamfan]

37 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said:

That’s all well and good but her voice is the part we have to listen to. I like her from her playing days and respect her career. However her voice is nails on a chalkboard for me. My opinion (which I feel I should mention is not tainted by sexism before someone inevitably accuses me of it). I’m sure there are lots of worthy candidates with all the right knowledge and acumen, but if you don’t have the voice for it that’s kindof a dealbreaker. 

she sucks, sportsnet to hire Jessican Mendoza or Doris burke

  

[timmylu1]

TRIGGERED 

[yes we can nucks]

2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

COME ON JAKE.  

 

Given this opportunity to shine, sure hope he does.  I'm so tired of it all...it's becoming a bit of a distraction for sure.  Just do it.

 

I'm calling the top line the Blood Pressure line until Miller returns...at which point it's the Beats Per Minute lotto line.

 

BOESER-PETEY-?

At some point I'd like to see Roussel with Petey and Miller. Just so we'd have an RPM line!

[ForzaTikare]

Watching the Coyotes - Sharks game.. Playing with fans in the arena.. Didnt know they allowed crowds?

[Nuxfanabroad]

2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

COME ON JAKE.  

 

Given this opportunity to shine, sure hope he does.  I'm so tired of it all...it's becoming a bit of a distraction for sure.  Just do it.

 

I'm calling the top line the Blood Pressure line until Miller returns...at which point it's the Beats Per Minute lotto line.

 

BOESER-PETEY-?

Best Possible Jigsaw?

 

edit: Best possible Ruse might be apropos(AR for a few). Jake the snake only seems to strike with venom, when he's been forgotten(buried on depth lines).

Edited January 16, 2021 by Nuxfanabroad

[oldnews]

7 minutes ago, timmylu1 said:

TRIGGERED 

the basturds

Edited January 16, 2021 by oldnews

[BarnBurner]

2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

COME ON JAKE.  

 

Given this opportunity to shine, sure hope he does.  I'm so tired of it all...it's becoming a bit of a distraction for sure.  Just do it.

 

I'm calling the top line the Blood Pressure line until Miller returns...at which point it's the Beats Per Minute lotto line.

 

BOESER-PETEY-?

That's a great name for a line. Lind, maybe in a year or so? 

[Roger Neilsons Towel]

9 minutes ago, timmylu1 said:

TRIGGERED 

[Nuxfanabroad]

19 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said:

Fair enough. To each their own. I do not doubt her hockey knowledge in the slightest and I agree that there are many others in broadcasting that I would rather not hear from as well for various reasons.

 

As far as the sexism goes, I just figured I’d get ahead of it since so many feel the need to look for a nefarious reason for one not liking something these days. 
 

I’ll leave it at that lest I be accused of negativity in the GDT. Either way I will enjoy the game tonight and will be cheering for the W. 

 

Go Canucks Go! 

Sad state of affairs when we all must child-proof an opinion with layers of bubble-wrap! :^(

[Nuxfanabroad]

42 minutes ago, drummerboy said:

Good teams don’t play 4th liners like Rousell on the 1st line.  
That shows a huge lack of depth.   
we can do better than that

The obvious counter to such argument is Burrows, many moons ago. Chemistry can be a funny, unpredictable animal.

 

I gotta feelin' it might surprise...

[Locke Lamora]

15 minutes ago, timmylu1 said:

TRIGGERED