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BCNate Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I am surprised he never put it all together. At 25, he might get 1 more shot at the NHL, but I see him heading back to the Liga more than likely. Honka's potential was always pretty high in my eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Hasn't this guy been someone tons of Canucks fans thought should be traded for? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post goalie13 Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: Hasn't this guy been someone tons of Canucks fans thought should be traded for? Who isn't? 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Hasn't this guy been someone tons of Canucks fans thought should be traded for? Yep. I also remember some people here wanted him during the 2014 NHL Entry Draft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NHL'er Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 He turned into an 88 overall for me in NHL 20 after I claimed him off waiver. Would recommend. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazzle Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Maybe we can start reminding ourselves that a 1st round pick doesn't always pan out as planned. We can whine all we want about Virtanen being an apparent bad pick, but EVERY team has had a bad pick of some sort. Boston, for crying out loud, had three first round picks, and they didn't become a powerhouse team like everyone thought they would be. If teams knew their player would turn out bad, why would they pick them? It just comes to show you that the pick selection isn't as clear cut as one might think it is. As for the people who whined about the J.T. Miller trade, where are you now? Edited January 20, 2021 by Dazzle 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Maybe we can start reminding ourselves that a 1st round pick doesn't always pan out as planned. We can whine all we want about Virtanen being an apparent bad pick, but EVERY team has had a bad pick of some sort. Boston, for crying out loud, had three first round picks, and they didn't become a powerhouse team like everyone thought they would be. If teams knew their player would turn out bad, why would they pick them? It just comes to show you that the pick selection isn't as clear cut as one might think it is. As for the people who whined about the J.T. Miller trade, where are you now? For sure, every team has misses and players don't always hit their projections. Hoping players reach their potential is one thing, expecting them to is something else entirely. At least Jake's played almost 300 NHL games and shown that at the very least he could probably be a capable third liner. Some first round guys never even reach that. We might get that or more out of Juolevi as well, time will tell. Better to get a journeyman player than draft a bust. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Maybe we can start reminding ourselves that a 1st round pick doesn't always pan out as planned. We can whine all we want about Virtanen being an apparent bad pick, but EVERY team has had a bad pick of some sort. Boston, for crying out loud, had three first round picks, and they didn't become a powerhouse team like everyone thought they would be.If teams knew their player would turn out bad, why would they pick them? It just comes to show you that the pick selection isn't as clear cut as one might think it is. As for the people who whined about the J.T. Miller trade, where are you now? This is so true. right from the Bantam drafts held by the CHL Major Junior leagues. The WHL rosters typically consist of 25% of their players that were never selected in the Bantam draft. Well known NHL players like Jamie Benn, Duncan Keith and Shea Weber were all passed by when the WHL held their Bantam draft. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=a4463f613c&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1665437242624217091&th=171cd2592a529003&view=att&disp=inline Edited January 20, 2021 by Rick Blight 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Maybe we can start reminding ourselves that a 1st round pick doesn't always pan out as planned. We can whine all we want about Virtanen being an apparent bad pick, but EVERY team has had a bad pick of some sort. Boston, for crying out loud, had three first round picks, and they didn't become a powerhouse team like everyone thought they would be. If teams knew their player would turn out bad, why would they pick them? It just comes to show you that the pick selection isn't as clear cut as one might think it is. As for the people who whined about the J.T. Miller trade, where are you now? But but we had draft guru Judd Bracket nailing 100% of his picks when Benning didn't interfere and override him to purposely make failed picks. Trading 1st rounders then was like giving away surefire elite superstars! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 A Honka Honka Burning Love. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Maybe we can start reminding ourselves that a 1st round pick doesn't always pan out as planned. We can whine all we want about Virtanen being an apparent bad pick, but EVERY team has had a bad pick of some sort. Boston, for crying out loud, had three first round picks, and they didn't become a powerhouse team like everyone thought they would be. If teams knew their player would turn out bad, why would they pick them? It just comes to show you that the pick selection isn't as clear cut as one might think it is. As for the people who whined about the J.T. Miller trade, where are you now? Not to mention certain players might be developed differently, so it might have been a good pick, but just not developed correctly, whereas another player who was drafted later might have been a worse player that developed better in the system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Dazzle said: Maybe we can start reminding ourselves that a 1st round pick doesn't always pan out as planned. We can whine all we want about Virtanen being an apparent bad pick, but EVERY team has had a bad pick of some sort. Boston, for crying out loud, had three first round picks, and they didn't become a powerhouse team like everyone thought they would be. If teams knew their player would turn out bad, why would they pick them? It just comes to show you that the pick selection isn't as clear cut as one might think it is. As for the people who whined about the J.T. Miller trade, where are you now? I agree that initially the issues with Virtanen were based on his draft rank, however now I think most, including myself are just fed up seeing the same thing 5 years in a row. I could care less about where he was drafted. Now my issues are that Virtanen is inconsistent, a floater, soft, a defensive liability, attracts negative off ice attention, doesn't kill penalties, doesn't drive the net...Yes he does some good things, but nothing consistently enough for the coach or fans to rely on.. I'm over that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, JayDangles said: I agree that initially the issues with Virtanen were based on his draft rank, however now I think most, including myself are just fed up seeing the same thing 5 years in a row. I could care less about where he was drafted. Now my issues are that Virtanen is inconsistent, a floater, soft, a defensive liability, attracts negative off ice attention, doesn't kill penalties, doesn't drive the net...Yes he does some good things, but nothing consistently enough for the coach or fans to rely on.. I'm over that. Many a times, a trade fixes those things. I still think Virtanen can turn it around. Should’ve kept Toffoli. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrchief Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Me_ said: Many a times, a trade fixes those things. I still think Virtanen can turn it around. Should’ve kept Toffoli. I wish I had your optimism for Virty, I really do but I think the signs are clear that JB will give a big 6x6 contract for him to float. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Is it just me or is this player on a similar career trajectory as Derek Pouliot? Former 1st round defenceman with lots of potential turned journeyman/taxi-squad type player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Guy is likely done. Shame, I was indeed one such person that was interested in him in year's past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, warrchief said: I wish I had your optimism for Virty, I really do but I think the signs are clear that JB will give a big 6x6 contract for him to float. Sounds more like a dig on Jim....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrchief Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, Me_ said: Sounds more like a dig on Jim....... It's a dig on both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 grab him and waive one of our plugs sutter eriksson roussel macewen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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