Rejean Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Loosing both your two best defensive players (Tanev andMarkstrom) and an amazing offensive weapon ( Toffoli) without proper replacement result in what we are seeing. The Canucks took a bad bet and are loosing: they will not make the playoffs and I hope some heads will Fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Sens about to lose again Give nux a chance to get some pts Battle of the basement dwellers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, EddieVedder said: I keep saying it.. look at what Tampa and St Louis won with on the backend. They had horses who could play any style. Look at Vegas, Col and Montreal now. We arent winning with a backend with soft dmen who cant play defense. Benning needs to find those 2way horses that can play with intensity (like Edler used to be) if we are getting anywhere. Imo, the staff seems to had plateud and no player(s) will change the style being implemented on the ice... Edited January 24, 2021 by ShawnAntoski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: True, but our d took a step back. I think once Hamonic gets back in game shape, and Joulevi gains confidence it will help. It seems like any d we bring in turns into edler the turnover machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, PositionOfPower said: Nah schmidt understandably does not understand this joke newell baumer system Is that why hes getting consistently owned in his own end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jaimito said: Sens about to lose again Give nux a chance to get some pts Battle of the basement dwellers. Sens have the excuse of Melynk being the owner who doesn't exactly give the green light on expenditures like our owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Jaimito said: Sens about to lose again Give nux a chance to get some pts Battle of the basement dwellers. BATTLE FOR THE BASEMENT !!!!! Did not watch the game - anybody care to do a quick summry: is it more of the same sloppy loss or were they more discipline in this loss ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, EddieVedder said: Is that why hes getting consistently owned in his own end? Yes like all the other canuck d men. Then the system is the culprit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: I agree on the entire team missing those guys. You cant replace 3 guys that bled Canuck blue. Its had a huge effect on the team and i hope everyone on this board now understands you cant win with other teams players. But i think something else is bothering Petey. He doesnt make the mistakes hes been making so far. Seriously? Listening to the lame brained media are we? Look Tanman was/is Tinman to no fault of his own and when he goes down as usual it has always screws us.. Stretch? c'mon! middling dman in the league and hardly any potential offensive upside.. Marky? why keep someone as long term and big money only to lose him to Seattle, Demko is on the right side of 30 and only getting his feet wet so even if Seattle gets Holtby, then whatever we still have Demko who will have another good chunk of a season under his belt.. Losing Toffi was a covid frozen cap fall out and people just need to get over it.. now we wait for his replacement and I'd almost be willing to put up $ that a certain young Russian comes in and takes a 2nd line spot and our top 6 is complete for a change.. last thing, with new guys and no pre-season games for TG to try different line combinations and D pairings and no Nate, it's not really surprising that a slow start happened.. So ummm you can relax now, the sky isn't really falling... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, EddieVedder said: Is that why hes getting consistently owned in his own end? Iam leaning more to the system being implemented cause Schmidt was a very different player in Vegas.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Replayed the game, just finished watching. Wasn't the worst of the season, but the Canucks are ass. They suck and it's frustrating. They're completely out of sorts, there's no chemistry and I feel like finding something in my shed to hit with a hammer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, Darius said: Lets put aside who is to blame for a moment. In this half arse hockey season, due to covid and the weird divisional alignment we will never see again(hopefully), is it the worst thing if this team gets another top 10 pick in a year that is rich with defensive prospects. This team needs another stud d in the pipleline imho and this is a good as year as any to get another high end d man. That said, my only concern is...will we be another Oiler style team that goes through multiple cores before we are relevant again. Even Colorado looked like they were on the cusp a few years ago only to regress for a few years (Think of Duchesne moving on) . Are we going to go through that? Is Bo Horvat going to be the hemsky/horcoff/duchesne style casualty in our core because all the pieces of the puzzle didnt fall in place in time? He is in his prime right now. If we arent 'going for it' right now will guys like Miller/Horvat etc be fodder? We don't need to draft McJesus, Matthews Crosby etc. to be good.Our drafting and development has come a long way and looks pretty good. We need to spend the money better. Look at Montreal's players line per line then look at ours. We are not deep enough at any position. Third liners need to be able to score. Today's fourth lines have guys that can play. I like our D core but we had one of the best two way defenders in the west and we let him walk away. Just not enough good players. Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Convincing John said: No things aren’t as bad as they seem. I think we have a great young core. I just think it’s time for some new ideas. Benning’s weakness is holding back his strength. He has admitted to trying to “stay competitive” while building this time. “Filling the age gap” Now that we can step back and critique his plan and where his plan has taken us, one could argue that his “filling the gap” is detrimental to us today. We are now in the future period he talked about reaching and IMO he screwed up by not giving himself flexibility. A lottery team shouldn’t be signing long term deals. If you want mentors sign guys like Cory Perry to a 1 year twilight a contract. well first I doubt it was "competitive" coming from him but more from Aquaman, fair enough though, rip it down but slowly, because that was the only way anyway with all the old contracts off year by year and trying to keep seats somewhat filled.. Imo it takes playing with a mentor more than just one season though especially if it's a young rookie, especially on D... I'm just happy we're building a farm team though, that's one thing this franchise has never really built as we traded away drafts for roster players.. that was painful, that's ok when you have a ton of prospects but we NEVER had that so here we are without a cup.. ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, stawns said: The only cap casualty was TT. Everyone else was replaced Tanev and Marky were cap casualties that were not replaced. Scmidt would look so good as a piece of the D core if Tanev were still here. He looked way better in Vegas surrounded by a super deep and super skilled team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 We'll be fine and go on a run. Believe people!! Can barely stand to read this forum currently! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, luckylager said: Replayed the game, just finished watching. Wasn't the worst of the season, but the Canucks are ass. They suck and it's frustrating. They're completely out of sorts, there's no chemistry and I feel like finding something in my shed to hit with a hammer. Save it. It's gonna get worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 The “Giveaways” stat is what concerns me the most. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, bad alice french said: We don't need to draft McJesus, Matthews Crosby etc. to be good.Our drafting and development has come a long way and looks pretty good. We need to spend the money better. Look at Montreal's players line per line then look at ours. We are not deep enough at any position. Third liners need to be able to score. Today's fourth lines have guys that can play. I like our D core but we had one of the best two way defenders in the west and we let him walk away. Just not enough good players. Sucks "we" LET him walk? ok projected outlook was 5 million-ish cap increase.. had it happened, Tyler would still be here.. we didn't let him walk as if money had nothing to do with it, if you think so you might want to re-think that a minute.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, -Vintage Canuck- said: The “Giveaways” stat is what concerns me the most. Holy cr** Green seriously needs to go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Make the change now JB !!! quarantine Gallant or Babs and lets save this season and be ready for the window years ahead smyl can take interim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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