Jim Benning, An Excellent Evaluator of Talent, BUT NO GM!

[Seeker1]

JIM BENNING HAS HAD AMPLE TIME TO demonstrate that he is a good GM.Unfortunately, all he has shown that he is an above average, perhaps, a very good HEAD SCOUT. His decision making, and his asset management  has been very, very POOR.(giving away Draft choices and receiving little or nothing in return) It is long past due for the Canucks to replace this MANAGEMENT TEAM, and replace it with a younger more savvy, competent GM, not just a Head Scout, with management aspirations.

 

 For all of Benning's "good drafting," the Vancouver Canucks have made little progress to become a top five team, and in fact, are still a stagnant, mediocre team, despite having talents like Hughes, and Petterson.

 

Ownership, you need to find, and put into place, a talented, new management team, NOT PREVIOUSLY FIRED RE-TREADS.

 

The Canucks have been  in the NHL for over 50 years, and have yet to WIN ONE STANLEY CUP.The Fan Base is tired, and angry, over the continued MEDIOCRITY OF THE VANCOUVER CANUCKS. Will it take another 25 years, or 50 more years for this Canuck team to bungle, and fumble their way to more future INCOMPETENCE?

 

The Vancouver Canucks seemingly have a good scouting staff, but GM, and Assistant GM, who have had a good run as executives with the Canucks, are the KEYSTONE COPS, OF THE NHL.

 

I submit, GM, AND ASSISTANT GM NEED TO BE REMOVED AS SOON AS THE 2021 SEASON IS OVER!

[CaptainKool]

Then, if we get a few games winning streak. Jim Benning GM of the year. LOL

[Grape]

Just now, CaptainKool said:

Then, if we get a few games winning streak. Jim Benning GM of the year. LOL

It's not the same people saying opposite things though. Different people have different opinions and that'll happen when your fanbase is massive.

Edited January 24, 2021 by Grape

[ItsMillerTime]

The Canucks cup window is coming up they honestly should be contenders now, but we'll have to wait a couple years. If Benning's cap management was a bit better we would have been able to bring back Toffoli and Marky this year and looked probably a lot more solid. They got prospects and players continuing to get better i'm not worried about the Canucks now I know they'll be really good in the future.  (Edit: i don't understand how anyone can say haha... If the Canucks kept improving from last years run they would be 100% contenders. Jokes on them anyway for being wrong.)

Edited January 26, 2021 by ItsMillerTime

[AriGold2.0]

You can't let him go when it's at the turn.. Gotta let it happen this year and into next..

[Dazzle]

And once again, the overreaction from this board continues.

[420Fish]

If any part of your life has gone or is going the way you planned this last year, then count your blessings. I'm giving everyone a pass under the circumstances.

[goalie13]

1 hour ago, Seeker1 said:

Ownership, you need to find, and put into place, a talented, new management team, NOT PREVIOUSLY FIRED RE-TREADS.

You mean, like Jim Benning when he first arrived here?

[kanucks25]

33 minutes ago, 420Fish said:

If any part of your life has gone or is going the way you planned this last year, then count your blessings. I'm giving everyone a pass under the circumstances.

Pandemic didn't start in 2014.

[Toyotasfan]

Overreaction thread of the week award or soon to be locked .

[Nucker 67]

Excellent evaluator of talent?

 

Two words:  Virtanen Juolevi 

[Slegr]

6 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Excellent evaluator of talent?

 

Two words:  Virtanen Juolevi 

I’m actually quite pleased with Joulevi. Injuries delayed his career, but right now he’s got the best +\- on the Canucks.

[Tracksuit]

Huh did he evaluate LE Benn Myers Gagne sutter beagle AR ferland hamonic 

ect ect ect... 

how many ufa  fails has this guy evaluated 

I’m sure it’s a another franchise record for fails. 

[Roberts]

13 years later you finally come back to CDC and this is what we get

[CanuckFromAfar]

I've been a fan of the Canucks, and although I'm a Seattleite, I still will have a soft spot in my heart for them--naturally, I'll be rooting for the Kraken when they begin play. I'm far from an expert, but the way the Canucks manage the salary cap seems baffling. If you're going to let your most valuable player walk, the one who bailed out your porous defense--I'm speaking, of course, of Jacob Markstrom--then shouldn't you be concentrating on shoring up your defense? No more Chris Tanev, Edler is another year older, Tyler Myers is slow, and Quinn Hughes--well, he's very talented, but he's like a vegetarian who doesn't like vegetables. I'm not saying he should be converted to forward, but if he's going to come forward, somebody needs to stay back and even rotate back. I see this maybe improving this season but never being great because the Canucks don't have the right personnel in place.

I have a prediction, and I don't mind being wrong: The Kraken will win a Stanley Cup before the Canucks do. There's just something off with the Canucks--I wouldn't be surprised if it can be ultimately traced to ownership. I think Travis Green is a good coach, I really do, but he can only do so much.

[King Heffy]

[Provost]

54 minutes ago, Slegr said:

I’m actually quite pleased with Joulevi. Injuries delayed his career, but right now he’s got the best +\- on the Canucks.

Umm... because he has hardly played, and the times he played it was in sheltered minutes against lesser competition.

 

Boeser, Petterson, and Hughes are drafted higher if a redraft happens.  Juolevi and Virtanen are taken later.

 

Anyone reasonable would agree with that.  Benning has done fairly well in the draft and that is his strong suit, but it isn’t like he has been at some sort of genius level.  
 

For being able to pick high in the last 7 drafts and a possible 49 players, we don’t have a lot of surprise guys come out of the woodwork playing significant roles on the team.

 

His best skill is drafting, so trading ways so many good picks seems like it was a bad idea.

 

Edited January 24, 2021 by Provost

[iinatcc]

2 hours ago, CaptainKool said:

Then, if we get a few games winning streak. Jim Benning GM of the year. LOL

I doubt that's going to happen this season 

[Ballisticsports.]

14 minutes ago, Provost said:

Umm... because he has hardly played, and the times he played it was in sheltered minutes against lesser competition.

 

Boeser, Petterson, and Hughes are drafted higher if a redraft happens.  Juolevi and Virtanen are taken later.

 

Anyone reasonable would agree with that.  Benning has done fairly well in the draft and that is his strong suit, but it isn’t like he has been at some sort of genius level.  
 

For being able to pick high in the last 7 drafts and a possible 49 players, we don’t have a lot of surprise guys come out of the woodwork playing significant roles on the team.

 

His best skill is drafting, so trading ways so many good picks seems like it was a bad idea.

 

Were the scouts let go, because we didn't need them ?

Boeser was picked where he was ranked

Hughes was to go higher and fell to us

Petterson was a reach spurred on by his scouting staff

Podz was to go higher but 2 yrs in Russia dropped him

A lot on here, would have made those choices too with scouting reports and rankings and being able to see them play

 

If one is a great evaluator on unproven NHL talent, how can one be so poor on trading or signing proven NHL players?

Maybe it's because. 

Scouts search unproven NHL talent and report the info

GM and coachs evaluate proven current NHL players

 

I agree we need more returns from the lower rounds that make HUGE contributions,

We just saw some on Montreal and Vancouver does not have that playing in the NHL that make other teams envious

[Whalespray]

Meh Loui was consensus a fantastic signing at the time he had just ripped it up with the Sedins and put up 30+ goals for boston. Hindsight's a biotch.

 

Myers took a discount to come here and is literally the only guy we have that makes the other team keep their head up. 

 

Beagle I maintain is a beast for us. even if you don't think so. 

 

Roussel is no Burrows/Jarko oops 

 

Realistically I aint mad at JB its not his fault we are down to 3 nhl D and Petterson is in a drought. Letting Markstrom and Tanev walk sucks in the short term especially because they are flames now but long term had he made those deals I might be right there with you calling for his head so IMO he is on the right track unfortunately there are going to be ups and downs.