smokes Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Looks like Biden's executive order will allow transgender athletes to compete in schools against the gender they identify with. I have four questions on this. 1. Does this mean any guy can simply say that he identifies as a female then participate in contact sports like wrestling etc? There is a lot of opportunities for abuse. 2. Do transgender athletes also have to share the same dressing rooms with the female athletes? As a father of a daughter, I am not sure I am comfortable with that nor make my daughter come home to get changed. 3. Why can’t they create a new category? Female athletes, male athletes and transgender athletes And my forth and biggest question. Is this fair for biological females? What do you think? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-executive-order-schools-transgender-athletes-girls-sports 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Now that’s a loaded question 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I'm all for not violating peoples rights. But you have to say there's an unfair advantage if your were previously male/ changed to a female and then go into weightlifting, or sports where there would be an advantage. The problem with a transgender category is what if there is only 1 of you in a specific sport at a group of schools? Is a sports activity and competition in a sport a right? I basically think there's no real right answer on this one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Everything except the pole vault.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold2.0 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 The answer to your question is no, unfair advantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoCanucks16 Posted February 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2021 this site is transphobic and there will be no productive discussion here 3 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksCountry Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 No. there is a huge unfair advantage for Males that identify as female in lots of sports, it needs to be biological for the sake of women's sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Not PC.... but biological male are male... biological females are female. Let them compete base on sex, not gender. If not... then what's the point of having separation between men, women, whatever.... just have open for all comers. Just remember to put things into perspective... top tier women athletes are roughly the same level as lower level junior men's. For example.... Serena Williams goes head-to-head against a guy who's ranked 200+. The Canadian Women's Hockey Olympic team can probably compete with Midget AAA teams.... the league below the levels of the BCHL. Any trans that transition after puberty would probably demolish the majority of women in whatever sport. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Some literature for discussion: https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbt-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/02/01/group-protect-womens-sports-accommodate-transgender-athletes/4345854001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/19/transgender-athletes-robbing-girls-chance-win-sports-column/4856486002/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) As far as locker rooms are concerned, we don't know what the actual result is yet. I say use the locker room based on sex or install a gender neutral locker room. As far as advantages and what not, if we are dealing with k-12 then whatever. Who really cares. At collegiate and prof sports, the rule of thumb is that the transgender needs to prove that they have undergone hormone therapy for some number of years in order to qualify. Edited February 3, 2021 by 24K PureCool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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6of1_halfdozenofother Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: ...install a gender neutral licker room. TMI... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, GoCanucks16 said: this site is transphobic and there will be no productive discussion here And you say this with what actual proof to back up your flimsy narrative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, smokes said: Looks like Biden's executive order will allow transgender athletes to compete in schools against the gender they identify with. I have four questions on this. 1. Does this mean any guy can simply say that he identifies as a female then participate in contact sports like wrestling etc? There is a lot of opportunities for abuse. 2. Do transgender athletes also have to share the same dressing rooms with the female athletes? As a father of a daughter, I am not sure I am comfortable with that nor make my daughter come home to get changed. 3. Why can’t they create a new category? Female athletes, male athletes and transgender athletes And my forth and biggest question. Is this fair for biological females? What do you think? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-executive-order-schools-transgender-athletes-girls-sports Honestly, they should just create a new category for transgender and be done with it imo. But, how many of those athletes will there be in certain sports/age groups? WIll it be enough to justify it, I don't think so but just create it and whoever joins under that group will compete against fellow transgender people. Only issue it might cause is more travel for those specific athletes to compete against fellow transgender people. I do NOT think they should allow a born Male/female to square off against an opposite sex opponent in some sports. Some might be fine but wrestling like you mentioned should have its own category as would hockey I assume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCanucks16 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: And you say this with what actual proof to back up your flimsy narrative? I'm not going to bother to search for old threads, but there have been plenty across the years where the contents are disgusting. Just in this one, though: 26 minutes ago, Lancaster said: Not PC.... but biological male are male... biological females are female. Let them compete base on sex, not gender. If not... then what's the point of having separation between men, women, whatever.... just have open for all comers. Just remember to put things into perspective... top tier women athletes are roughly the same level as lower level junior men's. For example.... Serena Williams goes head-to-head against a guy who's ranked 200+. The Canadian Women's Hockey Olympic team can probably compete with Midget AAA teams.... the league below the levels of the BCHL. Any trans that transition after puberty would probably demolish the majority of women in whatever sport. Unless they missed adding "people," that's like referring to a schizophrenic person as a schizophrenic or someone with down syndrome as a "downy." Edited February 3, 2021 by GoCanucks16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 girls that wanna be guys can compete against other guys, but guys that wanna be girls - no fricken way when did life become so confusing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCanucks16 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: And you say this with what actual proof to back up your flimsy narrative? oh, and another: 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: girls that wanna be guys can compete against other guys, but guys that wanna be girls - no fricken way when did life become so confusing? hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, GoCanucks16 said: this site is transphobic and there will be no productive discussion here This is an example of the problem with discussion in todays politically charged climate. Anyone who tries to provide an opinion from the other side gets labeled as sexist, racist, fascist, or some kind of phobic. It is our way or the highway. Never mind the fact that athletics has taken an anti-doping stance, yet developing as a male gives that person an advantage that females, who have to abide by anti-doping regulations cannot dream of achieving. That kind of take gets labeled as transphobic, as opposed to challenging the position based on the merit. It is weak as hell. 1 3 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, GoCanucks16 said: Unless they missed adding "people," that's like referring to a schizophrenic person as a schizophrenic or someone with downs syndrome as a "downs." So I guess we can't call certain segments "gays", "lesbians", "queers", "Chinese", "European", "males", "females", etc...? It should be "gay people", "lesbian people", "male people"? Adding "people" is just redundant.... since you know... they're already people. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 47 minutes ago, smokes said: Looks like Biden's executive order will allow transgender athletes to compete in schools against the gender they identify with. I have four questions on this. 1. Does this mean any guy can simply say that he identifies as a female then participate in contact sports like wrestling etc? There is a lot of opportunities for abuse. 2. Do transgender athletes also have to share the same dressing rooms with the female athletes? As a father of a daughter, I am not sure I am comfortable with that nor make my daughter come home to get changed. 3. Why can’t they create a new category? Female athletes, male athletes and transgender athletes And my forth and biggest question. Is this fair for biological females? What do you think? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-executive-order-schools-transgender-athletes-girls-sports Should be #3. We have the Olympics, we have the Paralympics, and we have the Special Olympics. Add a 4th, Translympics. Problem solved. Biden, SMH... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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