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[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Toronto Maple Laffs | February 4, 2021 | 4 p.m. PT | SNP

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20 minutes ago, kilgore said:

 

We miss Stecher more than most fans will admit.  He was one of our best defensive d-men.  One of our quickest at puck recovery and getting it or moving it out of the zone.  And was relied on for the PK. Paired with Edler last season and the playoffs, they had the best plus minuses of every other d. He's exactly what we need more of.

 

He wasn't a PKer for us and only averaged 15:21 last year during the season and 16:20 in the playoffs.

 

He was a top 6 D for us at best.

 

We also sucked defensively last year. Gave up a lot of chances as well. There's a reason why Marky was our MVP.

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4 minutes ago, 1-d said:

If I wanted to watch a circus, I'd rather watch a monkey eating a fireball than this sh!tshow.

To be fair, I'd watch a monkey eating a fireball over most things.

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Just now, Junkyard Dog said:

He wasn't a PKer for us and only averaged 15:21 last year during the season and 16:20 in the playoffs.

 

He was a top 6 D for us at best.

 

We also sucked defensively last year. Gave up a lot of chances as well. There's a reason why Marky was our MVP.

4th in Vezina voting that season as well.

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3 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

That's a weak team then....   Don't forget that we had Toffoli for a grand total of TEN regular season games.  

 

Quinn sucking can be attributed to Tanev, I'll give you that.  Quinn is supposed to be our best d-man, and he's not playing like one.  Myers is really sucking big time this year too. 

Ya but when u pay high price and trade for a guy like toffoli u dont let him walk. Especially at 4.25 mill..

 

If u want to build on last year towards a Cup u need more toffolis not less. 

 

Its a horrible decision losing him. Just as bad as signing Loui or Myers to those terrible contracts.

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1 minute ago, ba;;isticsports said:

At a 183 ibs, is he really that big? Any Canucks should be able to stand up to him

Teams been neutered, they need some Kobra Kai mentality pushed on them. Been this way for so long now it seems.  

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2 minutes ago, EmilyM said:

And it's exacerbated by the fact that we rely heavily on our possession game to offset our defensive deficiencies. And when our top forwards aren't performing, it trickles down to D.

Only way this sort of D works is if our goalie is the best guy on the ice. It's not winning hockey overall.

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3 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

That's a weak team then....   Don't forget that we had Toffoli for a grand total of TEN regular season games.  

 

Quinn sucking can be attributed to Tanev, I'll give you that.  Quinn is supposed to be our best d-man, and he's not playing like one.  Myers is really sucking big time this year too. 

Last year whenever Quinn or Myers or Edler was starting to get off in their play, Green would partner them with Tanev and they'd get their confidence back.

 

Now there is no one to do that and all three have lost their confidence.

 

What Marky did was give the team confidence that when they scr*wed up there was someone backing them up who could pull the biscuit out of the air and save the day.  Demko and Holtby are just not playing that well.  Demko will be an excellent goalie if he's not ruined by this experience, but he's not ready to put the team on his back yet.

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1 minute ago, WHL rocks said:

Ya but when u pay high price and trade for a guy like toffoli u dont let him walk. Especially at 4.25 mill..

 

If u want to build on last year towards a Cup u need more toffolis not less. 

 

Its a horrible decision losing him. Just as bad as signing Loui or Myers to those terrible contracts.

Would have come down to paying to trade Sutter (which wouldn’t have been that much) I’d do that everyday of the week. Sutter had a decent healthy season would have been so able.

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3 minutes ago, sassbs said:

He shouldn’t have signed Jake then.   If that’s the case it came down to either Toffoli or Jake. 

Hindsight. 18 goals last year. Could really use some of that right now even if we have worse problems

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1 minute ago, Devron44 said:

Well at the very least looks like Calgary’s player meeting went well. Another loss for them. Die Calgary die 

 

sorry is that too much 

Never. In fact, we want more, Devron. 

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2 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

4th in Vezina voting that season as well.

He covered up a lot of mistakes.

 

Team needs to learn how not to rely on our goalies so much. Demko is a 2nd year player that's still developing and Holtby will play good if he has competent D in front of him.

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