[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Toronto Maple Laffs | February 4, 2021 | 4 p.m. PT | SNP

[Honky Cat]

1 minute ago, vannuck59 said:

What a crock of crap 

Benning could have kept Toffoli and Tanev and Markstrom but picked a safer route .

There was enough room cape wise do all this. 

Toffoli , Tanev and Markstrom = $14,750,000 cap 

Do not sign Holtby , Schmidt, Virtanen , $12,800,000 . Buy out Bartschi move Eriksson and Roussel  to the minors. savings of over 3 Mill.

So dont tell me he could not aford it . 

Jim's problem is he cant think out side of the box . Signing our young stars could be solved next year. Hughes is showing how much he misses Tanev . Talking to Calgary fans they are saying Tanev is there second best D man. And Markstrom is God.

Jim may be a good scout but is the poorest GM at managing his assets. 

These moves he made and didnt will get him fired this year.

This is the worst team I have seen in a long time. And its going to get real ugly.

 

You're misinformed, the Canucks were going to lose a goaltending asset either way

The cap was not the reason Markstrom left.

[vannuck59]

Just now, Honky Cat said:

You're misinformed, the Canucks were going to lose a goaltending asset either way

The cap was not the reason Markstrom left.

Not Misinformed Markstrom could have played and we could have traded Demco or made a deal with Seattle ether way we could have kept him.

[TNucks1]

36 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

I like the player.. he knew hes #1 for trade so wanted what he deserves. . Good player good kid

Imo

still think he is the number one peice ina trade once they realize they need to get rid of one of there players to fix there defense.

[lmm]

1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

Benn has as many points as Schmidt so far this season in half the amount of games.

 

We need much more out of Schmidt offensively (and defensively).

ya and Edmunson cost Montreal a 5th and costs $3.5 M

[vannuck59]

7 minutes ago, lmm said:

ya and Edmunson cost Montreal a 5th and costs $3.5 M

Once again Benning is asleep at the wheel.

[DownUndaCanuck]

31 minutes ago, vannuck59 said:

What a crock of crap 

Benning could have kept Toffoli and Tanev and Markstrom but picked a safer route .

There was enough room cap wise do all this. 

Toffoli , Tanev and Markstrom = $14,750,000 cap 

Do not sign Holtby , Schmidt, Virtanen , $12,800,000 . Buy out Bartschi move Eriksson and Roussel  to the minors. savings of over 3 Mill.

So dont tell me he could not aford it . 

Jim's problem is he cant think out side of the box . Signing our young stars could be solved next year. Hughes is showing how much he misses Tanev . Talking to Calgary fans they are saying Tanev is there second best D man. And Markstrom is God.

Jim may be a good scout but is the poorest GM at managing his assets. 

These moves he made and didnt will get him fired this year.

This is the worst team I have seen in a long time. And its going to get real ugly.

 

Term is everything. The ED affects everything. Schmidt is younger and to be fair, was better all around than Tanev (before this season...) and his contract will age better than an older, fragile Tanev. Holtby's Seattle-exposed whereas Marky wanted protection and has an Erikkson-like contract which won't age well.

 

Probs to JB for making the unpopular moves and letting players in their prime leave for the better of this team's future. He learned from the Eriksson mistake.

 

Toffoli could have been saved, as easy as moving Pearson or Roussel out, but nobody is biting on trades right now because of the flat cap and ED so don't fault him on "moving money out" because it's the worst time to do it. I understand why he wanted to try one more year with JV and Gaudette but now he's seen that those experiments aren't working. 

 

If the off season happened again, he'd do it all again, doesn't really have a better option.

[Dumb Nuck]

1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said:

TaKe OuT oUr GoOd GaMeS aNd We LoOk WoRsE

Well, all stats in, with just under 25% of our games against the worst team in the league we still have more goals against than for and that’s counting the GoOd GaMeS.

[Nuxfanabroad]

There seems to be a lot of navel-gazing, hand-wringing & worrying going on 'round here. Why worry about things beyond one's control ?

 

Pro sport is entertainment. If it's not enjoyable, what's the point?

 

Find some alternative hobbies/activities & passions. Then every day is filled/interesting, until one day, the team is rolling again. Then you have to make some available time, to enjoy cheering on a winner.

[vannuck59]

1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Term is everything. The ED affects everything. Schmidt is younger and to be fair, was better all around than Tanev (before this season...) and his contract will age better than an older, fragile Tanev. Holtby's Seattle-exposed whereas Marky wanted protection and has an Erikkson-like contract which won't age well.

 

Probs to JB for making the unpopular moves and letting players in their prime leave for the better of this team's future. He learned from the Eriksson mistake.

 

Toffoli could have been saved, as easy as moving Pearson or Roussel out, but nobody is biting on trades right now because of the flat cap and ED so don't fault him on "moving money out" because it's the worst time to do it. I understand why he wanted to try one more year with JV and Gaudette but now he's seen that those experiments aren't working. 

 

If the off season happened again, he'd do it all again, doesn't really have a better option.

Realy wow Markstrom was our MVP or did you forget  and will play till he is 37 lots of goalies play well until then, Fleury from Vegas is one. Tanev is Calgary's second best D man and could be moved at any time in the future. Toffoli could easily been kept but Jim's crystal ball was better? Come on face it JB had many options but took the chicken route. I'm not drinking Jim's cool aid . Eriksson could be move but Jim doesn't have the Balls to do it.

[cuporbust]

[DownUndaCanuck]

1 minute ago, vannuck59 said:

Realy wow Markstrom was our MVP or did you forget  and will play till he is 37 lots of goalies play well until then, Fleury from Vegas is one. Tanev is Calgary's second best D man and could be moved at any time in the future. Toffoli could easily been kept but Jim's crystal ball was better? Come on face it JB had many options but took the chicken route. I'm not drinking Jim's cool aid . Eriksson could be move but Jim doesn't have the Balls to do it.

Who are you going to trade Eriksson's 6M to in a covid flat cap to Mr. GM? If you can do it you'd become the mayor.

 

Sign Marky and we let Demko get snatched by Seattle? 

Sign Tanev to 4.5M x 5 years and he's injured for half of it?

Sign Toffoli for 4M x 4 years and how do we get that 4M in cap space? Delete Eriksson again? Try and trade a useless Roussel and Virtanen to who? 

 

I'm sure JB was on the phone to every team but no one wants to pick up bottom 6 expensive players, especially with the flat cap.

[vannuck59]

4 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

There seems to be a lot of navel-gazing, hand-wringing & worrying going on 'round here. Why worry about things beyond one's control ?

 

Pro sport is entertainment. If it's not enjoyable, what's the point?

 

Find some alternative hobbies/activities & passions. Then every day is filled/interesting, until one day, the team is rolling again. Then you have to make some available time, to enjoy cheering on a winner.

No its 51 years with out a cup and counting. Fan pressure can make owners do amazing things.

[vannuck59]

14 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Who are you going to trade Eriksson's 6M to in a covid flat cap to Mr. GM? If you can do it you'd become the mayor.

 

Sign Marky and we let Demko get snatched by Seattle? 

Sign Tanev to 4.5M x 5 years and he's injured for half of it?

Sign Toffoli for 4M x 4 years and how do we get that 4M in cap space? Delete Eriksson again? Try and trade a useless Roussel and Virtanen to who? 

 

I'm sure JB was on the phone to every team but no one wants to pick up bottom 6 expensive players, especially with the flat cap.

No make a deal with Seattle. 

The difference between keeping Toffoli Tanev and Markstrom and not was 2 million, no Holtby no Schmidt and no Virtanen. Hmmm I wonder if we would have been better off.

Edited February 4, 2021 by vannuck59

[TNucks1]

@cuporbust 

lol frig off barb

[vannuck59]

People were all drinking JB's cool aid there was lots of options. by scratching Virtanen we are building up a lot of value . We shall see after the next ten games.

[canuktravella]

1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

Not Misinformed Markstrom could have played and we could have traded Demco or made a deal with Seattle ether way we could have kept him.

 benning picked younger goalie in demko who committed robbery in playoffs and was nhl player of week last week markey would be picked by expansion draft   so ya be ning made right choice 

[vannuck59]

1 minute ago, canuktravella said:

 benning picked younger goalie in demko who committed robbery in playoffs and was nhl player of week last week markey would be picked by expansion draft   so ya be ning made right choice 

You dont know that and Benning could have kept them both ether traded Demco at the trade dead line or made a deal with Seattle . Ether way at least we could have gotten some assets for Demco In a trade.

[DownUndaCanuck]

2 minutes ago, vannuck59 said:

You dont know that and Benning could have kept them both ether traded Demco at the trade dead line or made a deal with Seattle . Ether way at least we could have gotten some assets for Demco In a trade.

"Make a deal" isn't that easy, we have to give something up and to be honest we only have 2 defencemen we can expose right now - Myers and Schmidt, so it would probably be one of them, so we end up losing a great top 4 defenceman anyway.

 

Also if I were Seattle, no deal is worth taking Demko, he's a future star goalie, a 1st round pick isn't even worth that in today's NHL.

 

JB had it tough but if he did anything differently this team's future would have been compromised big time.

[N4ZZY]

I don't have a ton of confidence that we will win tomorrow. LOL. 

 

Not with the way they played against Montréal the other day. 

 

I guess we'll see. 

 

4-1 Leaves.

 

[N4ZZY]

4 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

"Make a deal" isn't that easy, we have to give something up and to be honest we only have 2 defencemen we can expose right now - Myers and Schmidt, so it would probably be one of them, so we end up losing a great top 4 defenceman anyway.

 

Also if I were Seattle, no deal is worth taking Demko, he's a future star goalie, a 1st round pick isn't even worth that in today's NHL.

 

JB had it tough but if he did anything differently this team's future would have been compromised big time.

To be fair, I know it would be tough. But between Schmidt and Myers. I'd protect Schmidt over Myers. Schmidt is a little cheaper, and I don't think his contract is as long right? 

 

Still losing a top four defenseman though.