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10 minutes ago, SILLY GOOSE said:

That's true but puck pressure is also a major part of this teams success.  

I think they are too slow of a team to apply a ton of puck pressure which is a big problem. We have no players with amazing speed. Our whole team is filled with players with the same amount of speed. You have to be fast to put pressure on the opposing team and they look like they have cinder blocks tied to their ankles. The bottom two lines are especially slow to every puck but right now the whole team just looks slow. That needs to be addressed next year somehow. Maybe it’s a conditioning issue.

 

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@oldnews I really like Chatfield's game. For all the talk about losing a heart and soul / all out effort guy in Stretcher, I think they have something in JC.  It's too bad his NHL debut has to be when the team is at its worse.

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4 minutes ago, Odd. said:

Quickly losing interest in this team. Don't know why I should watch 3 hours of the same old dog$&!# hockey. Team looks uninterested.

this screams bandwagoner fan to me. If your a fan of the team you watch them thru the good, bad and the ugly. You can also record and watch it skipping commercial etc to cut down on time.

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4 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

I think they are too slow of a team to apply a ton of puck pressure which is a big problem. We have no players with amazing speed. Our whole team is filled with players with the same amount of speed. You have to be fast to put pressure on the opposing team and they look like they have cinder blocks tied to their ankles. The bottom two lines are especially slow to every puck but right now the whole team just looks slow. That needs to be addressed next year some how. Maybe it’s a conditioning issue.

 

we have speed, we just chose not to ice some of that speed last night... Virtanen, macEwen both have speed they just need a coach who trusts them or sees their speed and puts them in and preaches that they play like Clamato!

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3 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

I think they are too slow of a team to apply a ton of puck pressure which is a big problem. We have no players with amazing speed. Our whole team is filled with players with the same amount of speed. You have to be fast to put pressure on the opposing team and they look like they have cinder blocks tied to their ankles. The bottom two lines are especially slow to every puck but right now the whole team just looks slow. That needs to be addressed next year some how. Maybe it’s a conditioning issue.

 

I mentioned in a previous post the same thing.  The vet loaded line up is a kiss of death, esp. when they can't execute anyways.  You need more Nils/Chatfield's in the line up to generate SOME turnovers.  TOR is basically holding on to the puck with ease.

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3 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

I think they are too slow of a team to apply a ton of puck pressure which is a big problem. We have no players with amazing speed. Our whole team is filled with players with the same amount of speed. You have to be fast to put pressure on the opposing team and they look like they have cinder blocks tied to their ankles. The bottom two lines are especially slow to every puck but right now the whole team just looks slow. That needs to be addressed next year some how. Maybe it’s a conditioning issue.

 

Well that’s where I would argue fatigue is playing a factor.

 

For a team that relies heavily on a strong forecheck and cycle, if you’re getting beaten to the puck time and time again it makes it almost impossible to generate offense and sustain pressure.

 

Im seeing a team that is a step behind all game. Sometimes that 10% difference in energy makes all the difference.

 

Not trying to make excuses because there are also other factors contributing, but I think fatigue is exacerbating the problem.

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4 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

this screams bandwagoner fan to me. If your a fan of the team you watch them thru the good, bad and the ugly. You can also record and watch it skipping commercial etc to cut down on time.

You can also record and watch it skipping commercials etc and stop watching when they get three goals down to cut down on time.      :sadno:

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55 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said:

To be fair: I think you put too much weight on Horvat's shoulders. Jim has mentioned several times that Canucks have a leadership group with guys like Edler, Sutter, Miller and Horvat. They have to act collectively as a group to get this team going.

Why have a captain then? 

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2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Why have a captain then? 

Leadership comes more from one player and too much stock is put into a letter on a sweater. 

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1 hour ago, DIBdaQUIB said:

Leafs fans wearing paper bags on their heads.

Montreal fans booing their team off the ice. 

 

These happened within the last few years. 

 

Knowledgeable fans know when the product on the ice is garbage and when management  and players underperform.  Lots of FA players have expressed a desire to play in  a Canadian market because of the passionate fans versus some of the lobotomized American markets.

 

Your assault on fans as a reason for players decisions is just deflecting from the mess this team is in right now.  

Re: Canadian teams, it’s been going on 30 years since Montreal won and we’ve only seen a Canadian team in the finals... five times?   Canada should have that many or more cups based on straight odds since we make up more than 20% of the league. Toronto can’t even get out of the first round. 
 

That’s the point and even then, TO and MTL get a lot more positive national coverage than we do. 

I actually understand where the media guys are coming from - their jobs are being cut left right and centre and they get about ten times as many clicks on a negative piece than a positive one.  Gotta put food on the table.  They get so defensive about being negative that you know it’s intentional though.  If that was my job I’d do it too.

 

“Knowledgeable” doesn’t mean hyper critical, negative and entitled which is the issue I have with the outspoken media / fans in BC. Too worried about holding the team “accountable” (lol) when record and revenue already do a much better job of that. 
 

Meanwhile, creating a positive atmosphere (supported by sports psychology) is where fans actually have some real influence and instead it swings in the opposite direction to stick it to management or whatever. It always involves choosing a player or two to crap all over which in the hockey world of guaranteed contracts is super useful. Meanwhile, the Owner doesn’t give a wet fart as long as people are showing up to games.  
 

It’s a shame (that/if) this young core is getting caught up in that because it’s a promising group. It kind of makes sense though - fans in arena cheer a win regardless - but without that the only interaction they’re getting is the wet blanket brigade revelling in the team’s struggles on Twitter.  
 

Again, I’m not targeting CDC here which generally trends positive and posters are fans, not wannabe podcasters stroking their egos. Nor am I saying the team doesn’t deserve criticism given their embarrassing start to the season.  Just the overall habits of media / social media fans that surround this hockey team.   It’s hard to measure how much of an impact it has but it certainly isn’t positive.

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2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Why have a captain then? 

Bo will lead by example.

 

He’s the guy I’m least worried about. Just need a game like Detroit last season when he inspired his teammates.

 

Thats what it’s gonna take right now. Stepping up each individuals game to be better and dragging everyone else along.

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6 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Well that’s where I would argue fatigue is playing a factor.

 

For a team that relies heavily on a strong forecheck and cycle, if you’re getting beaten to the puck time and time again it makes it almost impossible to generate offense and sustain pressure.

 

Im seeing a team that is a step behind all game. Sometimes that 10% difference in energy makes all the difference.

 

Not trying to make excuses because there are also other factors contributing, but I think fatigue is exacerbating the problem.

They have been in the same location for four days and the same time zone for a couple of weeks now. They have also had breaks in between those games. Fatigue cannot be an excuse and it is still early in the season. Yes they have played more games but it’s not like they have had to travel like they would have in years past. I don’t buy the fatigue factor. I would if they had been travelling beforehand like crazy. If they are tired now we are in big trouble for the rest of the year.

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1 minute ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

They have been in the location for four days and have had breaks in between those games. Fatigue cannot be an excuse and it is still early in the season. Yes they have played more games but it’s not like they have had to travel like they would have in years past. I don’t buy the fatigue factor. I would if they had been travelling beforehand like crazy.

Fatigue snowballs and it’s not like one day off really gives a player enough time to recover.

 

Fatigue is definitely playing a part. They are not skating like they did earlier in the season and the condensed schedule is the obvious reason.

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9 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

we have speed, we just chose not to ice some of that speed last night... Virtanen, macEwen both have speed they just need a coach who trusts them or sees their speed and puts them in and preaches that they play like Clamato!

I want them to trade gaudette and get Bennett somehow and ice the line of virtanen Bennett and big mack. I think that’s a line you don’t mess with. It’s fast, hard hitting, potential to pop in some goals too. 

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8 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Fatigue snowballs and it’s not like one day off really gives a player enough time to recover.

 

Fatigue is definitely playing a part. They are not skating like they did earlier in the season and the condensed schedule is the obvious reason.

They were bleeding goals like crazy in the beginning of the year too. I didn’t see a ton of speed then either which is why a lot of fans are frustrated. The way they have been playing since the beginning of the year is the same way they have been playing now. Nothing has changed. There has been no improvement. They have actually gotten worse. I don’t know which games you were watching where you thought wow they look fast tonight. If that were the case we wouldn’t have 9 losses on the season.Brutal losses at that. Remember three of those wins were against Ottawa. They make everyone else look like cup contenders. So really we are 3 and 9 against everyone else.

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2 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

They were bleeding goals like crazy in the beginning of the year. I didn’t see a ton of speed then either which is why a lot of fans are frustrated. The way they have been playing since the beginning of the year is the same way they have been playing now. Nothing has changed. There has been no improvement. They have actually gotten worse. I don’t know which games you were watching where you thought wow they look fast tonight. If that were the case we wouldn’t have 9 losses. Brutal losses at that.

Don’t agree.

 

Poor special teams and below average goaltending was the problem early on.

 

Im not seeing the same hustle as early on.

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11 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Well that’s where I would argue fatigue is playing a factor.

 

For a team that relies heavily on a strong forecheck and cycle, if you’re getting beaten to the puck time and time again it makes it almost impossible to generate offense and sustain pressure.

 

Im seeing a team that is a step behind all game. Sometimes that 10% difference in energy makes all the difference.

 

Not trying to make excuses because there are also other factors contributing, but I think fatigue is exacerbating the problem.

We haven't played with a strong forecheck since game one tho...that is the problem. I will never stand down on my fact that the schedule aka fatigue is an issue.

 

We have 2 capable G's who can can put in net, we have a taxi squad where we can inject players for back to back night games if need be. Travel is cut down by playing only in Canada. Playing multiple games in the same city NEVER happens during a regular season on in the playoffs.

 

If they are so fatigued at playing 20 min a night and only a quarter thru the season...I think we got a whole batch of unfit, cardio deprived athletes...

 

Fact is, our system needs to be fixed and since our coaches can't seem to recognize that we should do a clean sweep behind the bench, then you can address management issues in the off season. But, put the kids with coaches who can adapt and put them on the right track to finish this season and not wait till next year to do so. All athletes have a best before date and while many of our good players are young you still don't want to waste a single year imo

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Canucks are worst in the league in GA

... but first int eh league in GF

 

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4 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

We haven't played with a strong forecheck since game one tho...that is the problem. I will never stand down on my fact that the schedule aka fatigue is an issue.

 

We have 2 capable G's who can can put in net, we have a taxi squad where we can inject players for back to back night games if need be. Travel is cut down by playing only in Canada. Playing multiple games in the same city NEVER happens during a regular season on in the playoffs.

 

If they are so fatigued at playing 20 min a night and only a quarter thru the season...I think we got a whole batch of unfit, cardio deprived athletes...

 

Fact is, our system needs to be fixed and since our coaches can't seem to recognize that we should do a clean sweep behind the bench, then you can address management issues in the off season. But, put the kids with coaches who can adapt and put them on the right track to finish this season and not wait till next year to do so. All athletes have a best before date and while many of our good players are young you still don't want to waste a single year imo

Exactly and can we actually say they put in a full 60 in most of those games? Some games it looked like they only played hard for ten minutes of a game. So I agree fatigue should not be an issue. Remember they had four months off. When will they ever get that amount of time off again? They all look unfit because of that time off but they should be well rested and have energy.

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