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[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Toronto Maple Laffs | February 8, 2021 | 4 p.m. PT | TVAS, SNP

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[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Toronto Maple Leafs | Feb. 08, 2021   Link to Game Summary   ———   FULL REPLAY | Elias Pettersson's 1-1 Goal  

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Everyone pretty much here is in panic mode.Stop it,unless you can go out and buy a team.fire everyon,make owner sell team,fire coach Gm y’all sound like a bunch of stupid whiners,fragile people who can’t take adversity.we suck atm but we haven’t gelled with new team yet ffs people respect the process,I know losing suckS but it’s a necessary step,hang in there mofos!you don’t think Toronto lost in their approach?

 

 

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9 minutes ago, EddieVedder said:

I love Petey and hes our franchise centre but he doesnt have the same physical skills as Mac.  I know it will hurt fans hearing it but Hughes will never be a Makar and Byram has the ability to be even better than Makar.  

Interesting... I don't see Byram's offensive upside as good as Makar.

 

On the defensive side of the puck? or both? 

 

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We have been here before, As an old guy on this board i get the sense we need to calm things down.

 

This is all very similar to what happened about 30 years ago.  The period leading up to the Stanley Cup final 94 team started with the team taking a big step forward in 89. Rookie Linden plus a group of fantastic role players got the team to the playoffs and took the cup winning flames to 7 games.  That was the best the team had looked in 5 years.  Reminds me of how this current team took a step forward in the playoff bubble after 4 or 5 years of misery. We had our hopes up in both periods!

 

The Canucks then took two steps back in 90 and 91. 

 

The analogy here is that right now are like we were from 90 to 91. At the time, just like now, it was a disappointing period after getting our hopes up from making the playoffs and coming within a goal post of eliminating a stanley cup calibre team (Calgary).  The team also lost a key piece  in 90- Paul Reinhart . It felt like he left a big hole on the roster.  Reminds me of the holes  Tanev and Marky seem to have left now.

 

The coach was Bob McCammon.  He was even a Jack Adams runner up in 89.  In 91 the team was in a losing streak and there was one particular game where everyone knew McCammon would get canned.  The team played as hard as they could, they even outplayed the other team for the most part, but they lost and Bob got fired.  The team simply was not good enough. 

 

Pat Quinn took over.

 

In 91-92 Bure joined the team and Quinn started to rebuild the D and brought in the right mix of players.  After a couple years they eventually made it to game 7 of the 1994 stanley cup final.

 

What I learned from that period:

 

1) It wasnt McCammon's fault the team regressed  in the early 90s- the team needed more pieces. It wasnt clear until we got the better rosters (92-94) to compare what McCammon had to work with in retrospect. I get the same sense here - this isnt all on Green.

 

2)There was a 5 year period leading up to the 94 team where there were 1 step forward 2 steps back at some points. Important players came and went. I get the same sense here.  We moved forward now we are going to step back.  As in the early 90s this might be a pause before we jump ahead again.

 

We could draft a stud d man this year and eventually add Podz to the roster..., and whoever the GM is could make the 3 or 4 changes probably needed to put this team over the top in the next 2- 3 years.  It happened before it can happen again - we just need to zoom out a little.

 

I dont think Green survives beyond this year - but when its all said and done i think we will look back and see him as another stepping stone in the process where he will be the casualty of circumstance- the roster is still missing key pieces and some key pieces were moved - the same as it was in 91 when McCammon got canned.

 

Its all a process.  I think this roster has more to work with than what Quinn had to work with in 91.  

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, EddieVedder said:

I love Petey and hes our franchise centre but he doesnt have the same physical skills as Mac.  I know it will hurt fans hearing it but Hughes will never be a Makar and Byram has the ability to be even better than Makar.  

Canucks never had a chance to pick any of those players but the real question is - will Colorado be able to convince them to stay ?

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Well, I give the boys credit because this was the best game they've played since the Winnipeg game.  This was a good team effort and we were unlucky (Miller's crossbar, Andersen's save off Bailey) against a very good team (as are the Canadiens).  The Leafs really picked it up in the third.

 

I've said this before (before the season started), this is a very tough Division and I doubt, sorry fans, we make the playoffs.  However, I will continue to watch as I have for 50 years and I keep hoping they prove me wrong.  I'm a lifer.  I've said this from the beginning of the season, I'll say it again, I doubt this team will make the playoffs this year.  I'm already hoping for a high first round draft pick and hoping for next year.  I've supported Benning but not this year and I think we need a change.  Rebuild time (not retool).  Keep Horvat, Petterson, Hoglander, Juolevi and Hughes.

 

Again, I hope the boys prove me wrong and push for a playoff spot.    

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Can't blame Schmidt for that kick out to Rielly, just bad luck that he happened to be there
Nice snipe by Petey, at least he's still scoring (and Miller almost had one too, late in the third)
Great to see them outshoot the Leafs, result just wasn't there

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How do they give Matthews so much room for his goal?  On a team where Horvat's been so successful as the bumper, they should know that they can't just let him pivot back and get space, but they need to engage him.
Hughes just skated to a corner and got outmuscled to lose the puck... what was he thinking

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My observation on this past couple of weeks, the Canucks look tired and under-practiced.

 

<Insert "they're a crappy team", "poor coaching", "bad GM", etc comments here. This being said, they can also be a tired, crappy team, yes?>

 

Looking at this latest series against the Leafs, the Canucks were finishing 6 games in 11 nights, with 3 travel days in there. Toronto had 4 continuous days off followed by 3 games in 5 nights off vs the Canucks.

 

<Insert "everybody has a tough schedule" here>

 

I don't mention this for purposes of making excuses for the team, but rather to point out that, assuming the Canucks are still around in the playoff hunt, they have the chance of getting in a few days of practice and healing up at the end of this month prior to flying to Winnipeg, and the Canucks also have a span of 2 games in 11 nights in March (all of them in Vancouver), so if there's a chance that they can still make some noise then this is when it could happen... assuming they are still in the hunt for the playoffs.

 

                                                               regards,  G.

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1 minute ago, Gollumpus said:

My observation on this past couple of weeks, the Canucks look tired and under-practiced.

 

<Insert "they're a crappy team", "poor coaching", "bad GM", etc comments here. This being said, they can also be a tired, crappy team, yes?>

 

Looking at this latest series against the Leafs, the Canucks were finishing 6 games in 11 nights, with 3 travel days in there. Toronto had 4 continuous days off followed by 3 games in 5 nights off vs the Canucks.

 

<Insert "everybody has a tough schedule" here>

 

I don't mention this for purposes of making excuses for the team, but rather to point out that, assuming the Canucks are still around in the playoff hunt, they have the chance of getting in a few days of practice and healing up at the end of this month prior to flying to Winnipeg, and the Canucks also have a span of 2 games in 11 nights in March (all of them in Vancouver), so if there's a chance that they can still make some noise then this is when it could happen... assuming they are still in the hunt for the playoffs.

 

                                                               regards,  G.

Is it evil of me to hope the Flames get Covid just so the Canucks can reset?

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1 minute ago, Gollumpus said:

My observation on this past couple of weeks, the Canucks look tired and under-practiced.

 

<Insert "they're a crappy team", "poor coaching", "bad GM", etc comments here. This being said, they can also be a tired, crappy team, yes?>

 

Looking at this latest series against the Leafs, the Canucks were finishing 6 games in 11 nights, with 3 travel days in there. Toronto had 4 continuous days off followed by 3 games in 5 nights off vs the Canucks.

 

<Insert "everybody has a tough schedule" here>

 

I don't mention this for purposes of making excuses for the team, but rather to point out that, assuming the Canucks are still around in the playoff hunt, they have the chance of getting in a few days of practice and healing up at the end of this month prior to flying to Winnipeg, and the Canucks also have a span of 2 games in 11 nights in March (all of them in Vancouver), so if there's a chance that they can still make some noise then this is when it could happen... assuming they are still in the hunt for the playoffs.

 

                                                               regards,  G.

That’s the spirit G could be to our advantage

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1 hour ago, kilgore said:

At least he wouldn't try and get himself out of it by throwing out the last of our draft picks, and promising prospects to get another foundational rental.  It will be a "precision" sentence. Next GM will have to be very precise in his moves, no more bad mistakes.

Yes, and the owners need to get out of the way.  Rebuild and no more lost picks and expensive free agents (Linden was right).

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