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12 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Jake has had many more chances to prove himself at the NHL level, not sure the comparison really make sense. At this point, Jakes is responsible for his play. 

I agree he has not been great but he has been put through the ringer with Green and when he gets a chance its usually very limited ice time and with different linemates 

 

its hard to get any traction

 

yes i am disappointed but there is potential there thats why any team with good coaching would be interested in him 

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2 minutes ago, canuck2288 said:

I agree he has not been great but he has been put through the ringer with Green and when he gets a chance its usually very limited ice time and with different linemates 

 

its hard to get any traction

 

yes i am disappointed but there is potential there thats why any team with good coaching would be interested in him 

if Jake ever puts it together it won't be here. I do hope he does well tho, I don't have a hate on him at all like some here do. 

 

But yes, I do wonder what better coaching could have done too.

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2 minutes ago, Violator said:

I still don't think we should give up on him stupid coaching has made his development worse .

 

But I guess that means it will be better to let him walk.

I think Jake is a bit of a victim of the imo idiotic CHL rules. Jake would have benefitted greatly from being in the AHL his first year. 

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2 minutes ago, Violator said:

I still don't think we should give up on him stupid coaching has made his development worse .

 

But I guess that means it will be better to let him walk.

We all know Green is a goner

 

What 4  year sub 500 coach is going to get extended? Not to mention this year’s tire fire 

 

we will have a new guy 

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30 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Jake has had many more chances to prove himself at the NHL level, not sure the comparison really make sense. At this point, Jakes is responsible for his play. 

I answered another post. So it’s better you talk about this with him.

 

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18 minutes ago, Provost said:

I think everyone knows what Green expects of Jake at this point.  
He has said that they have at down with Virtanen many many times and that they told him exactly what do do.


Green has said it in press conferences at least a dozen times.  “We need Jake to be consistent and use his size and speed to drive to the net, good things will happen if he does that”.

 

Cut to the next game and Jake using his size and speed to fend off defenders, drive to the net, and score.

 

Then cut to the next 10 games where Jake sees a defender between him and the net, so cuts away to the perimeter... circles behind the net with the puck, and passes it to the opposition”. 
 

Rinse, Repeat for 7 seasons.

As I said to Jimmy, better talk to DeNiro about this...

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1 hour ago, Timråfan said:

This is what Dahlen spoke about the situation at Utica. So if the situation is the same Green using AHL tactics in NHL.

A lack of communication is never good

 

What kind of player is Dahlen. Why does he continue to play Allsvenskan istead of stiffer competition in the SHL. What’s he trying to prove, I don’t get it 

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Sportsnet: Elliotte Friedman on Headlines on the Canucks and Ducks trade speculation involving Virtanen.

** NHLRumors.com transcription

“Well it’s been kind of something that has been talked about all week is Jake Virtanen and the Anaheim Ducks. They’ve been dance partners with each other, trying to see if something can fit, and Vancouver twitter did it’s thing today blowing it into a one-for-one deal with Danton Heinen. Right now as it stands at 8:50 PM Eastern Time on Saturday night, I think it’s more not likely than likely that this happens.

Quite simply it’s the salary. This is actual cash and not cap hit and the numbers just have to match. The Ducks and Canucks have been trying to work to see what else they could do in this deal to make it work so they could complete it. But as it stands on Saturday night it’s not sounding optimistic. Although they have tried before, all week, and they may try again.”

sounds like this deal ain't happen.

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4 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said:

Sportsnet: Elliotte Friedman on Headlines on the Canucks and Ducks trade speculation involving Virtanen.

** NHLRumors.com transcription

“Well it’s been kind of something that has been talked about all week is Jake Virtanen and the Anaheim Ducks. They’ve been dance partners with each other, trying to see if something can fit, and Vancouver twitter did it’s thing today blowing it into a one-for-one deal with Danton Heinen. Right now as it stands at 8:50 PM Eastern Time on Saturday night, I think it’s more not likely than likely that this happens.

Quite simply it’s the salary. This is actual cash and not cap hit and the numbers just have to match. The Ducks and Canucks have been trying to work to see what else they could do in this deal to make it work so they could complete it. But as it stands on Saturday night it’s not sounding optimistic. Although they have tried before, all week, and they may try again.”

sounds like this deal ain't happen.

dave chappelle omg GIF

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43 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I think Jake is a bit of a victim of the imo idiotic CHL rules. Jake would have benefitted greatly from being in the AHL his first year. 

Canucks had no solid depth thus the reason why they pushed him to the show way to early.

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13 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Lol trading in division, what could go wrong?

 

Watch Anaheim get the best out of Jake and it comes back to haunt us.

So...how would you about trading, I dunno... Quinn Hughes to say...LA

 

:bigblush:

 

*Just busting your chops a bit no harm intended*

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1 hour ago, canuck2288 said:

I agree he has not been great but he has been put through the ringer with Green and when he gets a chance its usually very limited ice time and with different linemates 

 

its hard to get any traction

 

yes i am disappointed but there is potential there thats why any team with good coaching would be interested in him 

 

58 minutes ago, Violator said:

I still don't think we should give up on him stupid coaching has made his development worse .

 

But I guess that means it will be better to let him walk.

Does anybody remember the history between Jake and Green?  Green spent a lot of one on one time holding Jakes hand in Utica.  They showed him film of the way they wanted him to play.  Basically drew him a picture and tried to build him up. 

 

Look, if Jake is dumb as a bag of hammers, don't hang it on Green.  He's tired of a player who was spoon fed and still doesn't get it.  I don't blame him a bit.

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42 minutes ago, Provost said:

Am I missing something?  You made a claim that Green isn't communicating with Virtanen by making some tenuous connection that Dahlen claimed his AHL coach (not Green by the way) didn't communicate with him enough.

Not only was Green NOT Dahlen's coach... but Dahlen has since flopped out of the AHL with his NEW team and coach and is now playing in a 2nd tier Swedish league.... so it seems pretty clear that there is more keeping him out of the NHL than one coach not talking with him enough.

There is no way to correlate the two things at all really, and I have no idea why messaging DeNiro for a claim you are making would be appropriate.  If he thinks the same as you, then he can read my response to your claim.

Iirc he didn't do well with his other NHL team either.

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23 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said:

Sportsnet: Elliotte Friedman on Headlines on the Canucks and Ducks trade speculation involving Virtanen.

** NHLRumors.com transcription

“Well it’s been kind of something that has been talked about all week is Jake Virtanen and the Anaheim Ducks. They’ve been dance partners with each other, trying to see if something can fit, and Vancouver twitter did it’s thing today blowing it into a one-for-one deal with Danton Heinen. Right now as it stands at 8:50 PM Eastern Time on Saturday night, I think it’s more not likely than likely that this happens.

Quite simply it’s the salary. This is actual cash and not cap hit and the numbers just have to match. The Ducks and Canucks have been trying to work to see what else they could do in this deal to make it work so they could complete it. But as it stands on Saturday night it’s not sounding optimistic. Although they have tried before, all week, and they may try again.”

sounds like this deal ain't happen.

So what is Friedman going to do with his HNIC air time if not dwell in this speculation? I highly doubt JB or Anaheim bring Eliotte into their inner circles. 

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3 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

 

Does anybody remember the history between Jake and Green?  Green spent a lot of one on one time holding Jakes hand in Utica.  They showed him film of the way they wanted him to play.  Basically drew him a picture and tried to build him up. 

 

Look, if Jake is dumb as a bag of hammers, don't hang it on Green.  He's tired of a player who was spoon fed and still doesn't get it.  I don't blame him a bit.

Let’s revisit it in a few years and see who was completely incorrect 

 

for the record, Green is incapable of showing anybody the right way to play. Name 1 success story from his time in Utica. 
 

no clue how Green’s cult rationalizes his existence as a head coach when he frankly has a horrible record. Never taken a team to a title at any level if hockey and somehow now he is a star at developing players?

 

tell that to Jake, Gauds, Goldy  and the list goes on 

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