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UPDATE: Now I get it. Carry on. 

 1 hour ago, canuktravella said:

we own their rights til they are ufa in 5-6 yrs we probably signthem 8 yrs they are going no where

 

 

I haven't found a topic on this, so here goes.

The discussion about these guys' future always seem to assume that they want to stay, given enough lucrative contracts. That there is an established truth. I'm a sucker for loyalty, but can't see any reason for that. I mean, would you stay here if in their position? Why? 

I may have missed something. Maybe they've stated a wish to be a part of Vancouver for a long time. If so, great. If not, I would like to see a broader discussion about the team Anno Domini EPQHELCE (EP QH Entry-Level Contract Ending).  Pronounced i-pi-kju-el-tjee :)

 

GCG!

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19 minutes ago, _Henrik_ said:

I haven't found a topic on this, so here goes.

The discussion about these guys' future always seem to assume that they want to stay, given enough lucrative contracts. That there is an established truth. I'm a sucker for loyalty, but can't see any reason for that. I mean, would you stay here if in their position? Why? 

I may have missed something. Maybe they've stated a wish to be a part of Vancouver for a long time. If so, great. If not, I would like to see a broader discussion about the team Anno Domini EPQHELCE (EP QH Entry-Level Contract Ending).  Pronounced i-pi-kju-el-tjee :)

 

GCG!

You don't think that Hughes and Pettersson want to stay in Vancouver? 

 

Hockey is a business at the end of the day. I think this current management isn't going to be around when negotiations begin for Hughes and Pettersson. I think the reality is that both of these players know and understand that players move around all the time. That can't be the reason for why they're not going to stay here. Each player will have to decide what they want to do. With that being said, I think Petey and Hughes will be Canucks for a very long time. Maybe even life-time Canucks. This does depend on the role of management. Continue pissing off your players, and well, all bets are off. 

 

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“Google it.”

 

That’s the advice Elias Pettersson offered up to a reporter in Ottawa for proof that his dream was not only to play in the NHL, but play in Vancouver, for the Canucks.

 

“This has always been my dream, what I’ve always been working for growing up. Now I’m here, living my dream,” Pettersson said following the Canucks’ 4-3 overtime win against the Senators.

 

A reporter followed up with asking him which team he dreamed of playing for. Pettersson’s response? “Vancouver.”

 

Indeed, there is visual evidence available online from a story written by Swedish newspaper Expressen last April.

The photo features a five-year-old Pettersson with a blonde mullet and a Vancouver t-shirt, giving double peace signs to the camera. He’s posing behind a birthday cake, which of course was hockey-themed.

 

 Image result for elias pettersson baby

 

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pettersson-kid-vancouver-shirt-canucks

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Money talks and Aquaman's got a fat chequebook.

 

Anything else is just crossing the Ts and dotting the Is.

 

Petey and Huggy will have the Brinks truck backed up to their door to ENSURE that they are going to be anchoring the core of the Canucks first (and second?) Stanley Cup winning roster.

 

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1 minute ago, shiznak said:

If I had to put money on who is more likely to leave, it’s Quinn. At some point in their careers, the Hughes brothers would want to play together, whether it’s here or somewhere else remains to be seen. 

Well there's a decent chance we end up with Luke this next draft if this play continues.

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1 hour ago, canuktravella said:

we own their rights til they are ufa in 5-6 yrs we probably signthem 8 yrs they are going no where

Ah, didn't know that. Thanks. Explains everything. Mods can lock the thread and spare som smart asses their time finding new ways to not answer topic. 

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The RFA thing has been brought up - but what about the friendships BB, Horvat, EP and QHs are making?  You can bet they miss Tanev and Markstrom too, but they are kids playing with vets and know they have a finite time span - and we're warned by JB changes were coming (as we were by fans) and that not everyone would be back.    TT scoring all but two of his points against us - typical Canuck luck, and won't be too surprised if Markstrom has some monster games against us too.    That said the 8.5 million plus Demko plus a good prospect like Hogs to sell Sutter or whomever to free up the cap we'd need to sign those guys ... and the fact those contracts likely at best would age just ok, at worst poorly....

 

Sure PLD was having a tough time and asked for a trade - and Laine is finding out that TT is a hard ass old school coach after his first benching already.   That i could get (especially given the more recent generations don't react as well as gen x and baby boomers to this sort of fear and punish based tactics) ... The way the guys celebrate the past 18 months and the playoffs ... you just know they are a tight knit group - who still has their coaches ear.    Played well last game - and against WNP, so we know they can still do it too. 

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5 hours ago, _Henrik_ said:

Ah, didn't know that. Thanks. Explains everything. Mods can lock the thread and spare som smart asses their time finding new ways to not answer topic. 

Maybe post a topic that is worth answering

 

prediction = 2025 will happen after 2024

 

 

iggy

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9 hours ago, _Henrik_ said:

UPDATE: Now I get it. Carry on. 

 1 hour ago, canuktravella said:

we own their rights til they are ufa in 5-6 yrs we probably signthem 8 yrs they are going no where

 

 

 

I haven't found a topic on this, so here goes.

The discussion about these guys' future always seem to assume that they want to stay, given enough lucrative contracts. That there is an established truth. I'm a sucker for loyalty, but can't see any reason for that. I mean, would you stay here if in their position? Why? 

I may have missed something. Maybe they've stated a wish to be a part of Vancouver for a long time. If so, great. If not, I would like to see a broader discussion about the team Anno Domini EPQHELCE (EP QH Entry-Level Contract Ending).  Pronounced i-pi-kju-el-tjee :)

 

GCG!

there's a loooong time before they become UFA, so I wouldn't worry much about it.  ONe of the silver linings of the season so far is that their poor play is pushing them into moderate bridge deal territory as opposed to huge, cap eating payday RFA territory

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10 minutes ago, stawns said:

there's a loooong time before they become UFA, so I wouldn't worry much about it.  ONe of the silver linings of the season so far is that their poor play is pushing them into moderate bridge deal territory as opposed to huge, cap eating payday RFA territory

 they are getting paid big  quins highest scoring dman and  petey much a ppg last 2 yrs and 10 points in 15 this  yr  elite players get paid  they get 10 mill on 8 yr deals i expect or 7.5 mill on 3 yr deals then 13 mill on next contract if rather lock them up 8 yrs 

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9 minutes ago, canuktravella said:

 they are getting paid big  quins highest scoring dman and  petey much a ppg last 2 yrs and 10 points in 15 this  yr  elite players get paid  they get 10 mill on 8 yr deals i expect or 7.5 mill on 3 yr deals then 13 mill on next contract if rather lock them up 8 yrs 

They got deals like that, before covid and a flat cap.

Time will tell what they get in todays world.

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10 minutes ago, gurn said:

They got deals like that, before covid and a flat cap.

Time will tell what they get in todays world.

and I wouldn't say either of them are even close to the players they were last year.  You have to show consistency if you want a big payday as an RFA

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1 hour ago, gurn said:

They got deals like that, before covid and a flat cap.

Time will tell what they get in todays world.

  or quinn can sign a one yr deal and get offer sheeted in 2022  im pretty sure 31 other teams will lineup flat cap or not.

 edler sutter pearson gaudette spooner benn baertchi  hamonic petey chatfield demko  quinn and bonus overages   all off books this yr adds up to 25 mill  not including trades  and one  player taken by seattle. demko will get 3.5-4 petey will probably get 9 so will quinn depending on term     hopefully eriksson retires and myers gets taken by seattle would free another 12 mill up 

we need to trade a few vets even if we retain half their salary(roussel, beagle)  could literally free up 40 mill   

good for having pod hoglander motte juolevi on cheap deals 

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