Popular Post RU SERIOUS Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) A sad stat , but with no one (Tanev) left to cover Quinn's A$$ when he's out of position when he's caught up ice or bumbling the puck, he's now fallen to the very worst and last +/- position in the entire National Hockey league at Minus -13 (Tied with Guess who....Gudbranson) with ALL 252 defenseman and ALL 743 other players in the entire league with a better +/- than him. Does JB or TG share any blame for this very sad situation???? Edited February 12, 2021 by RU SERIOUS typo 1 4 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 Cool thread 1 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said: A sad stat, but with no one (Tanev) left to cover Quinn's A$$ when he's out of position when he's caught up ice or bumbling the puck, he's now fallen to the very worst and last +/- position in the entire league (Tied with Guess who....Gudbranson) with 252 defenseman in the league better than him. Does JB or TG share any blame for this very sad situation???? Really???? Edited February 12, 2021 by iceman64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type R Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Its a tradeoff. Top defenceman for points right now too. I don't put this entirely on him, I do question defensive coaching of entire team, although i'd admit tonight was better. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnny Torts Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 If you are going to make a stat thread on a player, would you mind telling us the rest of them? Like he has the most points of all D in the league? in before the mods lock this bull$&!# 2 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post buddhahoodlum Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said: A sad stat, but with no one (Tanev) left to cover Quinn's A$$ when he's out of position when he's caught up ice or bumbling the puck, he's now fallen to the very worst and last +/- position in the entire league (Tied with Guess who....Gudbranson) with 252 defenseman in the league better than him. Does JB or TG share any blame for this very sad situation???? I'm pretty sure you and others like you would be ripping on Benning if he had resigned Tanev to that deal, because I am assuming that is what you are hinting at. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 who is his D partner again? oh that's right.. you put a young 2nd defenseman that's more focused on offense due to his size with a defensive liability defenseman as a D partner what do u expect? Hughes needed a complimentary defenseman to play with that's a stay at home type. Tanev was perfect.. hell even when luke schenn was here Hughes did just fine.. the entire canucks defense is a turnover machine.. there's not a single defenseman there you can point to and say oh he's a great defensive defenseman 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: who is his D partner again? oh that's right.. you put a young 2nd defenseman that's more focused on offense due to his size with a defensive liability defenseman as a D partner what do u expect? Hughes needed a complimentary defenseman to play with that's a stay at home type. Tanev was perfect.. hell even when luke schenn was here Hughes did just fine.. the entire canucks defense is a turnover machine.. there's not a single defenseman there you can point to and say oh he's a great defensive defenseman Thought he had a good thing going with Benn, but I guess the quality just wasn't there to be a competent big minute pairing that didn't hemorrhage goals against. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazzle Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 Or maybe Green/Baumer's systems are junk. Seriously, there's NO WAY schmidt is this bad coming from LV. 1 7 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: Or maybe Green/Baumer's systems are junk. Seriously, there's NO WAY schmidt is this bad coming from LV. Agreed. It's like half the team forgot how to play hockey, but yet it's all because Tanev and Markstrom are gone. People need to open their eyes. This team is not even a real team anymore. They stopped playing for this coaching staff weeks ago. 1 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, iceman64 said: Really???? Unfortunately yes - REALLY. Just check the stats on NHL.COM. So Sad too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Thought he had a good thing going with Benn, but I guess the quality just wasn't there to be a competent big minute pairing that didn't hemorrhage goals against. I thought Benn was probably their worst player tonight. Constantly turning over the puck. I'm hoping her gets replaced by Chatfield or even Rafferty next game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Johnny Torts said: If you are going to make a stat thread on a player, would you mind telling us the rest of them? Like he has the most points of all D in the league? in before the mods lock this bull$&!# We all know that and appreciate your attempt to enlighten us but even with his league leading points (which is already incorporated and considered in the plus/minus ratings calculation) he's still -13 in "THE HOLE", which means he's "technically' a liability. I'm sure you understand the math and what +/- means so I won't bother wasting your time trying to elaborate on the technical significance and impact of such. So this is not bull$&!# as you incorrectly state - rather FACT - whether you like it or not. Just go to NHL.COM player stats and see for yourself. Edited February 12, 2021 by RU SERIOUS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnny Torts Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said: We all know that and appreciate your attempt to enlighten us but even with his league leading points he's -13 in "THE HOLE" which means he's "technically' a liability. I'm sure you understand the math and what +/- means so I won't bother wasting your time trying to elaborate on the technical significance and impact of such. Just stop. Mods.. really? 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Maybe if we paired him with a true top 4 defenceman like Schmidt or Myers he'd have a chance instead of the 6-7th defenceman Benn. Not all his partners fault, he's been worse defensively this year and I blame that partially on him but mostly on Green for letting him free wheel so much. Not many other coaches would let kids like Petey and Hughes just do what they want offensively. Even the Sedins had to earn their right to play creatively after years of being cautious defensively. AV or Torts would destroy these kids for how they play right now and yes Torts is too much, but you need some sort of balance because Green is giving them absolutely no boundaries. Someone needs to tell them to chill offensively and play smart defensively but Green's the nice guy coach. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Where's Wellwood Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, RU SERIOUS said: A sad stat, but with no one (Tanev) left to cover Quinn's A$$ when he's out of position when he's caught up ice or bumbling the puck, he's now fallen to the very worst and last +/- position in the entire National Hockey league (Tied with Guess who....Gudbranson) with ALL 252 defenseman and ALL743 other players in the entire league better than him. Does JB or TG share any blame for this very sad situation???? RU SERIOUS? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 Our team defense as a whole has been awful. 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said: RU SERIOUS? LOL, not only am I serious but the NHL is too - where you can verify this as completely accurate for yourself. (Go to NHL,COM then Stats, then player stats) I know it's a shocker - but it's reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Or maybe Green/Baumer's systems are junk. Seriously, there's NO WAY schmidt is this bad coming from LV. LV has a better team overall. Just look at Theodore. I drooled when I watched him play. Schmidt maybe looked better because he got an easier job at LV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: LV has a better team overall. Just look at Theodore. I drooled when I watched him play. Schmidt maybe looked better because he got an easier job at LV. Last year Schmidt lead them in ice-time during the playoffs and was 2nd in ice-time during the season. 2018-19 he lead them in ice-time during the season and was 2nd in the playoffs. In 2017-18 he lead them in ice-time during the regular season and in the playoffs when they made it to the Stanley Cup Final. In 3 years in Vegas Schmidt averaged 52.5% D-zone starts while in Theodore averaged 43.6% D-zone starts in almost the same amount of time(3 years + this season). (According to Hockey Reference. NHL.com stats differ a tiny bit with zone starts). Schmidt was a 2nd unit PKer and 2nd unit PPer for Vegas every year(in terms of ice-time). Theodore has only been a 1st unit PPer. He hasn't ever been a PKer in Vegas. Overall Theodore is a dynamic offensive defenseman while Schmidt is a solid puck-moving defenseman in all 3 zones. Schmidt would go well with a physical defensive D. A pairing like this could be used in a match up role, eating up lot of minutes at even-strength. Theodore works better with a guy like Martinez(or Tanev), someone who's poise defensively and isn't gonna make mistakes with the puck. Theodore is similar to Hughes in that regard. Overall Tryamkin would probably be the perfect partner for Schmidt. It would be a similar partner to McNabb for Schmidt which was a great pairing for Vegas. Edited February 12, 2021 by Junkyard Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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