CANUCKS are NOT the WORST TEAM in the NHL

[GritGrinder]

3rd worst team overall this season and the 3rd worst team in league history overall. Well at least they are showing some consistency for the first time in a few seasons.  

 

 

Don't worry though. The Canes would need to get 71pts this season and the Canucks 48 for them to drop to 2nd worst. And that can't possibly happen...right?

Edited February 15, 2021 by GritGrinder

[VegasCanuck]

Canucks will have a strong finish to the year, but really don't care if we miss the playoffs this season. 

 

This year is really unprecedented and what this really highlights, is how bad our schedule has been. Very few teams have played even close to the number of games that we have, EVERY OTHER TEAM has had reasonable downtime and practice time to start the season, except the Canucks!

 

[GritGrinder]

42 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said:

Canucks will have a strong finish to the year, but really don't care if we miss the playoffs this season. 

 

This year is really unprecedented and what this really highlights, is how bad our schedule has been. Very few teams have played even close to the number of games that we have, EVERY OTHER TEAM has had reasonable downtime and practice time to start the season, except the Canucks!

 

The Oilers schedule has been virtually identical. They played each other on opening night, the Canucks play their 18th game and the Oilers their 17th tonight. The Oilers have played one less game in the same amount of days. The Canucks have played 2 more road games but that was basically a couple of extra nights spent in Calgary so not exactly a grueling road trip.

 

Their are also 5 other teams playing their 16th game tonight who played on opening night or the 2nd night and 3 of them are above .500 in tougher divisions.

Edited February 15, 2021 by GritGrinder

[Nucker 67]

Apparently, the Canucks are the only team to suffer the constraints of the pandemic, by the sounds of some here. Or it's the Salary Cap's fault.

 

I think it comes down to attitude. Look at BOS. Don't like 'em, don't like their fans or their players, but BOS does what it takes to win. They did in 2011, and they keep winning, playoffs every year. It's a mentality. The Canucks are not a feared team, they have some nice pieces in Pettersson and Hughes, but every team has young stars. Maybe it;s been since the Bertuzzi incident, afraid to be too physical. The Sedins say that's not the right way to play so....  This team needs an overhaul of attitude 

[RU SERIOUS]

51 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Apparently, the Canucks are the only team to suffer the constraints of the pandemic, by the sounds of some here. Or it's the Salary Cap's fault.

 

I think it comes down to attitude. Look at BOS. Don't like 'em, don't like their fans or their players, but BOS does what it takes to win. They did in 2011, and they keep winning, playoffs every year. It's a mentality. The Canucks are not a feared team, they have some nice pieces in Pettersson and Hughes, but every team has young stars. Maybe it;s been since the Bertuzzi incident, afraid to be too physical. The Sedins say that's not the right way to play so....  This team needs an overhaul of attitude 

Great Post and I agree 100%.   The heavy Swedish/passive attitude that Naslund and then the Sedins have instilled on this team for the last 20 years has to go.   We will never win a cup without a "Fire in the Belly / Do or Die" attitude.   You can see how the Sedins (bless their hearts) made Horvat go from a rugged/tough Canadian style player while he was in the juniors to a meek Sweed-like reincarnation of Barney Rubble. 

 

It's sad to see, and while we need those ultra-skilled finesse players on the team, we also need some grit too, so we don't constantly get pushed around and have some pushback when our stars are getting abused - which is the case now as we have a team full of Meek-Sheep.  I hope JB adds a few of those missing pieces over the next 2 years as we dispose of the last of the $40M+ of bad contracts/deadwood so we can give our young stars a real chance at  victory and the cup in  a few year's  when they're  in their prime.

[VegasCanuck]

1 hour ago, GritGrinder said:

The Oilers schedule has been virtually identical. They played each other on opening night, the Canucks play their 18th game and the Oilers their 17th tonight. The Oilers have played one less game in the same amount of days. The Canucks have played 2 more road games but that was basically a couple of extra nights spent in Calgary so not exactly a grueling road trip.

 

Their are also 5 other teams playing their 16th game tonight who played on opening night or the 2nd night and 3 of them are above .500 in tougher divisions.

And, they have also struggled. This is a really tough division to start with, the lack of pre-season schedule has made practice time, that much more necessary, and really haven't had it.

 

[ImConfused]

3 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

Let's assume this is from 1970 on...

 

TOR would probably be the worst team in the NHL, no SC Finals in over 50 years?

 

Next may be BUF

 

And then VAN

 

 

Except we've had 3 finals appearances, 2 presidents trophies, and won our division multiple times, if you're going by those measures of success.

 

But yeah, you're right, no cup in 50 years, let's just sell the fkn team and move it to Iowa or something right?

[DonLever]

Well, being 3rd last is nothing to celebrate about in a 31 team league.

[canuktravella]

16 hours ago, combover said:

Third worst - highest cap of the bottom 3

(4th highest overall) 

and destine to draft no better than 5th 

 

 

 

 

 

25 off in off season plus who ever seattle picks thats 800k-6mill possibly  hardly a problem at that point 

[alt kilgore]

We are so smart...SMRT

We are not the worst...WRZT

Woo Hoo!!!

 

 

[combover]

2 hours ago, canuktravella said:

25 off in off season plus who ever seattle picks thats 800k-6mill possibly  hardly a problem at that point 

Until Jim blows it on another LE or attempted OEL 

or Myers or beagle or sutter or AR ect.... or worse

the last guy you want having cap space in a ufa market is Jim Benning if he’s done nothing he’s proved that. 

cap mismanagement is Jim’s specialty. 
Owners have given him a blank check and they get to watch an 86 million dollar team be one of the worst for the past 7 seasons.
It’s a problem.

 

[RU SERIOUS]

14 minutes ago, combover said:

Until Jim blows it on another LE or attempted OEL 

or Myers or beagle or sutter or AR ect.... or worse

the last guy you want having cap space in a ufa market is Jim Benning if he’s done nothing he’s proved that. 

cap mismanagement is Jim’s specialty. 
Owners have given him a blank check and they get to watch an 86 million dollar team be one of the worst for the past 7 seasons.
It’s a problem.

 

................and AMEN to that!    Well said and ain't that the Truth !!!

[canuktravella]

3 hours ago, combover said:

Until Jim blows it on another LE or attempted OEL 

or Myers or beagle or sutter or AR ect.... or worse

the last guy you want having cap space in a ufa market is Jim Benning if he’s done nothing he’s proved that. 

cap mismanagement is Jim’s specialty. 
Owners have given him a blank check and they get to watch an 86 million dollar team be one of the worst for the past 7 seasons.
It’s a problem.

 

 first 3 yrs were cleaning up the mess gillis left     25 mill comes off next yr  then the luongo cap penalty comes off after next yr  should be ok

[RU SERIOUS]

Well, after the tie game with Calgary tonight, our P% improved slightly from .389 to .395.  So we're still well in control of third worst spot - but inching towards 4th worst spot soon. So things are looking up a bit!

 

National Hockey League	GP	W	L	OT	PTS	P%	RW	ROW	GF	GA	DIFF	HOME	AWAY	S/O	L10	STRK
31  Ottawa	17	4	12	1	9	.265	3	4	40	69	-29	1-5-1	3-7-0	0-0	3-7-0	W2
28  Detroit	17	4	10	3	11	.324	3	4	35	54	-19	2-3-2	2-7-1	0-0	2-6-2	OT1
21  Vancouver	19	7	11	1	15	.395	6	6	57	71	-14	5-3-1	2-8-0	1-0	3-6-1	OT1
24  Nashville	15	6	9	0	12	.400	3	5	36	52	-16	5-4-0	1-5-0	1-0	4-6-0	L1
27  San Jose	13	5	7	1	11	.423	1	1	35	49	-14	0-1-0	5-6-1	4-1	4-5-1	L2
26  NY Rangers	13	4	6	3	11	.423	3	4	31	34	-3	3-4-2	1-2-1	0-1	3-4-3	L1
25  Los Angeles	13	4	6	3	11	.423	4	4	40	44	-4	2-2-3	2-4-0	0-1	4-5-1	W1
30  Buffalo	11	4	5	2	10	.455	2	2	31	35	-4	2-4-1	2-1-1	2-1	4-4-2	L2
20  Anaheim	15	6	6	3	15	.500	5	5	30	39	-9	3-3-2	3-3-1	1-1	5-4-1	W1
13  Columbus	17	7	6	4	18	.529	6	6	50	60	-10	4-2-2	3-4-2	1-1	5-4-1	L1
12  Edmonton	17	9	8	0	18	.529	8	9	60	58	+2	4-5-0	5-3-0	0-0	6-4-0	L1
16  Arizona	15	7	6	2	16	.533	6	6	40	42	-2	4-3-2	3-3-0	1-1	5-4-1	W1
23  Minnesota	11	6	5	0	12	.545	3	6	30	30	0	3-3-0	3-2-0	0-0	5-5-0	L1
29  New Jersey	9	4	3	2	10	.556	3	4	23	26	-3	2-2-1	2-1-1	0-2	4-3-2	W1
15  Calgary	15	8	6	1	17	.567	6	7	44	40	+4	4-2-0	4-4-1	1-0	6-4-0	W1
19  Pittsburgh	13	7	5	1	15	.577	2	4	43	47	-4	5-0-0	2-5-1	3-0	6-3-1	W2
18  Washington	13	6	4	3	15	.577	4	5	47	51	-4	4-2-1	2-2-2	1-2	4-4-2	L4
22  Dallas	12	5	3	4	14	.583	4	5	40	34	+6	4-1-3	1-2-1	0-2	3-3-4	OT1
9  Chicago	17	8	5	4	20	.588	4	8	50	51	-1	5-2-1	3-3-3	0-2	6-2-2	W2
14  NY Islanders	14	7	4	3	17	.607	7	7	35	34	+1	4-0-1	3-4-2	0-1	4-3-3	W2
17  Colorado	12	7	4	1	15	.625	6	7	38	25	+13	4-1-0	3-3-1	0-0	6-3-1	L1
8  St Louis	16	9	5	2	20	.625	7	8	52	49	+3	3-3-2	6-2-0	1-2	6-3-1	L1
10  Winnipeg	15	9	5	1	19	.633	7	9	53	43	+10	6-3-1	3-2-0	0-1	5-4-1	W1
7  Montréal	15	9	4	2	20	.667	9	9	52	39	+13	3-4-0	6-0-2	0-1	6-4-0	W1
11  Philadelphia	13	8	3	2	18	.692	6	8	46	41	+5	5-2-1	3-1-1	0-1	6-2-2	W1
4  Tampa Bay	14	10	3	1	21	.750	9	10	54	32	+22	6-1-0	4-2-1	0-0	7-2-1	L1
1  Toronto	16	11	3	2	24	.750	10	11	58	44	+14	6-2-1	5-1-1	0-0	7-1-2	OT1
6  Carolina	13	10	3	0	20	.769	6	7	50	36	+14	4-0-0	6-3-0	3-0	8-2-0	W3
5  Florida	13	9	2	2	20	.769	6	8	44	40	+4	5-2-1	4-0-1	1-1	6-2-2	W1
2  Boston	14	10	2	2	22	.786	5	8	42	30	+12	4-0-0	6-2-2	2-0	8-1-1	L1
3  Vegas	13	10	2	1	21	.808	9	10	41	28	+13	8-1-1	2-1-0	0-1	7-2-1	W2

Edited February 16, 2021 by RU SERIOUS

[Dumb Nuck]

I’m just glad I’m not the third worst husband my wife has ever had.

[IBatch]

18 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said:

Great Post and I agree 100%.   The heavy Swedish/passive attitude that Naslund and then the Sedins have instilled on this team for the last 20 years has to go.   We will never win a cup without a "Fire in the Belly / Do or Die" attitude.   You can see how the Sedins (bless their hearts) made Horvat go from a rugged/tough Canadian style player while he was in the juniors to a meek Sweed-like reincarnation of Barney Rubble. 

 

It's sad to see, and while we need those ultra-skilled finesse players on the team, we also need some grit too, so we don't constantly get pushed around and have some pushback when our stars are getting abused - which is the case now as we have a team full of Meek-Sheep.  I hope JB adds a few of those missing pieces over the next 2 years as we dispose of the last of the $40M+ of bad contracts/deadwood so we can give our young stars a real chance at  victory and the cup in  a few year's  when they're  in their prime.

You do realize, that you are criticizing three of the best players this club had ever had right?   There might be some truth to this - i'd take the 89-96 team every day over the 2010-13 team.  Or the WCE era ones, or any of the Smyl ones.    Because who wants to watch Naslund talk post game - or have to read, hear and watch so many fans, media types etc slam one of the best brother duos all-time (second best by most accounts)... they were special players, that gave us the best regular seasons ever (although 93 matches up well without loser points, as do the WCE era best years), the most banners - and the second best run ever too.    And have a chance at first ballot HHOFers, although mostly because the lack of guys available right now to get in.   They will get in though.

 

I doubt EP will end up leading the league given his competition.   Unless like the Sedins McDavid goes down (for them it was Crosby - who's PGP when he did play - was way past what they accomplished)...and that he will end up in the HHOF.    What i don't doubt is he will also learn to take the punishment, and he's shown some penchant for reverse hitting, and getting riled up.   Not there yet but he will learn.   I also have massive doubts either QHs or EP would survive what the Sedins had to go through either.   

 

Different times.   Main point is be careful what you say about three of our best ever.    Second point is i do get where your coming from, but don't agree that's why both those teams couldn't win a cup.  One was bad goaltending on our part - the other was one of the best goaltending i've seen since Roy's 93 run.   Thomas won the Bruins the cup, way more then anything else.     WCE teams?   Cant win a cup with the worst playoff goalie past 25 games played ever can you?  

[IBatch]

8 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said:

I’m just glad I’m not the third worst husband my wife has ever had.

Wow.   Are you a kept man?  Makes sense with all the golf love .... if so well done lol. 

[Gollumpus]

On 2/14/2021 at 5:08 PM, RU SERIOUS said:

After reading a number of CDC post recently, I just wanted to clarify to those doomsday sayers that keep insinuating that The Canucks are The WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE - that we're actually only the 3rd Worst Team based on our winning percentage of .389 (which takes into account the extra games we've played over the other teams), leaving only 28 teams ahead of us - not all 30 of them (so let's be clear about that!!!) and I doubt we'll ever fall behind the two worst teams (Ottawa & Detroit) into the cellar, so things aren't as bad as they seem ! 

So, is the suggestion here that the Canucks might have a pretty good shot at Power, and failing that maybe very good chances at drafting Edvinsson or Clarke, and perhaps drafting a second Hughes if all else fails?

 

Still kind of early for this sort of thread, yes? Oh what am I saying, this is CDCtown...

 

                                                             regards,  G.

[Gollumpus]

On 2/15/2021 at 10:20 AM, GritGrinder said:

The Oilers schedule has been virtually identical. They played each other on opening night, the Canucks play their 18th game and the Oilers their 17th tonight. The Oilers have played one less game in the same amount of days. The Canucks have played 2 more road games but that was basically a couple of extra nights spent in Calgary so not exactly a grueling road trip.

 

Their are also 5 other teams playing their 16th game tonight who played on opening night or the 2nd night and 3 of them are above .500 in tougher divisions.

The total number of games played is only somewhat relevant.

 

Look at Edmonton's schedule for this season (through February). They have (so far) played in two back-to-back sets of games, the first against the Canucks in January, and the second against the Senators in February. In every other instance they have had at least one day off between games (whether at home or for travelling), or in February there will be/have been two instances of three days off, and they will be coming off of a two day rest when they next meet the Canucks on the 23rd..

 

The Canucks have been in four, back-to-back sets to date. The first time they have had two days in a row off was Feb. 9th and 10th. The next time they will get two (or more) days off in a row is the last three days of this month, leaving them to play 5 games in 10 days.

 

The total number of games for the Canucks in February is 13 over 25 days, while Edmonton plays 12 games over 26 days. The Canucks do have the last 3 days of the month off (therefore a 25 day month), while Edmonton didn't/won't play on the first or last days of the month (therefore only a 26 day month).

 

This suggests that Edmonton are a far more rested team than the Canucks.

 

                                              regards,  G.

[Toyotasfan]

I actually feel bad for Buffalo, Taylor Hall is synonymous with losing. I hope he makes lots of money in his career because I truly believe that’s all that matters to him.