LeafsFanDan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Many people believe the answer is resoundingly YES. I pulled a few recent articles including: Karlsson contract single handedly ruined Sharks season And this delicious quote from a Toronto paper: Catastrophe in Buffalo "Thirteen games in, Jack Eichel has scored twice. Taylor Hall has scored once. And Jeff Skinner hasn’t scored at all. Combined, a high-paid trio that is earning $27-million this year has one even-strength goal and nine even-strength points. Skinner, who’s $9-million cap hit makes him the highest-paid fourth-line forward in the NHL, hasn’t scored in almost 12 months." ____ It's for these types of reasons why so many and I mean many people in Vancouver are on Bennings case about poor contracts. Just one bad contract can absolutely crush a team, no joke. Yet Canucks have several, it's incredible they are where they are in the standings considering how bad their contract managment has been. Cautionary tale here for EP and QH contracts coming up, they can make or break a team just 2 guys is enough to completely tank a team as shown. Thoughts are welcomed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LeafsFanDan said: Many people believe the answer is resoundingly YES. I pulled a few recent articles including: Karlsson contract single handedly ruined Sharks season And this delicious quote from a Toronto paper: Catastrophe in Buffalo "Thirteen games in, Jack Eichel has scored twice. Taylor Hall has scored once. And Jeff Skinner hasn’t scored at all. Combined, a high-paid trio that is earning $27-million this year has one even-strength goal and nine even-strength points. Skinner, who’s $9-million cap hit makes him the highest-paid fourth-line forward in the NHL, hasn’t scored in almost 12 months." ____ It's for these types of reasons why so many and I mean many people in Vancouver are on Bennings case about poor contracts. Just one bad contract can absolutely crush a team, no joke. Yet Canucks have several, it's incredible they are where they are in the standings considering how bad their contract managment has been. Cautionary tale here for EP and QH contracts coming up, they can make or break a team just 2 guys is enough to completely tank a team as shown. Thoughts are welcomed. I think the 6 million dollar contract for Eriksson has been overstated. The Canucks didn't entirely get punished by that ONE contract. However, there is something to be said about the other bottom 6 forwards - that they may have been paid too much for their production. I think it's valid to mention it. That being said, the very same people criticizing the construction of Benning's rosters have avoided crediting the prospect development that he brought about which has been huge for this team. Without it, perhaps those above signings would have gotten Benning fired a lot sooner. Look at Buffalo/Edmonton - both these teams have been stocking up 1st round picks, but because they rush their prospects, this has been problematic to them during their rebuild. Yes he has not been perfect. But to state that he didn't revamp the scouting department (he did) and how it looks for prospects (also what he did) is just dishonest discourse. No other GM in recent memory has produced as many exciting prospects/young players as Benning. That is a fact. Edited February 22, 2021 by Dazzle 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junkyard Dog Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 Kind of a bit early to finalize any judgements on Eichel. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 No, I don't think so. Even if you look at the final four every year, you'll find that even the elite teams have certain amount of dollars not contributing. It's standard to make a few mistakes and have to work around it. It becomes an issue that truly hampers your team if - in addition to your manageable/expected amount of bad cap dollars - you're not getting surplus value from the guys who aren't significantly overpaid and/OR if your significant overpayments/dead cap reaches an insane totality. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 It must be dinner time, the "roaster" part of the thread title made me hungry. 1 1 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 One bad contract shouldn’t ruin a roster, it takes two to tango. 2 overpaid underachievers can seriously wreck a team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 One $6 million contract. No. $6 million in dead weight in conjunction with underachieving and inconsistency. Does not help things at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, LeafsFanDan said: Skinner, who’s $9-million cap hit makes him the highest-paid fourth-line forward in the NHL, hasn’t scored in almost 12 months." "almost 12 months" including the missed the playoffs and off season as time he hasn't scored is kind of misleading, isn't it? He played poorly last year and worse this, no need for the reporter to pile on with that type of commentary Edited February 22, 2021 by gurn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, gurn said: It must be dinner time, the "roaster" part of the thread title made me hungry. I know. Made me regret not doing up a pot roast earlier today. Now it's too late to roast anything... because I just fired up the BBQ. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Rather have a few overpaid vets(3-6 millish), off books in a yr(or two, at most), than a 9 - 11 million $ lump signed 'til eternity! We chalk it up to a learning experience, for future biz. We got: - maybe ONE hiccup yr(whoop-di-do) - The best run of any Cdn entry, 5 mos back - One of the best young cores in the game - ANDDDD, that assembly line keeps churnin' them out Absolutely no need for drama-queenin' this short-term hiccup! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I can tell you've been hurt By that look on your face, girl Some guy brought sad Into your happy world You need love, but you're Afraid that if you give in Someone else will come along And sock it to you again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, luckylager said: I know. Made me regret not doing up a pot roast earlier today. Now it's too late to roast anything... because I just fired up the BBQ. Ya's all reading the roast..are just lazy typers on coast! :^O 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 1 contract could ruin a team's potential, but the whole roster? Unlikely. Hall has proven he can produce on different teams, Eichel has also shown he's more valuable than his production thisnyear would suggest. Buffalo's problems are not their contracts. Edited February 22, 2021 by falcon45ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) Skinner had the fortune of scoring 40 goals before signing that current contract of his. 40 goals! Edited February 22, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 @bishopshodan Holy jumpin', your post has insisted on feelin' the blues... I can tell by the wayyy, you heckle that lump Derision in posts, you've lost all yer jump But if you let CDC...here's what they'll doooo Ah, they'll take care of you YOU don't have to worry...you don't ever have to cry We'll track down more sweet young talent To dry our weepin' eyes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: @bishopshodan Holy jumpin', your post has insisted on feelin' the blues... I can tell by the wayyy, you heckle that lump Derision in posts, you've lost all yer jump But if you let CDC...here's what they'll doooo Ah, they'll take care of you YOU don't have to worry...you don't ever have to cry We'll track down more sweet young talent To dry our weepin' eyes.... Oh, I'll give it one more tryBefore I give up on love 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 It's easy to kick Buffalo when they're down, but I'm not sure the contracts are the biggest problem over there. It goes deeper than that, they're Edmonton level futile and they probably shouldn't be given the talent on that roster. It goes deeper than that. Perhaps it's a cultural thing, perhaps it's an organizational problem, I don't know. People paid a helluva lot more than me haven't been able to figure things out over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, LeafsFanDan said: Many people believe the answer is resoundingly YES. I pulled a few recent articles including: Karlsson contract single handedly ruined Sharks season And this delicious quote from a Toronto paper: Catastrophe in Buffalo "Thirteen games in, Jack Eichel has scored twice. Taylor Hall has scored once. And Jeff Skinner hasn’t scored at all. Combined, a high-paid trio that is earning $27-million this year has one even-strength goal and nine even-strength points. Skinner, who’s $9-million cap hit makes him the highest-paid fourth-line forward in the NHL, hasn’t scored in almost 12 months." ____ It's for these types of reasons why so many and I mean many people in Vancouver are on Bennings case about poor contracts. Just one bad contract can absolutely crush a team, no joke. Yet Canucks have several, it's incredible they are where they are in the standings considering how bad their contract managment has been. Cautionary tale here for EP and QH contracts coming up, they can make or break a team just 2 guys is enough to completely tank a team as shown. Thoughts are welcomed. petey hughes are superstars so far in their limited careers they will get paid wellim not to worried bout them not producing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: Kind of a bit early to finalize any judgements on Eichel. Exactly. True for both him and Hall Eichel: 13 points in 14 games despite only 2 goals Hall: 10 points in 14 games despite only 1 goal Skinner for sure is a bad contract, but writing that decontextualizes and exaggerates is not good journalism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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