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[Waivers] Stefan Noesen, Jarred Tinordi


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4 minutes ago, mll said:

Several goalies.  Pittsburgh claimed Mark Friedman earlier this week.

 

3 minutes ago, qwijibo said:

A few.  

Thanks, I haven't been keeping up on waiver guys. Good to see some movement, even in a covid/cap league.

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4 minutes ago, gurn said:

 

Thanks, I haven't been keeping up on waiver guys. Good to see some movement, even in a covid/cap league.

Mark Friedman was the only skater claimed. 

 

Other 4 were goalies that teams were trying to send to the taxi squad.  Two were also claimed back by their original team when their new team tried to send them to their taxi squad.   Aaron Dell waived by Toronto still with NJD.  Winnipeg still has Anton Forsberg claimed from Edmonton, but claimed Comrie back (from NJD) who has to clear quarantine - they might then waive Forsberg.   Grosenick is back with LA after being claimed by Edmonton.

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Noesen was a player that looked like he'd carve out a bottom six NHL career.

 

2017/18 in NJ was a very good season for him (24 yrs old at the time).

37.5% ozone starts

50.2% corsi (some of the better underlying numbers on the Devils).

13g, 14 a, +12, in 72 games.

2.7 on ice goals for per 60, 2.0 against

112 hits

33 takeaways, 15 giveaways (+18 turnover differential).

 

But then tailed off the following season and hasn't really sustained since.

 

 

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54 minutes ago, kloubek said:

Surprised Tinordi's stock has fallen so much. Wasn't he picked in the first round?

And comes from good stock... his Dad was a monster in the league.  Having a Dad who knows how to become an NHLer seems to help most guys figure it out.

 

Maybe this did the reverse, hard to escape the shadow.

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5 hours ago, Provost said:

Boy, Tinordi is a guy that I really wanted back when he was still in the minors.  I thought he would be a really dependable Willie Mitchell type player   Just another guy who has the tools but couldn't put it together.

 

To your point that was heavily reliant on hindsight about picking duds. Guess what? Every GM selects at least one, especially in the first round. Look at how decent this draft was...

 

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2010e.html

ZOMG SHOULD"VE DRAFTED KUZNETSO
FFFF!!!!

 

I remember when people were all over picking Tinordi.

That year, we lost out on a  late first round pick - that ended up being a Quinton Howden for FLA, who didn't turn out to be NHL calibre. You know who got for that? Keith Ballard.

 

Grabner + 1st gone...

 

1 1 Edmonton Taylor Hall L Windsor Spitfires [OHL] 644 219 356 575 360 2020-21
1 2 Boston Tyler Seguin C Plymouth Whalers [OHL] 741 279 356 635 223 2019-20
1 3 Florida Erik Gudbranson D Kingston Frontenacs [OHL] 540 21 55 76 603 2020-21
1 4 Columbus Ryan Johansen C Portland Winterhawks [WHL] 672 144 302 446 409 2020-21
1 5 NY Islanders Nino Niederreiter R Portland Winterhawks [WHL] 620 146 156 302 302 2020-21
1 6 Tampa Bay Brett Connolly R Prince George Cougars [WHL] 511 99 92 191 222 2020-21
1 7 Carolina Jeff Skinner L Kitchener Rangers [OHL] 734 258 208 466 328 2020-21
1 8 Atlanta Alexander Burmistrov C Barrie Colts [OHL] 348 37 64 101 139 2017-18
1 9 Minnesota Mikael Granlund C HIFK Helsinki [SM-liiga] 556 115 246 361 156 2020-21
1 10 NY Rangers Dylan McIlrath D Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL] 66 3 2 5 121 2019-20
1 11 Dallas Jack Campbell G U.S. National Development Team [USHL] 66 0 1 1 0 2020-21
1 12 Anaheim Cam Fowler D Windsor Spitfires [OHL] 699 69 241 310 187 2020-21
1 13 Phoenix Brandon Gormley D Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL] 58 2 3 5 20 2015-16
1 14 St. Louis Jaden Schwartz L Tri-City Storm [USHL] 534 148 225 373 143 2020-21
1 15 Los Angeles Derek Forbort D U.S. National Development Team [USHL] 294 7 52 59 209 2020-21
1 16 St. Louis Vladimir Tarasenko R Novosibirsk Sibir [KHL] 507 214 214 428 145 2019-20
1 17 Colorado Joey Hishon C Owen Sound Attack [OHL] 13 1 1 2 0 2014-15
1 18 Nashville Austin Watson L Peterborough Petes [OHL] 328 39 45 84 381 2020-21
1 19 Florida Nick Bjugstad C Blaine H.S. [Minn.] 455 99 112 211 208 2020-21
1 20 Pittsburgh Beau Bennett R Penticton Vees [BCHL] 200 24 40 64 52 2017-18
1 21 Detroit Riley Sheahan C Notre Dame [CCHA] 530 68 99 167 87 2020-21
1 22 Montreal Jarred Tinordi D U.S. National Development Team [USHL] 88 1 10 11 116 2020-21
1 23 Buffalo Mark Pysyk D Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL] 432 23 66 89 138 2020-21
1 24 Chicago Kevin Hayes R Nobles School [Mass.] 466 122 163 285 138 2020-21
1 25 Florida Quinton Howden C Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL] 97 10 7 17 30 2016-17
1 26 Washington Evgeny Kuznetsov C Chelyabinsk Traktor [KHL] 490 122 273 395 252 2020-21
1 27 Phoenix Mark Visentin G Niagara IceDogs [OHL] 1 0 0 0 0 2013-14
1 28 San Jose Charlie Coyle C South Shore Kings [EJHL] 587 112 179 291 219 2020-21
1 29 Anaheim Emerson Etem R Medicine Hat Tigers [WHL] 173 22 24 46 30 2016-17
1 30 NY Islanders Brock Nelson C Warroad H.S. [Minn.] 567 155 148 303 211

2020-21

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3 hours ago, oldnews said:

Noesen was a player that looked like he'd carve out a bottom six NHL career.

 

2017/18 in NJ was a very good season for him (24 yrs old at the time).

37.5% ozone starts

50.2% corsi (some of the better underlying numbers on the Devils).

13g, 14 a, +12, in 72 games.

2.7 on ice goals for per 60, 2.0 against

112 hits

33 takeaways, 15 giveaways (+18 turnover differential).

 

But then tailed off the following season and hasn't really sustained since.

 

 

I think he was unlucky to play on a bad team. Those look like really good underlying stats.

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