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59 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

Some food for thought...

 

We have 4 players in the top 25 in scoring for the NHL....

 

No other team has more than 2 players that high on the list...

 

We are 3 points out of a playoff spot....

 

With all of that said...we only need a 4-5 game win streak to get back into contention and we appear to have the horses to do it...

 

I think Gaud's, MacEwen, Hogs and Horvat are due for another offensive breakout and that may be all we need...

 

But Juolevi should be playing as well...he has been out least mistake prone D. and our best breakout passer (by far, even better than QH)...he has been fine at taking pucks and chances away in front of his own net as well.

 

Get with the program Greeener and play the guy before you get the boot...!

But the thing is, had we not pissed away five points over the last couple of weeks, we would currently be third in the division and the overall outlook of the season would be very different. 

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8 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Let’s get another one and start putting together some wins!

 

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Go Canucks Go!!! :towel:

 

 

(Bonus content: here’s a long, rambling draft of a post I’d started writing for the other thread.)

 

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Here’s hoping last night’s win isn’t just a blip, but the springboard that leads to this team finally having a sustained period of solid play, combined with favourable puck luck.

 

We should, at some point, start stringing together some better results. The team process has been better, in general, over that past month or so. Maybe not consistently, but on average, the team has played better than the results have shown.

 

And we did have many issues affecting us that should have eventually resolved, with time. The adjustment to the departing players and leadership/friendship void that resulted. The incoming new players and building familiarity with the team. Our young stars just having some awful, and uncharacteristic, struggles early on. The whole team not hitting the ground running, when it came to commitment to team defence, and implementing Green’s systems. Arguably the worst schedule of any NHL team, to start the season, and the fatigue issues that resulted, coupled and compounded with the lack of time for training/practice and rest/time off. And just some awful, ugly, baffling, and inexplicably poor puck luck, while other teams (and some former Canucks) seemed to play with horseshoes up their *****, whenever they faced us. The hockey gods really seemed to hate us, for much of the year, up until to this point.
 

All these issues and more, hitting in combination, and seeming to feed off each other, making the whole problem even greater than the sum of its parts.

 

So, yeah, hopefully better days are ahead.

 

However, there’s no question that this team needs improvement, starting with the roster itself (which was always the main limiting factor). And there have been elements of this coaching staff that have been exposed as problematic and deficient.
 

Even if the hockey gods decide to bless us, from here on out, and we start to look like a good team through the second half of the season, it’s likely masking some of the structural issues with this hockey club, which really need to be addressed.

 

We were fortunate last year. Many elements of the roster greatly outperformed expectations and statistics, from the goaltending, to the second unit PP, to some of the individual skaters producing far greater totals than the fancy stats said they should. But this team was always poised for regression. It just hit far harder than anyone could have predicted, due to the numerous factors discussed earlier in this post.

 

So, if we’ve somehow steered out of the rut, and gotten back on track, what’s in store for the remainder of this season? Fortunately, we play in what’s probably the weakest division in the league, and we’re not yet eliminated from the playoffs. It’s still possible to string together enough wins to make it back to a bubble playoff team (although it would be much easier in an 82 game season—with this shortened schedule, we could simply run out of time, even if we start stringing together wins and go on a bit of a run). 
 

But hopefully, even if we don’t make it back to the playoffs, we can play well enough from here on out, so the players can feel good about themselves, and regain some of their pride and swagger. This season can still be a good learning experience, and one of coming together and overcoming adversity, which will only help our young players on their career journeys, and also help knit even tighter bonds between our players. 
 

And hopefully this season also forces management (and ownership) to make an honest assessment of where this team is, and what needs to be done, to improve this roster. We were a bubble team in 2019-20, and had a scrappy little Cinderella playoff run, but the successes last year overall were a bit of a mirage. We needed so many things to go right for us, and against the odds, for this team to look like it was anything close to an up and coming contender.
 

There’s still a lot of work to be done. And, if anything, the horrible results we’ve seen during the first half of this season have exposed just how fragile this team is, and how easily we can drop from a middling team, to an absolutely awful one, when things don’t go our way.

 

So here’s hoping we play our best hockey, and the hockey gods shine brightly on us, starting with today’s game, and continuing through the entire second half of this season.

 

And here’s also hoping that, even if we manage turn around the season, the lessons learned from the first half aren’t forgotten, but lights a fire under this front office, and force them to take an honest look at this roster and staff, both the good and the bad. The struggles of this season should put many of the most pressing issues facing this team into very sharp focus. And hopefully Benning will get to work (or another GM will), and start taking the steps necessary, to learn from and fix past mistakes, and make the repairs/corrections and additions to this roster, that will actually build it into a legitimate contender.

 
 

 

 

I enjoyed that ramble, SID. I do expect the team to get better results for the rest of the season, but I'm not holding out hope for the playoffs. .550 hockey with good, honest, efforts most nights will still be fun to watch. It's not like our window is closing and we desperately need to make the push this year. 

 

My hope is similar: That we have seen the worst step back that this young group will take, and they'll be a playoff team for years to come. It's going to take some hard work from all: Especially looking at management to make prudent use of the $ we have available from expiring poor contracts.

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1 hour ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

Some food for thought...

 

We have 4 players in the top 25 in scoring for the NHL....

 

No other team has more than 2 players that high on the list...

 

We are 3 points out of a playoff spot....

 

With all of that said...we only need a 4-5 game win streak to get back into contention and we appear to have the horses to do it...

 

I think Gaud's, MacEwen, Hogs and Horvat are due for another offensive breakout and that may be all we need...

 

But Juolevi should be playing as well...he has been out least mistake prone D. and our best breakout passer (by far, even better than QH)...he has been fine at taking pucks and chances away in front of his own net as well.

 

Get with the program Greeener and play the guy before you get the boot...!

Not to mention that Myers had quietly been in the top 30 D scorers most of the season and is currently sitting at tied for 26th...also even plus minus (and he's added to both special team, and used against top competition 5 x 5)...what a bum - overpaid by like 250k,  we should expose the guy and play Chatfield (face palm)...

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27 minutes ago, SergioMomesso said:

Travis Hamonic is growing on me. Played a solid game last night.

Agreed.  This is the player we were hoping for when he signed.  Also liked Hamonic's post-game interview about establishing a solid defensive foundation.  Probably something the coaches are drilling into them too, but it helps when veterans back it up.  Schmidt has been excellent too.

The whole D corps and team defensive game is coming around, and it shows in the smaller number of shots we're giving up recently.  At no point in the last 6-7 years has our defense been this good.  It took some radical surgery in the off season and some very painful growing pains over the last 2 months, but it looks like we're getting there.  If we can keep this up and make it a defining part of how we play, it will have been worth it.

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9 minutes ago, Pears said:

But the thing is, had we not pissed away five points over the last couple of weeks, we would currently be third in the division and the overall outlook of the season would be very different. 

I don't think any of us are unaware of this.   Personally i hope we make the playoffs but also know - not even deep down - that we need another blue chip D and or C in the pipe.   Best case we make the playoffs and JB manages another BB like pick.   Realistically not going to happen - the top ten is loaded with D's and two blue chip C's.....we need both and Edler replacement and a medium long term Horvat replacement too.    This year is just screwy.   Covid.   Fans were let in last night to watch Vegas ... and EDM is trying to get fans in too..just another strange year.    A lot is going on right now in our division as other teams face a tougher schedule - go figure. 

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3 minutes ago, cuporbust said:

Looks like Tram is ramping up his play to come to North America.  Let's hope he finally comes back. He is having a monster year IMO. 

 

We could use more of this in our lineup as well as everything else he brings. 

You know you're huge when you make a 6’1 207ib dude look small

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Just now, Chicken. said:

You know you're huge when you make a 6’1 207ib dude look small

he probably knew before then. 

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3 minutes ago, cuporbust said:

Looks like Tram is ramping up his play to come to North America.  Let's hope he finally comes back. He is having a monster year IMO. 

 

We could use more of this in our lineup as well as everything else he brings. 

That's the first fight i've seen Tryamkin use his size.   Nice to see.  One can hope but all he has to do is wait and get a job with any NHL team so i'm not holding my breath. 

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8 minutes ago, IBatch said:

That's the first fight i've seen Tryamkin use his size.   Nice to see.  One can hope but all he has to do is wait and get a job with any NHL team so i'm not holding my breath. 

is that Andrey Pedan?

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5 minutes ago, Maniwaki Canuck said:

Yeah, the Myers hate here is downright stupid.  All those geniuses who'd like to go with 5-6 LD or think that Pietrangelo was lining up to sign here should drop in on reality every now and again.  The guy is playing a strong 2-way game, is full value for his contract and not the reason for our defensive struggles this year.

I was meh on Myers until the series against St. Louis. After Myers went down, the next 4 goals St. Louis scored were zone entries on his side of the D zone, and the Blues out-muscling Stetcher to free up the puck and make a play. It was glarring how much the team missed him.

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