komodo0921 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Minnesota needs centers, we need defensive help. Adam Gaudette for Ryan O Rourke Gaudette needs a reboot and isn't a center I see as a depth center. He's got a lot of skill but needs to refine it and could turn into a pretty good #2 if can improve his game. Ryan O Rourke is a defender in the truest sense. He's not going to be a prolific offensive player. His value is in the defensive zone and in his physical, pugilistic game. At this point he's still a couple seasons away but there's little doubt having a guy like this as Hughes' partner would bring great value, IF, he realizes his potential. Both teams take a chance, both teams get a player at a position they need but, for different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, komodo0921 said: Minnesota needs centers, we need defensive help. Adam Gaudette for Ryan O Rourke Gaudette needs a reboot and isn't a center I see as a depth center. He's got a lot of skill but needs to refine it and could turn into a pretty good #2 if can improve his game. Ryan O Rourke is a defender in the truest sense. He's not going to be a prolific offensive player. His value is in the defensive zone and in his physical, pugilistic game. At this point he's still a couple seasons away but there's little doubt having a guy like this as Hughes' partner would bring great value, IF, he realizes his potential. Both teams take a chance, both teams get a player at a position they need but, for different reasons. I've never heard of this player before, but scouting report looks good. How highly does Minnesota value him? Wouldn't mind getting an extra pick with the average prospect. Also if he can play on the opposite side then he can probably fit with Quinn (he's also a LHD). Edited March 17, 2021 by Phil_314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Minnesota identified their lack of ruggedness and size on D as a weakness and that’s why they drafted him. They actually have centers. No legit playmaking top-6 but Gaudette isn’t one either. Wild also sound happy with their group. Their team is rolling. Adding a player forces them to scratch someone. Seems unnecessary to mess with chemistry when all is going so well. Next season they should get Rossi who has a far more interesting profile than Gaudette. They decided to move on from Kunin who is a better two-way player than Gaudette. Guerin btw doesn’t think the need to find Cs to be that pressing. He believes in line drivers which they have on the wings. For Cs he talks of reliable defensively as being important because of who drives the lines on their team. Reliable and able to cover defensively that's really not Gaudette and they already have those players. The Wild are still in a retool. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Phil_314 said: I've never heard of this player before, but scouting report looks good. How highly does Minnesota value him? Wouldn't mind getting an extra pick with the average prospect. Also if he can play on the opposite side then he can probably fit with Quinn (he's also a LHD). I would like that too but, they do seem to be really high on this guy and may not be willing to part with him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Scoop up all the Minnesota Judd Brackett picks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Phil_314 said: I've never heard of this player before, but scouting report looks good. How highly does Minnesota value him? Wouldn't mind getting an extra pick with the average prospect. Also if he can play on the opposite side then he can probably fit with Quinn (he's also a LHD). Just drafted high in the 2nd round. I’d imagine they’d value him more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Just drafted high in the 2nd round. I’d imagine they’d value him more than that. So add to the deal. What else do you think it would take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, komodo0921 said: So add to the deal. What else do you think it would take? Think if this was a year earlier and Minnesota really liked Hoglander so they offered you Donato. What more would you want to move the needle for you. I know adding a 2nd wouldn’t do it for me. I already know I got a guy I like so why. Now if you offered me a 1rst rounder. However ours is looking to be top 10 so that’s out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 7 hours ago, komodo0921 said: Minnesota needs centers, we need defensive help. Adam Gaudette for Ryan O Rourke Gaudette needs a reboot and isn't a center I see as a depth center. He's got a lot of skill but needs to refine it and could turn into a pretty good #2 if can improve his game. Ryan O Rourke is a defender in the truest sense. He's not going to be a prolific offensive player. His value is in the defensive zone and in his physical, pugilistic game. At this point he's still a couple seasons away but there's little doubt having a guy like this as Hughes' partner would bring great value, IF, he realizes his potential. Both teams take a chance, both teams get a player at a position they need but, for different reasons. Why trade for ORourke #12 on prospect list in Minnesoda ? Still long ways from being a NHL player.. We have lots of young D men- Juolevi 6'3 -22 Rathbone 5'11 - 21 Chattfield 6'1 -23 Briesbois 6'2 - 22 - Woo 6'0 - 20- -Jurmo 6'4 -19 --Persson 19 -6'2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 2:14 PM, flickyoursedin said: Think if this was a year earlier and Minnesota really liked Hoglander so they offered you Donato. What more would you want to move the needle for you. I know adding a 2nd wouldn’t do it for me. I already know I got a guy I like so why. Now if you offered me a 1rst rounder. However ours is looking to be top 10 so that’s out of the question. Gaudette, Juolevi? Gotta remember, this is taking a chance. O Rourke is showing promise but, he's, at least, a couple seasons away, IF, he even develops into an NHLer. They have needs at both positions. This gives them one at each position. We're giving up two NHLers, one of which may, simply, need to be given a more offensive role in Gaudette (which is what I believe). Gaudette is also going to be affordable on his next deal as he's yet to, fully, realize his potential. One must also admit, this has been a strange year for a lot of players. Everyone has had a diffrent reaction to the circumstances under which they've played; Gaudette is no different. Juolevi is NHL ready now. He may not be an offensively gifted defender but, he is proving to be a good (too early to say great) defensive player. In my estimation, this would be an overpayment but shows how badly, I think, we need to address this part of our team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Gaudette isn’t a viable center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 23 hours ago, wildcam said: Why trade for ORourke #12 on prospect list in Minnesoda ? Still long ways from being a NHL player.. We have lots of young D men- Juolevi 6'3 -22 Rathbone 5'11 - 21 Chattfield 6'1 -23 Briesbois 6'2 - 22 - Woo 6'0 - 20- -Jurmo 6'4 -19 --Persson 19 -6'2 Yes, we have size but, we have none with the grit and willingness to protect his fellow players that O Rourke provides. It's the main reason I want him. I am far from sold on Hughes being the blueline godsend that most seem to be heralding him as. Yes, he's young and yes, he's been saying all the right things as far as addressing his defensive deficiencies but, these are deficiencies he should've been working on from day one and he will never be a physical force and will always be a target of opposition. I must also express my desire for a more traditional, sizey, meaner defense with greater grit and defensive capabilities. Yes, providing offense is necessary but, it doesn't have to be of superstar quality, unless, such a player also has good defensive instincts as well but, those are called first over all picks and rarely become available unless they are unhappy or age catches up with them. I'm seeing a Tanev type with much more toughness. Hughes O Rourke Rathbone Woo Tryamkin Myers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, komodo0921 said: Gaudette, Juolevi? Gotta remember, this is taking a chance. O Rourke is showing promise but, he's, at least, a couple seasons away, IF, he even develops into an NHLer. They have needs at both positions. This gives them one at each position. We're giving up two NHLers, one of which may, simply, need to be given a more offensive role in Gaudette (which is what I believe). Gaudette is also going to be affordable on his next deal as he's yet to, fully, realize his potential. One must also admit, this has been a strange year for a lot of players. Everyone has had a diffrent reaction to the circumstances under which they've played; Gaudette is no different. Juolevi is NHL ready now. He may not be an offensively gifted defender but, he is proving to be a good (too early to say great) defensive player. In my estimation, this would be an overpayment but shows how badly, I think, we need to address this part of our team game. O’Rourke is several years away which works for the Wild. Canucks need young ready Ds now to match the Hughes/Pettersson timeline. Why would you want to trade Juolevi away. Edler is slowing down. Schmidt played the right side in Vegas. Benning keeps on pushing back the timeline for them to be competitive but at some point the risk is of key players leaving. Horvat says he’s not interested in another rebuild. He’s a UFA in two years. Miller too. Edited March 19, 2021 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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