[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Montreal Canadiens | March 19, 2021 | 4 p.m. PT | SNP, RDS

[Johnny Torts]

We need to bring it our all or start lacin em golf shoes up.

 

I dont like golf shoes.

[Ghostsof1915]

9 hours ago, GoCanucks16 said:

why do we have the loser point again?

 

montreal has 8 points from losing games this season... not cool tbh

Simple solution:

2 points for a regulation win.

1 point for an overtime win either 3 on 3 or shootout.

0 points for any loss. 

 

[IBatch]

BTW just to spread some joy into the GDT and some positive thinking .... SN did an article about a year ago on the best first round draft picks from 2010-2020 (which i referenced in a different thread this morning)...  JB has picked the best 5th overall, 7th overall, 23 overall  and the article said it's possible also the best 10th overall but the jury is still out.   Horvat also didn't quite make the cut at 9th (that goes to Hamilton).   Given that Buffalo AGAIN looks like a team that could draft 1-4 under the new rules, and really should be first ... and that they have one over the past decade that made the cut in Eichel as best second overall pick ... plus Reinhart, Risto, Dahlin, well really it's a very long laundry list... even COL had multiple higher picks then we did (2 4ths - and props to them for making that happen)....

 

Reading that article just was another acknowledgement that we are on the right path and good things are coming.  Patience might be running thin and as a somewhat long time fan i get that too.   But compared to bad teams .... and some terrible ones ... things could be so so much worse.   Buffalo is loaded with first rounders - like EDM used to be before they went on to their second wave of high first round pick core guys (well two really plus RNH and Bouchard) ... CAR finally got it done after more then a decade (ARI is still trying to make it work lol, what a garbage team they still are!)... can see why vet teams re-tool until it's no longer plausible these days, because paying the piper is no quick or easy thing, and given how many cups CHI and PIT won ... well drafting near the top (1-4) has a lot of appeal but for sure also isn't a sure thing (EDM-BUFF)... we are lucky to have one of the best young cores in the league - it usually doesn't work out that way.   As far as placeholders go that's a different subject ... anyone nervous about losing Sutter yet though (lol...I am)...

 

Edit:  In case you struggle with arithmetic ... over a ten year period with 30 or so teams... and JB has a chance at 4/10.    Just another way to point out to those foolish folks that still hang onto this futile idea that JB drafting isn't very good ... because JV and OJ didnt meet expectations.  

Edited March 19, 2021 by IBatch

[Devron]

17 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Simple solution:

2 points for a regulation win.

1 point for an overtime win either 3 on 3 or shootout.

0 points for any loss. 

 

Players would be so cautious in OT even more so then now. Make for a hell of a last 5 mins in the 3rd though 

[Boudrias]

1 hour ago, IBatch said:

Soccer fans everywhere say that's for sure ok, and it's the most popular sport in the world.  IF there was no lockout, the shoot-out wouldn't exist.   There have been grumbling for awhile that it could be cancelled.   Don't know if Bettman will allow it as he's shown a propensity to ignore what fans like, and a stubbornness not to correct things he's done wrong (ARI, FLD and even a cup winner CAR team)....

 

For me at least, it's completely ridiculous.   3 x 3 OT is for sure enough, since that came in (because folks were tired of too many games being decided on shoot-outs) way more wins have occurred then 4 x 4 and 5 x 5 OT.  

 

Time to kill the shoot-out.   Teams STILL play for the "tie",  they thought this would stop it.   It hasn't.   Now teams just go for the gauranteed loser points instead.   There is absolutely nothing wrong with a tie.  

 

Edit:  There is a reason playoff hockey is the best season to watch.   Refs (at least for now ...) only call plays that actually affect the plays in a real way and let the little stuff go.  And if it's tied at the end they add periods until it's decided as team.  Not some ridiculous gimmick.   I'm glad Horvat didn't look like he gave a sh!t in the world trying to score last game in the shoot-out.   It's just stupid. 

I am reassuming my ‘lose for the pick mantra’! Another strong JB draft picking at a #10 or higher outweighs a short playoff fling. This season has clearly shown how far the group still has to go. 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Ghostsof1915]

9 minutes ago, Devron44 said:

Players would be so cautious in OT even more so then now. Make for a hell of a last 5 mins in the 3rd though 

My hope would be overtime would become a rare event, and even an overtime win is not much better than a loss. 

[CrippledCanuck]

2 hours ago, tas said:

or maybe because no one wants to spend 3 hours watching a game only to have it end in a tie. 

Your reply makes no sense to the original question of why is there even a loser point or even my response to the query....a game can end with a winner either in reg, OT or skills competition and still not need a loser point....the loser point is a participation ribbon, it rewards failure. 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[tas]

58 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Yes it is.   I will begrudgingly admit i watch the shoot-outs ... but win or lose it always just doesn't feel the same.   Maybe if we badly outplayed them and win it feels pretty good.    But that's about it.   Loser points also changed what getting 100 points in this league used to mean.   It used to mean an incredible accomplishment.   We did it in 93 and a couple times with the WCE era teams ... outstanding.   Wonder what our 117 or so points look like by taking away any OT/Shoot-out wins - making them ties... don't know because it's not like Luongo was very good at it lol.   There was a time when 90 points was good.   Now 100 points is the new 90, and 110 points is the new 100. 

they're all just meaningless numbers. who cares?

 

all I know is that 4v4/3v3 ot would be way less exciting with both teams playing not to lose. 

[tas]

2 minutes ago, CrippledCanuck said:

Your reply makes no sense to the original question of why is there even a loser point or even my response to the query....a game can end with a winner either in reg, OT or skills competition and still not need a loser point....the loser point is a participation ribbon, it rewards failure. 

if teams secure the 1 point in regulation, they can play overtime to win instead of being afraid to lose. it's more exciting, better hockey. 

[EternalCanuckFan]

7 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

If it's just over 2-weeks, then that's not so bad.  Even 3-weeks.  Over that and I assume we'll be seeing Pearson end the season as a Canuck.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

['NucK™]

22 minutes ago, EternalCanuckFan said:

If it's just over 2-weeks, then that's not so bad.  Even 3-weeks.  Over that and I assume we'll be seeing Pearson end the season as a Canuck.

At least 4 weeks

[Mrwipeout]

well this season went from bad to worse....

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Me_]

6 minutes ago, Mrwipeout said:

well this season went from bad to worse....

Definitely know what you mean...

 

The Canucks have won six of their least seven.

 

Absolutely unacceptable. It does not go with the narrative of most fans.

 

Imagine if they make the playoffs, or better, if they barely miss...

 

I think they should just sit the rest of the season. Middle of the ice. Don’t even bother suiting up.

 

Fire Benning before they win much more.

 

Edited March 19, 2021 by Me_

[Primal Optimist]

I believe we can at the very least take half the points in this two game Habs fest. 

I honestly think that the team has improved dramatically and that Holtby could win one for us in either game!

[-Moose]

Loui > Roussel