Coconuts Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: Fair point for sure, they could then trade M. Staal to a contender for whatever they can get and get a replacement player who should help bring more offense from the back end. Could also move him in a year or 2 with retention to get value back on him if he turned his game around I don't think Staal holds much value at this point tbh. He's had a rough go with injuries, and was basically dumped on Detroit to clear his cap if I remember correctly. Someone might take him as a depth piece if Detroit were to retain cap, but I dunno. I don't think this is it for Staal, he's unlikely to win a cup at this point so I imagine he'll try to at least hit 1000 games. He's getting there, currently being at 928. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Mackcanuck said: Just might have something to do with this https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/gostisbehere-brutally-honest-flyers-hanging-goalies-dry/ we hang demko and jacob out to dry alot too, so the ghost would not like it in vancouver haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AV. Posted March 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2021 Alain Vigneault slander in this thread? Hate to see it. Put some respect on the name of one of the greatest NHL coaches in history. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Alain Vigneault slander in this thread? Hate to see it. Put some respect on the name of one of the greatest NHL coaches in history. There's a difference between respect and criticizing. You can do both. Otherwise to criticize the Canucks would be to not respect them by your logic. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coryberg Posted March 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2021 I saw Shayne and O'Brian and was like... 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Doesn't feel like long ago when he played for team NA in the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, CR7 said: The Average/Oversized guys under Baummer are no better, so your argument is moot... Until we have a better staff we will continue to concede shots/attempts at a higher rate than we generate Not really. A defense still needs to be capable of suppressing shots and stopping opposition players from crashing the crease. Size still matters. But yes, as I pointed out, under Baumgartner's tutelage, this team, no matter the personnel on defense, will suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Not really. A defense still needs to be capable of suppressing shots and stopping opposition players from crashing the crease. Size still matters. But yes, as I pointed out, under Baumgartner's tutelage, this team, no matter the personnel on defense, will suffer. its a real possibility that Green et al are back Phil. So in that context who should we target? probably not another guy suspect in his own end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: its a real possibility that Green et al are back Phil. So in that context who should we target? probably not another guy suspect in his own end. If they all return, this team will continue to bleed in their own end. It's a mistake to keep the entire coaching staff. They shouldn't target anyone until that issue is remedied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: If they all return, this team will continue to bleed in their own end. It's a mistake to keep the entire coaching staff. They shouldn't target anyone until that issue is remedied. totally agree, just think thats more likely than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Gonna be interesting to see if Ghost gets claimed. His contract is front loaded, so if a team takes him, they only pay $3.25M annual salary for the remaining years on that $4.5M cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said: He has impressive coaching stats for sure, my question is: Was it the right decision to call out his young 22yr old G and make a statement basically blasting his work ethic in practice? It could turn out to be tough love and the player responds, doesn't always work though...look at Virtanen Hey I’m not saying he’s a good dude, he could be a complete dick for all I know, I’m just saying his record as an NHL coach is verifiable that he is good at that job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 If Canucks didn't have Schmidt or Hughes then they should pick up Shayne Gostisbehere if given the chance. A d-man with elite offensive skill is just too enticing to pass up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, canuck2288 said: Maybe pick up your mic you just dropped and ask yourself how your saviour Green is doing? under 500 with playoffs out of the question But who knows? Maybe we will get another Covid playoff invitation? Most of us are pushing for Gallant but frankly a cardboard cutout would do a better job than Green certainly would call an equal amount of timeouts How about you judge Green fairly for the year. Not much a coach can do to help a struggling young team find their team defence when you don't have any practices because you have the most dense schedule in the NHL in a season where everyone's schedule is ridiculously dense. I judge the coaching staff on before and after that point. Guess what? The team performed WAY better once Green was actually able to run a practice or two and get to work. Not only could they not practice early, but players weren't allowed to congregate in hotel rooms, making it hard to even go over theory for how he wants the team to play. The team after that point was looking like one of the top teams in the division like we were all hoping, obviously its been derailed again...but its probably Green's fault that Petey, Sutter, Beagle, Pearson are all hurt at the same time. Has the team performed worse than expected? Sure. Was the team always going to regress from last year even if we brought back last years entire roster? Absolutely. If you judge a coach by how many timeouts he calls opposed to how the team changes their performance after time off to work on it...than you are hopeless. I am truly interested in hearing why you think Green sucks, beyond: timeouts, resting Demko on back to backs, and the team is doing worse than last year because those are nonsensical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 If Philly is waiving Gostisbehere they could be trying to clear CAP space. Maybe someone takes him. It appears that AV thinks he cannot play defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Alain Vigneault said: Alain Vigneault slander in this thread? Hate to see it. Put some respect on the name of one of the greatest NHL coaches in history. Uhm? What exactly gives him the distinction of “one of the greatest NHL coaches in history “? He won the Jack Adam’s back in 2007. Other than that he’s won nothing. He’s a decent coach. But one of the all time greats? Not remotely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Some serious question marks about Gostisbehere's defensive play (not only this season) but it seems quite probable that a team with cap space would pick him up. He might also be helpful to pick up if a team is OK with losing him in expansion since he might be an enticing pickup by the Kraken. As someone else pointed out, his cap hit's not great but his actual salary would probably be seen as significant cash savings for some teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Swank Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Uhm? What exactly gives him the distinction of “one of the greatest NHL coaches in history “? He won the Jack Adam’s back in 2007. Other than that he’s won nothing. He’s a decent coach. But one of the all time greats? Not remotely He's 8th all time in wins, that's pretty good. Definitely better than decent Edited March 30, 2021 by Tank Swank 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Tank Swank said: He's 8th all time in wins, that's pretty good Talk to me when he’s coached a team to a cup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Poor ol' AV..appears Philly has given up the Ghost! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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