Gaudette and 7 others test positive for Covid - All games till Apr 6th Postponed

[qwijibo]

11 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I know, but he's their most aggressive F and their C depth is not strong, so there's no one up the middle thats going to replace that. 

Their centre depth hadn’t changed. In fact it got stronger with the addition of Staal.  I don’t know why you’re harping on the C position. Today’s practice lines had Kotkaniemi sliding into Gallagher’s RW slot and Evan’s back up the 4C (where he’s played most the year). They also just got  Toffoli back from injury. Add in the fact that Caufield has finished his covid quarantine and could be called up.  The kid is a natural goal scorer and plays RW.
in addition. They’ll be getting Armia back from covid soon.  
 

 They might take a little hit. But a full on slide seems unlikely to me. They lack the elite top end talent but have  quality depth through the forward lineup.  The loss of Gallagher won’t create as big ripple as you seem to think. 

Edited April 7, 2021 by qwijibo

[JM_]

3 minutes ago, qwijibo said:

Their centre depth hadn’t changed. In fact it got stronger with the addition of Staal.  I don’t know why you’re harping on the C position. Today’s practice lines had Kotkaniemi sliding into Gallagher’s RW slot and Evan’s back up the 4C (where he’s played most the year). They also just got  Toffoli back from injury. Add in the fact that Caufield has finished his covid quarantine and could be called up.  The kid is a natural goal scorer and plays RW.  They might take a little hit. But a full on slide seems unlikely to me. They lack the elite top end talent but have  quality depth through the forward lineup.  The loss of Gallagher won’t create as big ripple as you seem to think. 

Caufield weighs as much as my labrador after a swim.

 

We'll see. Gallagher is the heart of that team, its a big loss. 

[qwijibo]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Caufield weighs as much as my labrador after a swim.

 

We'll see. Gallagher is the heart of that team, its a big loss. 

With the addition of Staal Montreal now has the 4th biggest team in the league. Adding a small winger isn’t a big deal. Especially when the guy he’s replacing us small too.  They also have Armia coming back from covid soon.  Yes losing Gallagher hurts. But the team has the depth to deal with it. I guess we’ll see. It’s still extremely unlikely that Vancouver comes close to catching them. 
 

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by qwijibo

[mll]

4 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

So is there any word on when the Canucks play again? 

Can we wait for our players to get better or do we need to dress the comets?

Once they can safely return they’ll probably play even if they have players still recovering.

 

The most extreme situation so far was Minnesota where games started when they still had 9 lineup regulars out with Covid.  Their situation on D was particularly ridiculous where they were still missing 5 of their top 7 Ds and their starting goalie.

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by mll

[wai_lai416]

4 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

So is there any word on when the Canucks play again? 

Can we wait for our players to get better or do we need to dress the comets?

i guess it depends how many players recover in time and ready to play? samsonov had covid and wasn't he like out for 3-4 weeks?

[4petesake]

19 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

i guess it depends how many players recover in time and ready to play? samsonov had covid and wasn't he like out for 3-4 weeks?

Marco Rossi of the Minnesota Wild was diagnosed with Covid on in November. He has been working with specialists in Austria and recent tests indicate he is nearly ready to resume light training. 
 

While this has not been the norm it does show how bad it can be. Let’s hope for the best for our guys.

[babalu]

 

[Provost]

On 4/6/2021 at 9:45 AM, apollo said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/northkoreadprk?lang=en

 

If you want propaganda stick to North Korea Twitter. Less propaganda than Dregers or any of this trash Tarrana media causing a panic in our fan base. 

 

WE DO NOT HAVE 20 POSITIVE CASES. Anyone that breathed air beside guads and Sutter was added to protocol for safety. 

 

Jim's just not coming out to say anything because he learned from Bergevins cheating when he needed Montreal players to rest up injuries. 

 

Stay calm. Stay safe. Don't be a covidiot. FOLLOW PROVINCE GUIDELINES 

Well this series of rants didn’t age well....

 

It also doesn’t take much to connect that dots that the guys are eating at one of the downtown restaurants that was closed down due to COVID, including the Aquilini run one.

 

Edit: this was all but confirmed when the NHL came out to reaffirm their policy against dining out as recent non compliance caused exposures.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/canucks-announce-25-positive-covid-19-cases-organization/

Edited April 8, 2021 by Provost

[DSVII]

With talk that we may have to put players on LTIR and that some guys will opt out the season for safety concern reasons (Which i fully support). Wonder if there is potential here for JB to have extra cap space this deadline to facilitate some three way trades or take on expiring UFA deals for other teams to make moves.

 

Could be an interesting place we find ourselves in. 

 

I.e

Buffalo trades Taylor Hall to us at 50%, then we trade hall at 50% (so 2 mil hit) retained to another team in exchange for picks

Edited April 7, 2021 by DSVII

[RU SERIOUS]

1 hour ago, Provost said:

Well this series of rants didn’t age well....

 

It also doesn’t take much to connect that dots that the gu us ere eating at one of the downtown restaurants that was closed down due to COVID, including the Aquilini run one.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/canucks-announce-25-positive-covid-19-cases-organization/

 

Are you speculating that Aqua-Lini's overpriced restaurant contaminated them?  That would mean the theory that Adam Gaudette's wife was the one responsible for contaminating everyone after a trip to Whistler is down the tubes. 

 

Now I'm not sure which of the two conspiracy theories is the spiciest to support.   I'll have to think about this further.....LOL

[DarthMelvin]

20 hours ago, VegasCanuck said:

Scary $&!#: As many as 30% of people who have had Covid are suffering from brain disease

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/health/covid-neurological-psychological-lancet-wellness/index.html

They found 34% of Covid-19 survivors received a diagnosis for a neurological or psychological condition within six months of their infection, according to the study published Tuesday in the journal Lancet Psychiatry.

 

Other, smaller studies have pointed to the result. One study in February followed 381 patients treated for Covid-19 at a hospital in Rome, Italy and found that 30% of them experienced post-traumatic stress disorder after recovery.

 

Alot of this is from stress and anxiety caused by media and fear mongers who go by title rather than content. People who read only the first paragraph of the article and then quote and post that first line to forums. 

[Provost]

2 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said:

 

Are you speculating that Aqua-Lini's overpriced restaurant contaminated them?  That would mean the theory that Adam Gaudette's wife was the one responsible for contaminating everyone after a trip to Whistler is down the tubes. 

 

Now I'm not sure which of the two conspiracy theories is the spiciest to support.   I'll have to think about this further.....LOL

Well the official statement said it was caught at a location with has been announced by public health as a site for exposures.  There were three restaurants downtown put on that list as the only locations that fit the timing.  
 

That means it is almost certainly one of those three places... unless a player was up in Whistler on their days off partying.
 

 

[Gurn]

3 hours ago, DSVII said:

 

 

 

I.e

Buffalo trades Taylor Hall to us at 50%, then we trade hall at 50% (so 2 mil hit) retained to another team in exchange for picks

Interesting idea.

[qwijibo]

3 hours ago, DSVII said:

With talk that we may have to put players on LTIR and that some guys will opt out the season for safety concern reasons (Which i fully support). Wonder if there is potential here for JB to have extra cap space this deadline to facilitate some three way trades or take on expiring UFA deals for other teams to make moves.

 

Could be an interesting place we find ourselves in. 

 

I.e

Buffalo trades Taylor Hall to us at 50%, then we trade hall at 50% (so 2 mil hit) retained to another team in exchange for picks

If I’m not mistaken the option for players to opt out of okaying due to the covid risk was Dec 27. They no longer have that option without facing penalties. I’m not sure how the league is treating players out with covid with respect to LTIR.  If it was an option you’d think teams would do it as soon as a player entered covid protocol (which I don’t think anyone has). 

[apollo]

5 hours ago, Provost said:

Well this series of rants didn’t age well....

 

It also doesn’t take much to connect that dots that the gu us ere eating at one of the downtown restaurants that was closed down due to COVID, including the Aquilini run one.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/canucks-announce-25-positive-covid-19-cases-organization/

 

Lol yes I agree with u it did age well... Kinda funny how I rant on some times lol... There was some sense in my rambling tho

 

The die hard in me felt attacked by the Tarrana media mafia... Now that the team confirmed, I believe it. Still think it was shady at the time and only 2 guys reported severe symptoms from what I saw. 

 

I still don't think it's the end of the world. Far more people have got covid who are in far more vulnerable positions than our glorious boys. As much as I love them, my worry for them here is %1 of what it is for our vulnerable across the country and across the globe during this pandemic. 

 

People lost jobs, lost family members to suicide, lost homes... Look at the homeless on our streets... The situation has gotten worse and it's sickening. 

 

Gotta give major shout out to The AquaFam for their nutritious meals they are giving out and their support of mental health in the city 

 

Also dreger is north Korea of hockey media lol... I stand by it. So is that entire Tarrana media mafia that storms their garbo down our throats (was watching lots of NK documentaries recently, the comparison makes me chuckle. Could make a good meme for sure lol) 

 

Love & positivity always wins in the face of adversity though. I don't like pounding alarm bells, gives me anxiety. 

 

Our boys will be back strong. 

 

[stawns]

8 minutes ago, apollo said:

 

Lol yes I agree with u it did age well... Kinda funny how I rant on some times lol... There was some sense in my rambling tho

 

 

The die hard in me felt attacked by the Tarrana media mafia... Now that the team confirmed, I believe it. Still think it was shady at the time and only 2 guys reported severe symptoms from what I saw. 

 

I still don't think it's the end of the world. Far more people have got covid who are in far more vulnerable positions than our glorious boys. As much as I love them, my worry for them here is %1 of what it is for our vulnerable across the country and across the globe during this pandemic. 

 

People lost jobs, lost family members to suicide, lost homes... Look at the homeless on our streets... The situation has gotten worse and it's sickening. 

 

Gotta give major shout out to The AquaFam for their nutritious meals they are giving out and their support of mental health in the city 

 

Also dreger is north Korea of hockey media lol... I stand by it. So is that entire Tarrana media mafia that storms their garbo down our throats (was watching lots of NK documentaries recently, the comparison makes me chuckle. Could make a good meme for sure lol) 

 

Love & positivity always wins in the face of adversity though. I don't like pounding alarm bells, gives me anxiety. 

 

Our boys will be back strong. 

 

Actually

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/suicides-alberta-bc-saskatchewan-canada-2020-no-increase-1.5902908

[MikeyD]

5 hours ago, DSVII said:

With talk that we may have to put players on LTIR and that some guys will opt out the season for safety concern reasons (Which i fully support). Wonder if there is potential here for JB to have extra cap space this deadline to facilitate some three way trades or take on expiring UFA deals for other teams to make moves.

 

Could be an interesting place we find ourselves in. 

 

I.e

Buffalo trades Taylor Hall to us at 50%, then we trade hall at 50% (so 2 mil hit) retained to another team in exchange for picks

Can you even do that? I thought the max a contract could be retained in total was 50%.

[MikeyD]

42 minutes ago, stawns said:

Actually

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/suicides-alberta-bc-saskatchewan-canada-2020-no-increase-1.5902908

To be fair, suicide numbers don't include suicides by overdose because they can't technically prove in something like over 95% of cases that it was somebody intended to kill themselves or if it was an accidentally large dosage. 

 

There has been a big uptick if I remember correctly with overdose deaths since covid started. I think like 57% or something if I remember correctly. 

Edited April 8, 2021 by MikeyD

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

2 hours ago, MikeyD said:

Can you even do that? I thought the max a contract could be retained in total was 50%.

50% is the max per transaction.

 

I believe only two retained salary transactions can exist on a contract (I’ll have to check on that).

 

But you can absolutely retain 50%, trade to another team, and then that team can retain 50% (of what remains on the contract) on the next trade.

 

Teams are each limited to 3 retained salary transactions. And the total amount retained by any team can not exceed 15% of the salary cap upper limit.

 

EDIT: And yes, only two retained salaries can exist on a contract.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/how-the-nhls-new-salary-trading-system-works/article7033878/

 

 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2021 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME

[MikeyD]

23 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

50% is the max per transaction.

 

I believe only two retained salary transactions can exist on a contract (I’ll have to check on that).

 

But you can absolutely retain 50%, trade to another team, and then that team can retain 50% (of what remains on the contract) on the next trade.

 

Teams are each limited to 3 retained salary transactions. And the total amount retained by any team can not exceed 15% of the salary cap upper limit.

 

EDIT: And yes, only two retained salaries can exist on a contract.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/how-the-nhls-new-salary-trading-system-works/article7033878/

 

 

 

 

Nice find! Thanks!