Popular Post Patel Bure Posted March 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) edit - proposal revised to swap Schmidt instead of Horvat [proposal] Schmidt + Miller + 1st and Rathbone for Jack Eichel, and what next season would look like Pure hypothetical, let’s say the above takes place. The Canucks also find a way to get rid of Eriksson (completely off the books) while signing Larsson. Roussel-Eichel-Boeser Hoglander-Pettersson-Virtanen Pearson-Horvat-Podkolzin Motte-Beagle-Highmore Hughes-Larsson Edler-Hamonic Juolevi-Myers Demko ##### How would this look? Edited May 29, 2021 by Patel Bure 3 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Master Mind Posted March 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2021 I wouldn't want to send Horvat (or anyone) to Buffalo. That's just cruel. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted March 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) Horvat and Miller are two of the exact players you need in the playoffs to win a Cup. We already have Petey, so no need to trade for Eichel. I'd rather keep what we have and add our kids to the lineup. A 3C and a partner for Hughes are more important than trading two core players and a potential stud offensive defenceman in Rathbone for another 1C which we already have. Edited March 31, 2021 by Elias Pettersson 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzy Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, DarkIndianRises said: [proposal] ####-Schmidt Hughes-Tryamkin Juolevi-Myers -2 elite dmen (one young) Ignoring the actual trade, because you don't trade your captain, this particular phrase was a surprise. I'll give you Hughes, though it's looking increasingly likely that he's going to need a Tanev next to him for the whole of his career. But who out of Schmidt / Tryamkin / Juolevi and Myers are 'elite'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe-max Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 So you suggest trading our captain, who is also a great 2C, a 1LW, a top D-prospect and a 1st rounder for an injury prone 1C with almost the same cap hit as the package combined, and filling the holes created by that move with UFAs? Not sure that sounds like a winning strategy. I wouldn't mind Eichel on the team, but the price is too steep. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Replace horvat with loui and we can talk, otherwise hard pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, joe-max said: So you suggest trading our captain, who is also a great 2C, a 1LW, a top D-prospect and a 1st rounder for an injury prone 1C with almost the same cap hit as the package combined, and filling the holes created by that move with UFAs? Not sure that sounds like a winning strategy. I wouldn't mind Eichel on the team, but the price is too steep. Actually I am sure for Buffalo's perspective that wouldn't be enough. I would say this though a team would Eichel, Pettersson, and Hughes would prove to be a deadly and dangerous team. During the 2015 draft word around is that if Eichel wasn't drafted the same year as McDavid he would have gone first in any other year after 2005 except maybe Stamkos. Will it leave a few more holes ? Perhaps but Eichel > Horvat, and Rathbone looks like he can be replaced. Miller will be a loss but I am not sure Canucks could afford Miller once his contract is up to begin with unless he signs for Toffoli money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Azzy said: Ignoring the actual trade, because you don't trade your captain, this particular phrase was a surprise. I'll give you Hughes, though it's looking increasingly likely that he's going to need a Tanev next to him for the whole of his career. But who out of Schmidt / Tryamkin / Juolevi and Myers are 'elite'? Schmidt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, iinatcc said: Actually I am sure for Buffalo's perspective that wouldn't be enough. I would say this though a team would Eichel, Pettersson, and Hughes would prove to be a deadly and dangerous team. During the 2015 draft word around is that if Eichel wasn't drafted the same year as McDavid he would have gone first in any other year after 2005 except maybe Stamkos. Will it leave a few more holes ? Perhaps but Eichel > Horvat, and Rathbone looks like he can be replaced. Miller will be a loss but I am not sure Canucks could afford Miller once his contract is up to begin with unless he signs for Toffoli money. I probably still wouldn’t make the Eichel deal for many of the reasons stated in this thread (ie too big of a hit in terms of team chemistry and depth), but MAN, this idea does have me thinking and pondering. An Eichel/Pettersson combo would put us up there with the Oilers, Leafs, Lightning, Avs, and Pens in terms of superstar combos: -McDavid + Draisaitl -Matthews + Tavares + Marner + Reilly -Crosby + Malkin + Letang -Point + Stamkos + Hedman + Vasilevsky -Mackinnon + Raantanen + Landeskog + Makar -Eichel + Pettersson + Boeser + Hughes + Demko Eichel/Pettersson/Boeser/Hughes/Demko would put us in that tier. Not only that, but with all of our bad contracts off the books before the start of the 2022-2023 season, you’d likely create a scenario in which UFA’s might actually be willing to take slight discounts in order to play for us. For example, why does Hampus Lindholm say no to coming to Vancouver in the 2022 summer? What other good UFA’s would NOT look at Vancouver as a legit opportunity? Podkolzin-Eichel-Boeser Hoglander-Pettersson-Virtanen ###-###-### Motte-Boyd-Gaudette Lindholm-Schmidt Hughes-Tryamkin Juolevi-Myers Demko Dipietro Or as the guys on 650 Sportsnet might say........I’m not saying, but I’m just saying... Edited March 31, 2021 by DarkIndianRises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzy Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, DarkIndianRises said: Schmidt Hard to take this seriously when you describe a guy with minimal offense and three times more giveaways than takeaways as 'elite'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, DarkIndianRises said: [proposal] Horvat + Miller + 1st and Rathbone for Jack Eichel, and what 2022-2023 would look like Pure hypothetical, let’s say the above takes place. After next season, when all of Eriksson, Beagle, and Roussel are off the books, our core would look like the following: Hoglander-Eichel-Boeser ####-Pettersson-Podkolzin ####-####-#### Motte-###-### ####-Schmidt Hughes-Tryamkin Juolevi-Myers Demko ##### -2 young Franchise centers -2 elite dmen (one young) -1 elite young goalie If you are a UFA looking to join “the next big thing,” would YOU say no to the above based on the core pieces in tact? That would be the worst trade in the Canuck 51 years? Horvat solid 200 foot player 24 -28 goals 60 points ---- Miller 6'1 - 1st line LW/ C -- 60 -- 65 point Rathbone 22 -- Top 3 D man soon -------- 1st round pick ? top 15... Eichel -- Not equal to the four player your giving up... Would make trade only if we get back --Eichel, 24 ---Dahlin 22 --- 2021 , 2nd rounder 32rd ----- 3rd rounder 2022.. We don't need to make tho trade so need this kind of return.. Horvat, Miller, Rathbone --- 1st rounder - Great for Buffalo... Eichel 24 -- Dahlin 22-- 2021 -2nd rounder 32 overall pick -- 3rd rounder 2022 ---- Good for Vancouver Dahlin would turn into a superstar D man -- Eichel would be a 85 point guy Edited March 31, 2021 by wildcam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Right now nobody on the team makes more than $6M. That’s going to change, but why make it worse? If you trade for Eichel, and Petey outplays him, that pretty much guarantees that EP gets $10M+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 9 hours ago, DarkIndianRises said: If you are a UFA looking to join “the next big thing,” would YOU say no to the above based on the core pieces in tact? Honestly, if I was a UFA, I'd rather say yes to Hoglander-Horvat-Boeser Miller-Pettersson-Podkolzin ####-####-#### Motte-###-### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 We’ve seen this proposal 50 different times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 10 hours ago, Master Mind said: I wouldn't want to send Horvat (or anyone) to Buffalo. That's just cruel. Where careers go to die. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, timberz21 said: Honestly, if I was a UFA, I'd rather say yes to Hoglander-Horvat-Boeser Miller-Pettersson-Podkolzin ####-####-#### Motte-###-### Motte has enough talent and great speed to play on 3rd line... Miller - Petey -- Hoglander Boeser -- Horvat -- Podkolzin Motte ---Boyd --- _Vesey______ -------Virtanen if not moved in off season---Lind MacEwen - Beagle --________ Roussel - Gadjovich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, wildcam said: Motte has enough talent and great speed to play on 3rd line... Miller - Petey -- Hoglander Boeser -- Horvat -- Podkolzin Motte ---Boyd --- _Vesey______ -------Virtanen if not moved in off season---Lind MacEwen - Beagle --________ Roussel - Gadjovich Man. Im feeling that 3rd line... MOTTE - BOYD - VESEY Dunno why... but I have a feeling this line will be dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jester13 Posted March 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2021 This is the first time I've laughed at someone's post that wasn't meant to be funny, but this proposal is just simply laughable. What an overpayment. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 NO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, D-Money said: Right now nobody on the team makes more than $6M. That’s going to change, but why make it worse? If you trade for Eichel, and Petey outplays him, that pretty much guarantees that EP gets $10M+. ep gonna get close to 10 regardless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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