AK_19 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) With the new signings of Demko ($5mil) and Pearson ($3.25mil), we are under some serious problems with icing a decent team next year. Next year we have $17,473,121 million in cap space with 15 players signed. Capfriendly states its only 12 players signed but I'm assuming they aren't counting currently injured players. Signed Next Year: Forwards Boeser $5.87 mil Horvat $5.50 mil Miller $5.25 mil Pearson. $3.25 mil Roussel $3.00 mil Beagle. $3.00 mil Virtanen $2.55 mil Motte $1.25 mil Hoglander $0.90 mil Macewan $0.80 mil Not counting Ferland here Defensemen Myers $6.00 mil Schmidt. $5.95 mil Goalies Demko. $5.0 mil Holtby $4.3 mil Line up as of now is: Pearson Horvat Virtanen Hoglander Miller Boeser Roussel Macewan Motte _______ Beagle _______ Schmidt Myers _____ _____ _____ _____ Demko Holtby RFAs we have are: Pettersson Hughes Gaudette Tryamkin Joulevi Pettersson and Hughes will be signed. Because of only having 17 million to work with and a number of roster spots that still need to be filled up, the need to give them bridge contracts is pretty certain. Based on comparables, I think they will be signed to: Pettersson 7mil x 3. Basically the Barzal contract Hughes 6mil x 3/4. This one is tougher because most teams lock up young elite dmen for longer terms. Mcavoy was the closest I can find for 5mil but Hughes is better. I recognize these numbers are likely on the lower side, if anything. That leaves us with 4-5 million with excellent contracts to our core players. I don't know where to find the numbers but I believe 1 million is also reserved for bonus overages from this year. So we've now got 3-4 million and 7 roster spots to fill. Even if they all took minimum wage, this is basically impossible without significant trades and/or use of buyouts. What is definitely clear is there is no way Edler or Sutter are returning or any UFA of any significance can be signed next off-season. Just to fit our team under the cap, a number of these players need to be waived (I don't think they are tradeable without losing assets): Eriksson - Saves us only 1 mil from his current cap hit on the taxi squad. It also means we carry a cap hit for future years for such a small pay-off. Holtby - Saves us 3.8 million. I hated the contract from the beginning but I'm glad it was structured in a way to be an effective buyout. Despite mentions here of him being potentially targeted by Seattle, I don't see it. There are at least three goalies that will be exposed better than Holtby. Beagle/Roussel - would save us each 1.5 mil next year. Not much in savings when considering we also still need to replace their roster spots with at least an 800k player. Virtanen - saves us 2.5 mil. Honestly, Virtanen and Holtby may both be required here and the only ones worthwhile for the buyout. Those two buyouts help us fill in the rest of our roster at least internally: Gaudette - 1.0 mil Tryamkin - 1.5 mil Joulevi - 900k Rathbone -900k Lind - 900k Gadjovich - 900k Podkolzin -900k Chatfield -800k Dipietro - 800k That leaves us with a roster of: Miller-Pete-Boeser Pearson-Horvat-Podkolzin Motte-Gaudette-Hoglander Roussel-Beagle-Macewan Lind, Gadjovich Hughes-Tryamkin Joulevi-Schmidt Rathbone-Myers Chatfield Demko Dipietro The only way I see us re-signing Edler/Sutter or a decent UFA is if Seattle picks up Myers in addition to the buyouts suggested. I'm expecting a very rookie-heavy roster next season. Personally, this looks godawful for next season. EDIT: Forgot Goalies Edited April 9, 2021 by AK_19 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 They must have a plan. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Podkolzin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 Loui must be retiring and Aquilini must have given the green light on some buyouts, specifically Holtby. That's the only thing that makes sense to sign Pearson so early and at that deal. Aquilini had to approve this deal, no way Benning signs Pearson to a 3 year deal prior to the summer without Aquilini's approval. Which tells me Benning isn't going anywhere. 1 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Holtby and potentially Jake + Beagle may be off the books. There's definitely going to be buyouts. The important thing is to have no expectations next year and sign 1 year UFA journeymen, then see if you can make a push for 2022-23 before we are due to give Horvat, Miller, and Hogs a raise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drakrami Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) Until Tryamkin really does sign here, I facepalm whenever anyone counts on him to be playing for us every next season. Edited April 9, 2021 by Drakrami 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_19 Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Until Tryamkin really does sign here, I facepalm whenever anyone counts on him to be playing for us every next season. Not really the point here but if you don't think he's going to be here just swap him with another 1.5 mil dman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 They must know something we don’t or have a can’t-fail plan to move money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 She’s all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Loui must be retiring and Aquilini must have given the green light on some buyouts, specifically Holtby. That's the only thing that makes sense to sign Pearson so early and at that deal. Aquilini had to approve this deal, no way Benning signs Pearson to a 3 year deal prior to the summer without Aquilini's approval. Which tells me Benning isn't going anywhere. This is what I gather as well. They already know they're getting rid of a couple contracts. Still not a good contract, IMO, but I can see their rationale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 no way Tryamkin signs at a mill he's gonna want 2.25-2.75 Pearson signing is baffling he's a third line winger Roussel better be bought out, Eriksson better retire, beagle better be taken by Seattle. Thats a extra 10.5 mill in cap. Myers, Sutter, Edler, Virtanen, Gaudette, Miller traded at deadline frees another 24.5 We still don't have a decent 3rd line center. I hope benning is fired if this doesn't happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: This is what I gather as well. They already know they're getting rid of a couple contracts. Still not a good contract, IMO, but I can see their rationale. On the surface it's not a good deal. But behind the scenes we don't know what is going on. So we will need to see what else transpires. For all we know Loui has already agreed to retire as long as he can collect his bonus in the summer. And Holtby might be bought out as well. If those two things happen that frees up almost $10 million in cap space. Enough to sign Petey and Hughes plus go shopping for a legit 3C. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: On the surface it's not a good deal. But behind the scenes we don't know what is going on. So we will need to see what else transpires. For all we know Loui has already agreed to retire as long as he can collect his bonus in the summer. And Holtby might be bought out as well. If those two things happen that frees up almost $10 million in cap space. Enough to sign Petey and Hughes plus go shopping for a legit 3C. Unless they are injured with life altering injuries like Dorsett, i find it hard to believe Loui would walk away from even $1 million risk free considering they know this is most likely their last NHL contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 OP is not including Ferland, but capfriendly is. Either Ferland can play and is on the roster or his LTIR carries over. That's a 3.5 million difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: They must have a plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, canuktravella said: no way Tryamkin signs at a mill he's gonna want 2.25-2.75 Pearson signing is baffling he's a third line winger Roussel better be bought out, Eriksson better retire, beagle better be taken by Seattle. Thats a extra 10.5 mill in cap. Myers, Sutter, Edler, Virtanen, Gaudette, Miller traded at deadline frees another 24.5 We still don't have a decent 3rd line center. I hope benning is fired if this doesn't happen. why would they wan't our garbage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, canuktravella said: no way Tryamkin signs at a mill he's gonna want 2.25-2.75 Pearson signing is baffling he's a third line winger Roussel better be bought out, Eriksson better retire, beagle better be taken by Seattle. Thats a extra 10.5 mill in cap. Myers, Sutter, Edler, Virtanen, Gaudette, Miller traded at deadline frees another 24.5 We still don't have a decent 3rd line center. I hope benning is fired if this doesn't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spur1 Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Exactly...all this drama, fire JB. I mean come on he just signed a decent player for a half a million less than he was making for 3 years. Pearson has probably reached his plateau but he has been very durable and dependable and is still under 30. Did I mention $500,000 LESS. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Loui must be retiring and Aquilini must have given the green light on some buyouts, specifically Holtby. That's the only thing that makes sense to sign Pearson so early and at that deal. Aquilini had to approve this deal, no way Benning signs Pearson to a 3 year deal prior to the summer without Aquilini's approval. Which tells me Benning isn't going anywhere. My guess is that the Canucks either have a plan in place for Loui, OR, they know definitively that Beagle will be LTIRetired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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