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[Trade] Canucks trade Adam Gaudette to Blackhawks for Matthew Highmore


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40 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Bone and Hughes are lightyears ahead of Stecher.  We all love Troy from Richmond.  

I specified "defensively".

 

I have high hopes for Rathbone, but he's still a work in progress. He has yet to prove he can be a full time NHL player...his defensive game needs a ton of work. And as far as I know Stetch never racked up a -24 in a single season, let alone a shortened season. 

 

Stetch is better than both defensively. 

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1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

I don't think that's very fair tbh. The Wings have some young, talented players on their right side that they probably want to give the ice time too. Obviously Stetch isn't going to displace Hronek or Seider, and even Lindstrom is a guy that's likely in their future plans. Stetcher is small and a bit older, but he's still a good hockey player. If Hughes and Rathbone could play as defensively sound as Stetcher I'd be tickled pink. Severely underrated in his time here. 

But surely, the Wings can find room to insert their "(arguably) best overall dman from last year (source = @wallstreetamigo)" into the line-up can they not?

 

Or is the narrative that "Benning letting the very underrated Stecher walk as yet another terrible move by management" completely bogus and ridiculous?

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3 hours ago, Patel Bure said:

But surely, the Wings can find room to insert their "(arguably) best overall dman from last year (source = @wallstreetamigo)" into the line-up can they not?

 

Or is the narrative that "Benning letting the very underrated Stecher walk as yet another terrible move by management" completely bogus and ridiculous?

Honestly, it wasn't a good move letting Stetch walk for nothing, especially given how little he signed for. How many times was Stetch penciled into a bottom pairing role only to end up getting top 4 minutes by the end of the season? Seems like that happened pretty much every year he was here. And there were certainly years here where he was in the conversation as our best overall defenseman. 

 

He was a warrior for us, and it saddens me to see this fanbase disrespect him just because he isn't in Canuck colours any more. We should be better than that.

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1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Honestly, it wasn't a good move letting Stetch walk for nothing, especially given how little he signed for. How many times was Stetch penciled into a bottom pairing role only to end up getting top 4 minutes by the end of the season? Seems like that happened pretty much every year he was here. And there were certainly years here where he was in the conversation as our best overall defenseman. 

 

He was a warrior for us, and it saddens me to see this fanbase disrespect him just because he isn't in Canuck colours any more. We should be better than that.

He served us well when he was here. Heart of a lion. 

Our team is at another stage now though. Wish him the best

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1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Honestly, it wasn't a good move letting Stetch walk for nothing, especially given how little he signed for. How many times was Stetch penciled into a bottom pairing role only to end up getting top 4 minutes by the end of the season? Seems like that happened pretty much every year he was here. And there were certainly years here where he was in the conversation as our best overall defenseman. 

 

He was a warrior for us, and it saddens me to see this fanbase disrespect him just because he isn't in Canuck colours any more. We should be better than that.

I liked him a lot, but we already lacked size in our D and he got pushed around in the playoffs despite his effort.  Great guy, didn't fit what the team needed.

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2 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Honestly, it wasn't a good move letting Stetch walk for nothing, especially given how little he signed for. How many times was Stetch penciled into a bottom pairing role only to end up getting top 4 minutes by the end of the season? Seems like that happened pretty much every year he was here. And there were certainly years here where he was in the conversation as our best overall defenseman. 

 

He was a warrior for us, and it saddens me to see this fanbase disrespect him just because he isn't in Canuck colours any more. We should be better than that.

Stech was making $2.3 and Benning would have had to give him a raise to keep him.  It's too much to pay for a bottom pairing player.  All the bottom pair guys now are making less than $1M.  Stech is making $1.7 and isn't even in the top 6 on the Wings.

 

I liked Stech too but he no longer fit with the Canucks

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I also want to point out that Gaudette is not flourishing so far in Chicago. He only has 8 minutes of playing time. 8 minutes. In two games, he's a -2.

 

Very small sample. Last season, he actually had a pretty good season (but also a very small sample).

 

The jury is still out on whether this guy can be a full time NHLer. As of right now, the trade is a win for the Canucks; however, if Gaudette improves, this could change. It's clear that Gaudette had next to no value at the time of the trade.

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3 hours ago, Dazzle said:

I also want to point out that Gaudette is not flourishing so far in Chicago. He only has 8 minutes of playing time. 8 minutes. In two games, he's a -2.

 

Very small sample. Last season, he actually had a pretty good season (but also a very small sample).

 

The jury is still out on whether this guy can be a full time NHLer. As of right now, the trade is a win for the Canucks; however, if Gaudette improves, this could change. It's clear that Gaudette had next to no value at the time of the trade.

He didn’t have trade value mostly due to the Canucks seriously destroying it by trying to turn him into something he isn’t. If they knew he wasn’t going to be the player to fill the hole in the roster they needed to use him to fill, pretty sure they would have gotten a lot more for him the previous offseason after he showed some offense at the NHL level.

 

Highmore is significantly overrated on cdc. He can skate fast and not much else.

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10 hours ago, Patel Bure said:

But surely, the Wings can find room to insert their "(arguably) best overall dman from last year (source = @wallstreetamigo)" into the line-up can they not?

 

Or is the narrative that "Benning letting the very underrated Stecher walk as yet another terrible move by management" completely bogus and ridiculous?

Stecher on our 3rd pairing right now would probably at least be able to be used more than 12 minutes and pk some so there’s that.

 

He played very well for Detroit so I stand by my months old comment that he was one of their best overall dmen. 

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4 hours ago, Dazzle said:

I also want to point out that Gaudette is not flourishing so far in Chicago. He only has 8 minutes of playing time. 8 minutes. In two games, he's a -2.

 

Very small sample. Last season, he actually had a pretty good season (but also a very small sample).

 

The jury is still out on whether this guy can be a full time NHLer. As of right now, the trade is a win for the Canucks; however, if Gaudette improves, this could change. It's clear that Gaudette had next to no value at the time of the trade.

Yeah well either way I think this doesn't look good on Benning either way. Either because it means Gaudette was a blue chip prospect that the Canucks failed to develop properly or that Gaudette was never going to be an NHL regardless how he was developed. Either way this is a miss on Gaudette's drafting and developing. 

And the recent misses on Juolevi, Lind, and Gadjovich isn't very encouraging either.


And yes the counter argument here is that "well all GM's and Teams miss out on the draft and their prospects", the difference here other teams can find ways to make up for their drafting misses. Plus with Benning giving up the last 2 1st round picks there was more pressure for one or two of these players to pan out for the team.  

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33 minutes ago, iinatcc said:

Yeah well either way I think this doesn't look good on Benning either way. Either because it means Gaudette was a blue chip prospect that the Canucks failed to develop properly or that Gaudette was never going to be an NHL regardless how he was developed. Either way this is a miss on Gaudette's drafting and developing. 

And the recent misses on Juolevi, Lind, and Gadjovich isn't very encouraging either.


And yes the counter argument here is that "well all GM's and Teams miss out on the draft and their prospects", the difference here other teams can find ways to make up for their drafting misses. Plus with Benning giving up the last 2 1st round picks there was more pressure for one or two of these players to pan out for the team.  


AG was never a blue chip prospect except in the eyes of us hopeful souls at CDC. Let’s not forget that he was the 28th pick in the 5th round where  less than 10% of 5th rounders will play 100 games, which he has surpassed. No 5th round picks are considered misses. MH was undrafted so zero expectations there. Higher ceiling for Gaudette for sure but I don’t expect either guy to move the needle much and  I doubt either of the two would be picked up if they were put on waivers.

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38 minutes ago, 4petesake said:


AG was never a blue chip prospect except in the eyes of us hopeful souls at CDC. Let’s not forget that he was the 28th pick in the 5th round where  less than 10% of 5th rounders will play 100 games, which he has surpassed. No 5th round picks are considered misses. MH was undrafted so zero expectations there. Higher ceiling for Gaudette for sure but I don’t expect either guy to move the needle much and  I doubt either of the two would be picked up if they were put on waivers.

No matter where he was drafted Gaudette was a Hobey Baker award winner so there is a lot of promise there. Even Hockey analysts like Pierre Maguire said Canucks fans should be excited to have him.   

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4 hours ago, iinatcc said:

Yeah well either way I think this doesn't look good on Benning either way. Either because it means Gaudette was a blue chip prospect that the Canucks failed to develop properly or that Gaudette was never going to be an NHL regardless how he was developed. Either way this is a miss on Gaudette's drafting and developing. 

And the recent misses on Juolevi, Lind, and Gadjovich isn't very encouraging either.


And yes the counter argument here is that "well all GM's and Teams miss out on the draft and their prospects", the difference here other teams can find ways to make up for their drafting misses. Plus with Benning giving up the last 2 1st round picks there was more pressure for one or two of these players to pan out for the team.  

It was not as if Bening gave away two first round picks for free? He got good value for them, to come in and help the team make a push over the next few years... better than hoping for a 1st round pick to come through in 2-3 years time.

 

Regarding Gaudette... he was a good 5th round pick. So far he has given us Highmore, and that's a borderline NHL player. Books can be written about younger players not living up to expectations. Don't feel the need to dump on management for that. I also still believe the trade wasn't just based on hockey decisions....

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5 hours ago, iinatcc said:

No matter where he was drafted Gaudette was a Hobey Baker award winner so there is a lot of promise there. Even Hockey analysts like Pierre Maguire said Canucks fans should be excited to have him.   


I was hopeful and excited too but there are far more Hobey Baker winners that never panned out than became stars or even regulars. Take Pierre’s enthusiasm for a player with a grain of salt.


Pierre Maguire - “He’s a Hobey Baker Award winner. This is a player that is NHL ready right now, he’s ready to step in today. This is an extreme,extreme talent.”

….on Jimmy Vesey (drafted round 3, 66th overall)


Lots of hits and misses by PM. Some of his other notable misses: Tyler Biggs (“instant game-changer”), Nail Yakupov (“true can’t miss player”), Angelo Esposito (“I can’t believe the Habs passed on him for Ryan McDonagh”) , Zack Phillips (“not much not to like, fans are going to fall in love with this guy”)

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5 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

He didn’t have trade value mostly due to the Canucks seriously destroying it by trying to turn him into something he isn’t. If they knew he wasn’t going to be the player to fill the hole in the roster they needed to use him to fill, pretty sure they would have gotten a lot more for him the previous offseason after he showed some offense at the NHL level.

 

Highmore is significantly overrated on cdc. He can skate fast and not much else.

If you cannot play D in this league, you had better be scoring a lot. Sadly, he does not score near enough. I think they were hoping that he would take the next step during the summer. Kinda like they did with Jake. 

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8 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

He didn’t have trade value mostly due to the Canucks seriously destroying it by trying to turn him into something he isn’t.

No. 
He had no value because he isn’t a good NHLer

 

8 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

 

 

If they knew he wasn’t going to be the player to fill the hole in the roster they needed to use him to fill, pretty sure they would have gotten a lot more for him the previous offseason after he showed some offense at the NHL level.

He didn’t have value then either.  

8 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

 

Highmore is significantly overrated on cdc. He can skate fast and not much else.

Agreed.  Highmore sucks as well. 
 


Im surprised a thread about two meh players has been so popular 

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