Popular Post mordekai Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 Benning is unlikely to re-sign gaudette him next year. So if we lose gaudette for nothing people cry. And if we do re-sign gaudette for jake's salary 2mil fans will say we overpay for a 3rd liner. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 5 hours ago, kilgore said: Jim has a history of losing value. Sure Gaudette was a5th rounder, but he was found value. It could balance out somewhat with the ones like Jake who’s value never reached what was expected. But no chance of seeing that balanced out now. Nor Madden and a second gone for nothing. in another department JB losses value by inking declining vets to generous contracts to the point they even become useless as trade bait for younger replacements. Stagnant value. Then he also loses value by the domino effect of losing actual useful good team pieces because of those overvalued contracts. It’s not so much dealing Gaudette away. He was a tweener and was alright and I thought somewhat snake-bitten this season, but what disturbed me more was his playoff performance or lack thereof. He was invisible and looked small out there. So maybe he did need a change in scenery. all that doesn’t change the fact that JB has a pattern of losing value in the team. And the options to be more creative that go along with that position From the get go. Lost Hamhius for nothing. Then Vrbata. Yeah I know “the other GMs are being mean.... the only offer was a joke so I refused”. But was that it or was it just Jim’s inexperience dealing with other seasoned more clever GMs to find a way? i don’t know. I gave JB a lot rope in his first 5 years or so, but he has slowly and cumulatively eroded my faith when in almost every occasion, less value comes back for what was invested. That’s no way to run a hockey franchise Hamhuis was declining significantly and if I recall refused a trade before his contract was up. I don't blame the GM for that one. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, mll said: Doesn’t really save the owner real cash if they turn around and spend that newly created cap space. Just mentioning it in case there are no buyouts. Well to be fair Eriksson is not going to be on the roster next season anyway. He has effectively already been replaced by other players, so their salary is already accounted for. So it just a question of whether you pay him $4m in real cash next year to sit in the minors, or whether you pay him $3m over two years in a buy out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Does anyone have a link to Bieksa's comments regarding the AG trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksownyou Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Bitter Melon said: Yeah but thats not my point, its that deliberately provoking the fanbase is not a smart idea. Yes he answers directly to ownership, but that doesn't mean ownership is immune to the whims of the fanbase if they think it will affect their bottom line. Seriously? How have they provoked the fans? You think this trade was done to provoke the fans? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMorrison 7 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I think there is more that goes into a trade like this then people realize. AG didn’t meet expectations this year; we have this new guy on D now. Seemed liked a preety even trade to me because I don’t think AG was gonna pan out and it’s nice to fill a spot on defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, BigTramFan said: I think one of the key drivers of this trade was to move Gaudette somewhere where he might be able to succeed, for his own sake. He clearly wasn't working out in VAN. There are other young players that were going to come in a overtake him. For this reason I am pretty sure Benning has been trying to trade Gaudette for quite some time and really wanted to get it done this season while he is signed and not have to go through another contract cycle. Agreed the return is not great, but Highmore is likely the best offer JB got for Gaud. I am glad he pulled the trigger for Gaud's sake! Great post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, aGENT said: Having a guy like say...I don't know... Highmore instead, still saves Frank $275k. An Eriksson buyout creates 2M in cap space and saves them 1M. If they spend the 2M it won’t save the owner real money. It’s a better allocation of cap space but does not really help save real cash. Highmore takes only 725K of the 2M but they will likely also want to use up the remaining 1.275M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, coryberg said: And if we could clone him id take 3 Like when Benning said the team could use 2 or 3 more Tanner Pearsons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 As much as I hate this trade, I can see why JB did it - Gaudette was at a crossroads in his career. He had a massive season last year and declined from it, if he scored the same amount he'd be resigned for 2-3M comfortably. If he was better defensively or at faceoffs he'd have a spot on our 3rd line and replace Sutter. Sadly he did none of those things and is arguably our most dispensable player. The return wasn't great but was never going to be, and we get a guy who we can expose under a cheap contract. This move isn't as bad as it seems. Plus the Benn for Bowey move is basically all for the ED, we can expose a rubbish Bowey who will hopefully get picked and if not, he's the cheapest 7D you can have really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Angry Goose said: Nooo K Macs not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 hours ago, aGENT said: Having a guy like say...I don't know... Highmore instead, still saves Frank $275k. Aqualinis are bleeding significantly, so the 275k makes a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 We will regret this trade just like we will regret keeping Pearson We dumped the wrong guy Gauds played great last season, had health issues this season and is playing under an incompetent coach on a pathetic bottom 6 he will light it up for the Hawks awful move Benning with a joke of a return 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, canuck2288 said: We will regret this trade just like we will regret keeping Pearson We dumped the wrong guy Gauds played great last season, had health issues this season and is playing under an incompetent coach on a pathetic bottom 6 he will light it up for the Hawks awful move Benning with a joke of a return maybe. But people said the same thing about Forsling. How'd that work out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, canuck2288 said: We will regret this trade just like we will regret keeping Pearson We dumped the wrong guy Gauds played great last season, had health issues this season and is playing under an incompetent coach on a pathetic bottom 6 he will light it up for the Hawks awful move Benning with a joke of a return I feel deflated to at this point I am just going to follow this philosophy ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Angry Goose said: Does anyone have a link to Bieksa's comments regarding the AG trade? what did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knucklehead91 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 22 hours ago, SNuck said: You're implying Gaudette was traded because of his wife? Come on man. My dads cousin, Tony Feltrin was burried in the minors because of his wife. So yea, its entirely possible. He managed to make his way back to the show only to lose his eye and have his career ended 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brbetts542 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 As with all bieksa jokes it had very real undertones of truth. He said something along the lines of “you can’t wear #96 in Vancouver for obvious reasons and then #88? It was time for this guy to go”. I took it with a grain of salt but it is just another piece of the puzzle when trying to figure out this guys character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, brbetts542 said: As with all bieksa jokes it had very real undertones of truth. He said something along the lines of “you can’t wear #96 in Vancouver for obvious reasons and then #88? It was time for this guy to go”. I took it with a grain of salt but it is just another piece of the puzzle when trying to figure out this guys character. Those are actually good points.. his choice in numbers was odd for a guy who hadn’t made much of himself. I’m actually glad he’s gone. He wasn’t showing signs he could be a consistent third line centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Slegr said: Those are actually good points.. his choice in numbers was odd for a guy who hadn’t made much of himself. I’m actually glad he’s gone. He wasn’t showing signs he could be a consistent third line centre. With Benn and Gaud out of the picture, that frees up #8 for the big guy 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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