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2 minutes ago, coryberg said:

In the 3 million ballpark. His offensive game is lacking to be considered in the 4 range

OK yeah so $4m is not actually a HUGE overpayment like you suggested.

 

Given Lowry's 60% dZS, I think getting 1.8 pts/60 mins is excellent. Recent comparables like Laughton (3x5) and Iafallo (4x4) would suggest that 4x4 for Lowry is not overpayment. Laughton plays a similar 3C role but not as well as Lowry. Iafallo is more of a top 6 winger but is sitting at 1.9 pts/60 mins with 46% dZS, so he is right in the same offensive production range with more opportunity to score. Factor in Lowry's size and fighting ability and he is the best choice that I can think of for that 3C role in VAN.

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5 hours ago, theo5789 said:

What excuses? That's what happened. 

 

Like I said, they may have been laughing at the time, but the joke is on them. Adding Hamhuis for their playoff run could've made a difference. They low-balled, didn't get him, and lost in the 2nd round. Then they got him for free in the off-season but never made the playoffs with him. Whoop-di-doo.

 

What do you mean it should've never gotten down to such a low ball offer in the first place? That's out of our control. Dallas was playing two GMs and went with Russell and then tried to get Hamhuis as well for cheaper. Only thing we could control was saying yes or no and we said no. Most pundits have been wrong as well in their assessment of trades (see JT Miller, Tyler Motte, etc), yet people continue to buy into it.

You know if it was his only, or one of only a few, trade/signing misfires, fine.  But adding them all up........now all I see are excuses, and excuse makers, sorry.  Jim has jumped the shark for me. Or Orca?

 

I'll wish him success. I hope Tanner has a second wind. I hope he can sign Petey and Quinn to accommodating contracts. I'm stoked to see how Hoggy and now Podz fits into the team too.  And I'm also a Tram fan and hope we see him next season. I pray JB hasn't managed to burn that bridge too.

 

But I'll cheer the day he's replaced with a more seasoned GM with a glass of the best Islay Scotch and a nice fatty of BC's best.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, stanleysteamersmyl said:

End of your post.

 

That was all done with NO BUY OUTS, but this was also with a slightly optimistic view. Perhaps Beagle is healthy and so we still have him at 4C for $3m. Perhaps Seattle selects Gadjovich, so we still have Virtanen at $2.55m, etc.

Oh yeah thanks for that, thought I was losing it! haha

I also don't want to lose Gadj! I was hoping that Gadj could be protected, but think Pearson has taken his slot.

I am guessing protected forwards will be: EP40, Miller, Horvat, Boeser, Pearson, Lind, Motte

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18 minutes ago, BigTramFan said:

OK yeah so $4m is not actually a HUGE overpayment like you suggested.

 

Given Lowry's 60% dZS, I think getting 1.8 pts/60 mins is excellent. Recent comparables like Laughton (3x5) and Iafallo (4x4) would suggest that 4x4 for Lowry is not overpayment. Laughton plays a similar 3C role but not as well as Lowry. Iafallo is more of a top 6 winger but is sitting at 1.9 pts/60 mins with 46% dZS, so he is right in the same offensive production range with more opportunity to score. Factor in Lowry's size and fighting ability and he is the best choice that I can think of for that 3C role in VAN.

The real question IMO is... Are we better off with Lowry at +/- $4x4... Or Sutter at +/- $2x2..?

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20 minutes ago, aGENT said:

The real question IMO is... Are we better off with Lowry at +/- $4x4... Or Sutter at +/- $2x2..?

I think the answer for me, is Lowry, as I think he can give us hard minutes. Can Sutter do that and stay heathy? History say not.

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2 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

I think the answer for me, is Lowry, as I think he can give us hard minutes. Can Sutter do that and stay heathy? History say not.

I agree, I like Lowry he would take all Bo's hard minutes like a champ. He would be great here if we can afford him. 

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5 hours ago, Provost said:

It was absolutely fake when it was “reported” by some random dude on Twitter and everyone picked up and ran with.  I went and checked and Bo still followed him.  I don’t have any reason to believe things changed in the hours since then unless you have some evidence

Interesting.  I checked IG only, and Bo doesn't follow him anymore.  I didn't check Twitter so maybe he does still follow him there.  So if its just one place, perhaps a non-issue then.

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47 minutes ago, BigTramFan said:

Oh yeah thanks for that, thought I was losing it! haha

I also don't want to lose Gadj! I was hoping that Gadj could be protected, but think Pearson has taken his slot.

I am guessing protected forwards will be: EP40, Miller, Horvat, Boeser, Pearson, Lind, Motte

I'd 100% switch Gadj and Pearson in that list.  Wouldn't be opposed to throwing in a small sweetener to get them to take Jake.

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36 minutes ago, TNucks1 said:

lowry for 3 mill 2-3 years would be decent, but how come WPG wouldnt re-sign him?, they in cap trouble?

I don't think they would be in cap trouble. Yhe one main contract they need to worry about is Pionk and he is going to get PAID. 

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57 minutes ago, BigTramFan said:

OK yeah so $4m is not actually a HUGE overpayment like you suggested.

 

Given Lowry's 60% dZS, I think getting 1.8 pts/60 mins is excellent. Recent comparables like Laughton (3x5) and Iafallo (4x4) would suggest that 4x4 for Lowry is not overpayment. Laughton plays a similar 3C role but not as well as Lowry. Iafallo is more of a top 6 winger but is sitting at 1.9 pts/60 mins with 46% dZS, so he is right in the same offensive production range with more opportunity to score. Factor in Lowry's size and fighting ability and he is the best choice that I can think of for that 3C role in VAN.

I take Lowry at 4x4 7 days a week, no questions asked. No chance that’s an overpayment. 

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20 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

I think the answer for me, is Lowry, as I think he can give us hard minutes. Can Sutter do that and stay heathy? History say not.

Oh Lowry is certainly the better player at this point and I agree, I'd love to free up Horvat more. But we won't be the only one competing for his services and we have no idea if he'd even want to come here. And he'd cost us twice the term and money.

 

I don't think it's cut and dry.

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1 minute ago, aGENT said:

Oh Lowry is certainly the better player at this point and I agree, I'd love to free up Horvat more. But we won't be the only one competing for his services and we have no idea if he'd even want to come here. And he'd cost us twice the term and money.

 

I don't think it's cut and dry.

Oh, who the hell knows? LOL

But if I am picking a guy to take away that pressure off of Horvat, and be a physical force, I want a guy like Lowry

 

Tampa has Point at $6,750,000, Cirelli at 4,800,000 and Gourde at $5,166,666 and that is pre-covid numbers, so I would be in support of a higher paid 3rd line center

as long as he is good. Lowry has always impressed me.

 

So, I would support 4.25 to 4.50 for Lowry X 5 or 6....not sure Winnipeg would go there with Copp on the wing, needing a new contract

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20 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

I'd 100% switch Gadj and Pearson in that list.  Wouldn't be opposed to throwing in a small sweetener to get them to take Jake.

Word on the street is Benning gave Pearson his word that he would be protected.

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1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

Tough to give up on Motte but we also can’t be walking away from a young budding power forward. And we’re gonna need as much cheap scoring as possible.

 

I try to make a deal with Seattle. They may value a 3rd round pick and a lesser prospect over Motte. Who knows?


I do know Motte has likely hit his peak and if Gadjovich hits his potential we would be kicking ourselves for protecting a bottom 6 energy guy over him.

I would be tempted to offer Seattle a 2nd round pick to take holtby. Would help with the cap crunch and save us losing one of Lind,gadjovich or Motte. Not sure if that's enough but it's worth inquiring.

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Trade isn't a big deal. While the Canucks likely didn't acquire a useful player, the one they gave up isn't a significant loss, and is a dime a dozen around the league. I'm not losing sleep over this trade at all. 

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5 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

Oh, who the hell knows? LOL

But if I am picking a guy to take away that pressure off of Horvat, and be a physical force, I want a guy like Lowry

 

Tampa has Point at $6,750,000, Cirelli at 4,800,000 and Gourde at $5,166,666 and that is pre-covid numbers, so I would be in support of a higher paid 3rd line center

as long as he is good. Lowry has always impressed me.

 

So, I would support 4.25 to 4.50 for Lowry X 5 or 6....not sure Winnipeg would go there with Copp on the wing, needing a new contract

6 years would take him to 34 years old. He will lose a lot of foot speed by the last few years. I'd rather spend that money elsewhere.

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1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

Tough to give up on Motte but we also can’t be walking away from a young budding power forward. And we’re gonna need as much cheap scoring as possible.

 

I try to make a deal with Seattle. They may value a 3rd round pick and a lesser prospect over Motte. Who knows?


I do know Motte has likely hit his peak and if Gadjovich hits his potential we would be kicking ourselves for protecting a bottom 6 energy guy over him.

Who is this budding power forward you speak of ?

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4 minutes ago, coryberg said:

I would be tempted to offer Seattle a 2nd round pick to take holtby. Would help with the cap crunch and save us losing one of Lind,gadjovich or Motte. Not sure if that's enough but it's worth inquiring.

I doubt that a 2nd gets it done though.

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