Jump to content
The Official Site of the Vancouver Canucks
Canucks Community

[Trade] Canucks trade Adam Gaudette to Blackhawks for Matthew Highmore


Recommended Posts

On 4/13/2021 at 11:23 AM, kilgore said:

A "declining significantly" player that just retired from the NHL in 2020? :mellow:

 

And no, Hamhuis did not "refuse a trade"

 

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/stars-sold-on-russell-as-hamhuis-doesnt-go-to-suitable-destination-at-trade-deadline

 

According to Hamhuis, he agreed on Wednesday to consider the Blackhawks and a day later to consider the Stars. And he stressed after the deadline passed Monday that he would have gone to either club if a deal was done.

“I kind of expected something might happen with those teams because they reached out — it wasn’t that I suggested those teams,” said Hamhuis, who ruled out going to the Eastern Conference. “I thought something may get done, maybe more in those two or three days that we let them know.

 

“But with the deadline coming today, you never know what can happen. The no-movement clause was something we earned and I didn’t want to handcuff the Canucks and be open to a few teams. My hope is I can be of value to this team and help develop young players. I feel like I’ve put my heart and soul into this organization.

 

Did he make it more difficult by only agreeing to two teams?  Sure. But a better, more experienced GM at the time, would have found a way to get something.  Dallas had the last laugh as they quickly signed him as soon as he was available that Summer.

 

"We tried hard" to move Hamhuis and Vrbata just wasn't a great excuse.

,

,

Lip service.  Saying that he didn't want to move but then left the club for more money later wasn't going to help his image neither.

 

Have a look at his stats (points, +/-, games) and tell me that he wasn't declining.  We were stoked to get him but in his last years with the Canucks the media were pretty consistent in saying that he was a declining player.  Not a big deal given his length of career.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

More and more, I believe that Gaudette was moved now due to not following Covid protocol and introduced it to the team.

 

I think they were losing faith in him, and would have likely waited till summer to do the trade, but I think there may have been some animosity between Gaudette and the other players about putting them and families at risk.

  • Cheers 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, NHL97OneTimer said:

Lip service.  Saying that he didn't want to move but then left the club for more money later wasn't going to help his image neither.

 

Have a look at his stats (points, +/-, games) and tell me that he wasn't declining.  We were stoked to get him but in his last years with the Canucks the media were pretty consistent in saying that he was a declining player.  Not a big deal given his length of career.

I don't really want to rehash this more.

But it was the exaggeration of describing Hamhuis as SIGNIFICANTLY declining.  I agree he was declining. But still obviously useful for a few more seasons for another team. ie...tradable.

 

Whether Jim could have tried to move him sooner, months before the deadline, and just "ran out of time" again, or just was not creative enough, or salesman enough, to get something for him.  That's his job. Can't believe how many here just accept his excuses. Goes all the way to Markstrom and Tanev. A proactive GM would have bit the bullet on Markstrom, anticipating what he would be asking, and even Tanev and tried to move them before the trade deadline.  Acquiring more picks and younger D prospects. 

 

I think we could have gotten quite the haul from those two that didn't return anyways. And had the space to re-sign Tafolli and Stecher too. Sure it would have pissed off some of the team at the time, but its not his job to be friends with the team. He could learn from Wally Buono. (Hey is he free?) But to look ahead and plan for everything to be in place cap wise, and roster wise, when an emerging core is in their prime. 

I don't have confidence that his "just living day to day" reactive approach to GMing will facilitate that happening.

.

.

.

Edited by kilgore
  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Watch them put him on Pat Kane's line and he'll have a 60 point season next year. Doesn't matter if he can't defend, he brings the energy and enthusiasm that Kane does, if he gets a chance he'll thrive there.

Chicago has been very good at putting young players in roles that maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. I would not be surprised to see Gaudette take a big step forward under their methodology for developing players. At the very least even if he doesn't work out I would expect them to be able to trade him at a higher value.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, kilgore said:

I don't really want to rehash this more.

But it was the exaggeration of describing Hamhuis as SIGNIFICANTLY declining.  I agree he was declining. But still obviously useful for a few more seasons for another team. ie...tradable.

 

Whether Jim could have tried to move him sooner, months before the deadline, and just "ran out of time" again, or just was not creative enough, or salesman enough, to get something for him.  That's his job. Can't believe how many here just accept his excuses. Goes all the way to Markstrom and Tanev. A proactive GM would have bit the bullet on Markstrom, anticipating what he would be asking, and even Tanev and tried to move them before the trade deadline.  Acquiring more picks and younger D prospects. 

 

I think we could have gotten quite the haul from those two that didn't return anyways. And had the space to re-sign Tafolli and Stecher too. Sure it would have pissed off some of the team at the time, but its not his job to be friends with the team. He could learn from Wally Buono. (Hey is he free?) But to look ahead and plan for everything to be in place cap wise, and roster wise, when an emerging core is in their prime. 

I don't have confidence that his "just living day to day" reactive approach to GMing will facilitate that happening.

.

.

.

They should have already made their decision on Markstrom and Tanev by the deadline. I don't think it was unrealistic to expect both would be signed to crazy ufa contracts.

 

The frustrating thing about Benning - and he doesn't even deny it - is he is always just focused on the current moment and scraping into the playoffs even when there is little hope. 

 

Both of those players would probably have gotten some great returns at the deadline. He should have pulled the trigger.

 

I have very little confidence that the team will be any more than a cap maxed bubble or non playoff team under Benning. He just flip flops too much on what actual plan he is following. There is no sense of any cohesive long term strategy other than keep hoping drafted players overachieve.

Edited by wallstreetamigo
  • Cheers 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/13/2021 at 8:05 AM, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

We got more for Benn than AG...which makes no sense....we even got more for trading our 4th for a 5th rounder...Bowie at 25 years old may be just a late bloomer like many D. men are...seemingly worth way more than a minor upgrade at the draft.

 

AG is likely to enjoy scoring some highlight reel goals against us ...and every one is going to be a reminder or how mistaken Benning was ...!

AG was patient zero. Either thru his own fault or thru his wife the whole team got ravaged with a very serious disease. Putting players and their families lives at risk. 

 

Im surprised JB got anything. He just wanted to get this guy out of town ASAP.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Gaudette is on the same career trajectory as Jordan Schroeder (i.e., lots of promise coming out of college, decent first steps).  Covid or no covid, Gaudette was fast becoming a redundant player on the Canucks roster and falling on the depth chart.  It was time to move him.  Gonna bet that the offers coming back for Gaudette was scant. 

 

Also gonna go out on a limb and say that his 33 points from last season was an anomaly and that that is the best production that is going to come from him in his career. 

 

Just an opinion based on his performance in the playoffs and sampling of games that he played in this season. 

Edited by bigbadcanucks
  • Cheers 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, bigbadcanucks said:

Gaudette is on the same career trajectory as Jordan Schroeder (i.e., lots of promise coming out of college, decent first steps).  Covid or no covid, Gaudette was fast becoming a redundant player on the Canucks roster and falling on the depth chart.  It was time to move him.  Gonna bet that the offers coming back for Gaudette was scant. 

 

Also gonna go out on a limb and say that his 33 points from last season was an anomaly and that that is the best production that is going to come from him in his career. 

 

Just an opinion based on his performance in the playoffs and sampling of games that he played in this season. 

Gaudette has more points in 2 and a bit years than Schroeder had his entire career. Schroeders career high was 13 points and he never made it to regular nhl duty and was a bit part at best almost his entire career.

 

I see almost no comparison in their trajectories.

 

EDIT: Schroeder was pretty much garbage right from the start. He showed little in his first steps. Actually showed little in his first, middle, and last steps in the nhl.

Edited by wallstreetamigo
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, bigbadcanucks said:

Gaudette is on the same career trajectory as Jordan Schroeder (i.e., lots of promise coming out of college, decent first steps).  Covid or no covid, Gaudette was fast becoming a redundant player on the Canucks roster and falling on the depth chart.  It was time to move him.  Gonna bet that the offers coming back for Gaudette was scant. 

 

Also gonna go out on a limb and say that his 33 points from last season was an anomaly and that that is the best production that is going to come from him in his career. 

 

Just an opinion based on his performance in the playoffs and sampling of games that he played in this season. 

Wat. So they're comparable because they both came from the NCAA? Jordan Schroeder never had "decent first steps". Not even going to ask why Gaudette was becoming a "redundant" player, he was probably the most unlucky of our forwards during the beginning of this season. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

Gaudette has more points in 2 and a bit years than Schroeder had his entire career. Schroeders career high was 13 points and he never made it to regular nhl duty and was a bit part at best almost his entire career.

Jordan Schroeder ...

 

 

 

thumb_122800531_220923586062075_1179130064700001545_n-3162054599.jpg

 

Remember when many here were expecting him to replace Ryan Kesler as a future 2nd line center? 

Edited by iinatcc
  • Haha 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/12/2021 at 10:06 AM, higgyfan said:

Hard to get a read on the new guy as  there's very little in scouting reports.  The only thing I found was an old one...

 

https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/player/matthew-highmore-21247

 

Young centreman who is slightly behind his draft class due to having an injury last year that impeded his developmental time. Displays a nice skill set and good jump. Has creativity good reads and soft quick hands. Good aggressive forechecker. Long term prospect who needs work on his work in his own zone.
—Bill Placzek—

 

I like the Motte comparable; although Motte was strutting his stuff by the time he was 23.  Bit of a head scratcher this one.

 

Wouldn't suprise me if Gauds (and his wife) asked for a trade, considering how awful the Canuck fans responded towards him on the internet. Perhaps the trade lands at the fans doorstep, not JB's. 

I'm not sure I'd go that far as to say it lands on the fans. Fans anywhere and everywhere can be quite cruel to their own players and team. But as a professional hockey player, Gaudette I am sure knew that coming in. He's got to have thicker skin than that to deal with the fanbase. If he doesn't have thick skin, he's not going to last very long, no matter where he plays. It's part and parcel of being a professional hockey player. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, wallstreetamigo said:

Some of us remember thinking that was crazy at the time lol

You know what. When Schroeder was drafted, I actually liked his highlights package so much, I really did believe he was going to pan out for us and be a top six forward. I guess his skill wasn't quite elite enough. It's too bad for the man, not sure what happened. He just didn't get an opportunity, or he was never that good to begin with. 

 

Shows you how much I know about professional hockey...LOL 

Edited by N4ZZY
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...