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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

Gaud even said during his first interview in Chicago he wasn’t getting to play the kinds of minutes in Van he is now getting in Chicago.  He’s not going to play centre here ahead of Petey, Bo, or Miller.  And he really isn’t a very good winger either.  We need what Highmore can bring in our bottom six way more than what Gaudette can do in a similar role.  Gaud is just too skinny to be an effective player.  He needs to be putting up points, or he hurts the team.  No role for him with us.  Glad he’s gone.  Sounds like a bit of an entitled goofball too.  

Correct he's not gonna play ahead of Petey,Bo, and Miller,

But don't trade him for a 4th liner, last year he was worth a second rounder,

 

 

Bad asset management,

Regardless where he plays in the lineup he's worth more then Highmore

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2 minutes ago, klw604 said:

Whoever has the better career wins the trade

 

Highmore 4th liner

Gaudette can play up and down the lineup.....

 

Canucks sold low on Gaudette, terrible asset management

Highmore will be on our team playing fourth line minutes and PK for 3-5 years.  Gaudette will be gone out of the NHL in a year.  

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Just now, Alflives said:

Highmore will be on our team playing fourth line minutes and PK for 3-5 years.  Gaudette will be gone out of the NHL in a year.  

Highmore is a career 4th liner, I agree he's gonna be here for couple years and it's a good thing.... But does that means he's a better player then Gaudette, he hasn't produced more points then Gaudette in the same amount of games.

 

 

Gaudette is worth more then Highmore, you cannot predict he's gonna be out of the league in two years, that's such a dumb thing to say, put some money on it if your that sure of it

 

 

 

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Just now, klw604 said:

Highmore is a career 4th liner, I agree he's gonna be here for couple years and it's a good thing.... But does that means he's a better player then Gaudette, he hasn't produced more points then Gaudette in the same amount of games.

 

 

Gaudette is worth more then Highmore, you cannot predict he's gonna be out of the league in two years, that's such a dumb thing to say, put some money on it if your that sure of it

 

 

 

Gaud didn’t accept his role on our team.  He had to go.  Yes, a second rounder would be great, but that clearly wasn’t offered.  

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Just now, Alflives said:

Clearly he wasn’t worth a second.  Gaud isn’t that good.  Plus, he’s coming 25.  He's not 22.  He is what he is.  The guy has a disease that keeps him bone rail skinny.  And imo he’s arrogant.  He thinks he’s deserving of top minutes, and playing with top players.  Much prefer a fourth line guy, who understands his role.  Can’t have guys thinking they miscast.  

Age 23

33 points in 59 games

 

 

He had issues with his health, it's not fair to say he has a disease, what type of person are you, an arrogant one...

 

Travis green plays to win, he's coaching to make the playoffs, he doesn't have a contract, he's not gonna use Gaudette on the first two lines, the kid couldn't match up well against other top 6, and he doesn't have enough linemates to help drive play in the bottom 6, our bottom 6 is all defensive minded players

 

He wasn't a fit under Travis green

 

 

Sutter

Beagle

Roussel

Virtanen

Eriksson

Macewan

Motte

Hawryluk

 

Who's your play driver ?

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Gaud didn’t accept his role on our team.  He had to go.  Yes, a second rounder would be great, but that clearly wasn’t offered.  

Bad asset management

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3 minutes ago, klw604 said:

Age 23

33 points in 59 games

 

 

He had issues with his health, it's not fair to say he has a disease, what type of person are you, an arrogant one...

 

Travis green plays to win, he's coaching to make the playoffs, he doesn't have a contract, he's not gonna use Gaudette on the first two lines, the kid couldn't match up well against other top 6, and he doesn't have enough linemates to help drive play in the bottom 6, our bottom 6 is all defensive minded players

 

He wasn't a fit under Travis green

 

 

Sutter

Beagle

Roussel

Virtanen

Eriksson

Macewan

Motte

Hawryluk

 

Who's your play driver ?

 

 

Gaud didn’t want to play with those players and in that role.  He will soon not be in Chicago too.  He isn’t a top dog.  He needs to accept that fact, or he’s done in the league.  

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30 minutes ago, klw604 said:

Whoever has the better career wins the trade

 

Highmore 4th liner

Gaudette can play up and down the lineup.....

 

Canucks sold low on Gaudette, terrible asset management

I'm not so sure if we know all the story behind this trade.  It seems odd how quickly it came about.  Makes be wonder if perhaps Gaud asked for a trade, due to the abuse Canuck fans showered on his wife.  Or maybe there was something about Gaud 'bringing' the virus to the team.  None of us have access to that kind of info.

 

It's not that unusual for a player to start with a bang on a new team and then drop back to his usual form after a while.  The way Sam Bennett is playing in Fla, he would have 40g/104 pts in a full season.:shock:

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20 minutes ago, klw604 said:

Bad asset management

who do you think was going to give us more in return? 

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8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Gaud didn’t want to play with those players and in that role.  He will soon not be in Chicago too.  He isn’t a top dog.  He needs to accept that fact, or he’s done in the league.  

Anyteam that roles 3 offensive forward lines + 1 shutdown line

Will be glad to have Gaudette

 

 

He's getting more minutes with Chicago

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, klw604 said:

Correct he's not gonna play ahead of Petey,Bo, and Miller,

But don't trade him for a 4th liner, last year he was worth a second rounder,

 

 

Bad asset management,

Regardless where he plays in the lineup he's worth more then Highmore

Source?

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10 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said:

...I don’t even know what that means lol

It is a reference to an episode of the old "Happy Days" sitcom.

As interest in the show dropped they came up with the idea of having Fonzie acept a dare to go water skiing and jump over a penned up shark.

 

Saying is now used to identify that something is  past it's best before date.

 

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5 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

I don't think people whose opinions are on either side of this (or any debate really) should be told they are bonkers, or stupid, or an idiot.

Has anyone ever called you any of those things on these boards?

Seriously - just quote one post where any poster refers to you as "bonker, stupid or an idiot."

 

You remind me of Claude Julien in the embellishment city video that makaveli posted. 

 

Do you need to be called names?   Need more attention?   Would that make you feel better if it actually happened - would that make you somehow feel validated? 

 

Btw - here's how you quote a post...

 

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 you &^@#ing clown.

Hmm.  "you &^@#ing clown."    The ironing is delicious.

 

You cry wolf repeatedly but you're not able to refrain from name calling.

 

Nor are you able to quote anyone calling you what you claim - at least certainly not me - I've called you out on this before and crickets from you. 

 

You like to paraphrase liberally, manipulatively, conveniently embellishing what wasn't actually said  - I suppose you think that enables/justifies your own behaviour/name calling.

 

What you've been called - is out.  Called out - on not knowing what a "cap dump" is - continuing to refere to JT Miller as a "cap dump."   Even when it's not you being called out on this point - ie Sekeres in the GDT - you step in and respond - triggered - as if grounds for you to get/feel offended.  Seriously - give it a rest.

 

These are grown up discussion boards - where people will disagree with you - and call you out on things like this.  Evidently your ego is fragile/unable to take it - perhaps not the place for you in that case - no one else's responsibility to kid gloves you because you posture sensitivity - while ironically, name calling yourself.

 

Further irony - you have a one-note, critical default take regarding this team - as once again evidenced by your inability to even assess JT Miller realistically/accurately - but you get triggered when your critical disposition is answered in kind - you call out management in virtually every post you make - but you can't take being called out yourself - can't maintain decorum - and yet here you are continuing to protest as if you've been done wrong on these boards.

 

Seriously - tedious - and something you've done repeatedly - for years - here. 

 

Which is why I've made it clear - repeatedly - that I have and have had little interest in engaging with you - and yet you continued to respond to /engage repeatedly with my posts....and ironically, again, here you are - laughably - protesting as if I'm

not worth responding to....

 

On 5/7/2021 at 3:28 PM, wallstreetamigo said:

 to not be worth reading or responding to for the most part.

Put your money where your mouth is and go your own way, finally.

 

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1 hour ago, oldnews said:

 

Has anyone ever called you any of those things on these boards?

Seriously - just quote one post where any poster refers to you as "bonker, stupid or an idiot."

 

You remind me of Claude Julien in the embellishment city video that makaveli posted. 

 

Do you need to be called names?   Need more attention?   Would that make you feel better if it actually happened - would that make you somehow feel validated? 

 

Btw - here's how you quote a post...

 

Hmm.  "you &^@#ing clown."    The ironing is delicious.

 

You cry wolf repeatedly but you're not able to refrain from name calling.

 

Nor are you able to quote anyone calling you what you claim - at least certainly not me - I've called you out on this before and crickets from you. 

 

You like to paraphrase liberally, manipulatively, conveniently embellishing what wasn't actually said  - I suppose you think that enables/justifies your own behaviour/name calling.

 

What you've been called - is out.  Called out - on not knowing what a "cap dump" is - continuing to refere to JT Miller as a "cap dump."   Even when it's not you being called out on this point - ie Sekeres in the GDT - you step in and respond - triggered - as if grounds for you to get/feel offended.  Seriously - give it a rest.

 

These are grown up discussion boards - where people will disagree with you - and call you out on things like this.  Evidently your ego is fragile/unable to take it - perhaps not the place for you in that case - no one else's responsibility to kid gloves you because you posture sensitivity - while ironically, name calling yourself.

 

Further irony - you have a one-note, critical default take regarding this team - as once again evidenced by your inability to even assess JT Miller realistically/accurately - but you get triggered when your critical disposition is answered in kind - you call out management in virtually every post you make - but you can't take being called out yourself - can't maintain decorum - and yet here you are continuing to protest as if you've been done wrong on these boards.

 

Seriously - tedious - and something you've done repeatedly - for years - here. 

 

Which is why I've made it clear - repeatedly - that I have and have had little interest in engaging with you - and yet you continued to respond to /engage repeatedly with my posts....and ironically, again, here you are - laughably - protesting as if I'm

not worth responding to....

 

Put your money where your mouth is and go your own way, finally.

 

I have you on ignore bud. Only poster on this site actually. I chose to see this response as I figured it would be directed at me since you can't help yourself.

 

FYI, telling someone they can't comprehend simple concepts - as you do to me frequently - is the same thing as calling them stupid. It doesnt bother me at all though as really it just says more about you than it does me.

 

In your quest to always be right, you have zero ability to consider other people's opinions without trashing them. So I spoke your language and trashed you back now you are enraged and obsessed by it. Boo hoo.

 

For someone who doesnt want me responding to you, you sure do post a lot of responses to me though.

 

This will be the last response you ever get from me so you dont have to worry. I have no time for you.

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29 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said:

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I see you're - predictably -  unable to quote anyone calling you what you claim

 

-undoubtedly just more prattle -  so I can't be bothered to read your post / yet more tail chasing.

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On 5/8/2021 at 3:12 AM, Attila Umbrus said:

Sorry to offend you lol.

 

It's my take, deal with it. I don't care what your thoughts are if you come at me like that.

 

Learn more about the NHL lol. Hilarious. I've travelled all over BC and Alberta watching hockey. Go pound sand. Where do you watch your hockey? Online? 

 

Laughable.

lol whenever you guys cant respond to a valid point you change the subject. Reminds me of my mom. Points addressed to Highmore/Gaudette, bottom 6 - all ignored. Except, let's comment on where and how I watch hockey? 

 

Yeah, learn more about the NHL if you think Highmore/Motte/MacEwen is a good bottom six and fit to win the Stanley Cup (which is what we are after).  

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2 hours ago, Drakrami said:

lol whenever you guys cant respond to a valid point you change the subject. Reminds me of my mom. Points addressed to Highmore/Gaudette, bottom 6 - all ignored. Except, let's comment on where and how I watch hockey? 

 

Yeah, learn more about the NHL if you think Highmore/Motte/MacEwen is a good bottom six and fit to win the Stanley Cup (which is what we are after).  

Yeah, and neither is Gaudette. On a contender, he'd be nowhere near the top six, and we've seen he isn't good enough in the bottom six.

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10 hours ago, klw604 said:

Correct he's not gonna play ahead of Petey,Bo, and Miller,

But don't trade him for a 4th liner, last year he was worth a second rounder,

 

 

Bad asset management,

Regardless where he plays in the lineup he's worth more then Highmore

As has already been asked here (but it bears repeating), who suggested that Gaudette was worth a 2nd? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't recall anyone mentioning a "credible" source for Gaudette's value being that high.

 

Another thing that comes to mind as I've been scrolling through this thread, is how it jogs the memory of another (former) Canucks pick/prospect from many years ago. There was such a whoop and a holler about how "Cody" (we were all on a first name basis with Cody...) was being failed by the team and "not being given a chance to succeed". When he was traded to Buffalo, screams of bad asset management could be heard. Initially, when Hodgson did well, fingers were pointed and people here were saying that his numbers (while playing with Vanek and Pominville), proved that he was a better player than the Canucks were saying.

 

After a year and a half, Hodgson found himself without his wingers, and his numbers dropped, and then it was Buffalo's turn to be the team which failed Hodgson and not put him in a position to succeed.

 

So, are Gaudette's current results (1g/3a/4pts/-1) an example of a player making the most of his opportunities with his new team, or is he just playing with a bit more drive and that energy will wear down as the games go by, is he just on a hot streak, or is it that he is just being carried by his new line mates? I don't see him being given a huge amount of ice time in Chicago compared to here (for the most part kind of similar to here - 11ish minutes). And when some of the guys on the injury list come back (later this year of next), who sees Gaudette playing ahead of some of them. My suspicion is that Gaudette will once again find himself somewhere in the bottom-6.

 

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2 hours ago, filthycanuck said:

He didn't say he deserved top minutes. Gaudette just was never given an oppurtunity to play up the lineup and I could understand that. Why is it that when someone is injured in the top 6, Jake the rapist is automatically slotted in. Thats my beef with it. Jake has played stretches of games in the top 6 and yet Gaudette has what? Probably a handful of shifts in the top 6 his entire Canuck career. Jimmy Vesey, first game as a Canuck, top line. Josh Leivo, first game he was in the top line. It seems that he's just been pegged as a bottom 6 guy and Green never had an inkling of thought of even trying to play him up the lineup regardless of performance (last season). Jake as awful this year and hes gotten full streak of games in the top 6

You're not given opportunities in the NHL, that's not how it works. You take them. 

 

I know people keep mentioning his 33 point season but 12 points where on PP2 and the remaining 21 in a very sheltered 3rd line role while being a defensive liability is not that impressive. 

 

Guess we'll see if he sticks with the hawks top 6 or not over time.

 

 

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