Jim Benning Media Availability

[Coconuts]

8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

It's much more exciting as a fan to receive a new gift each year, a Top 10 draft pick to add to the prospects, but I think the Canucks may be at a stage where they're going to have to start paying Pettersson and Hughes big money, so shedding salary is a priority. The top prospects are in the system and now it's building around those guys?  Ah heck, who knows what their plan is? lol

 

My bad, I forgot his contract expires after this season

I get where you're coming from, and our salary scenario is def worth considering and watching. But on the flip side, one could argue that because we're going to be paying Pettersson and Hughes, and a minimum of Boeser and Horvat sooner than later as well, that it's imperative we have talented youth coming through the pipeline to play on ELC's. 

 

We're not contenders yet, we've got some promising prospects but we absolutely need more blue chippers in the system.  

[Dazzle]

8 minutes ago, BPA said:

If JB was really selling, he could have traded Virtanen and Sutter (50% retained) for a lower return. 

Maybe the Canucks don't want to sell low on Virtanen. Gaudette's situation seems to be more of a behind the scenes thing, even though they insist it being a business.

[Fanuck]

8 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

Maybe the Canucks don't want to sell low on Virtanen. Gaudette's situation seems to be more of a behind the scenes thing, even though they insist it being a business.

Good question - I suspect the truth will come out eventually either way in due time.  Was it just a hockey trade plain and simple, or was it a message to the team that you don't violate team/league directives and break protocol no matter what? 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

MEDIA | Jim Benning Following 2021 Trade Deadline

 

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30 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

Maybe the Canucks don't want to sell low on Virtanen. Gaudette's situation seems to be more of a behind the scenes thing, even though they insist it being a business.

We're at the 'making things up' stage of defending bad trades. 

[Ghostsof1915]

I'm ok with trading AG. I'm just not very happy with the return. I'm hoping to be proven wrong. 

Couldn't we find a young 2 way centre, with a bit of upside in return. Even we had to throw in Virtanen to do it? 

Guess we will see what happens. 

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

55 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

You know it's funny. People here are screaming at Benning for not realizing that Pettersson and Hughes' contracts are due, even though he's the same GM who drafted them and oversaw their successes. LOL.

Does this move show that Benning is making space? Yes. Do the fans bitch about it? Yes. Gaudette really wasn't going to amount to anything more on the Canucks. That much was perfectly clear.

Thats a good point. However, I still don't know why GMJB would commit to Pearson with the money and term he gave him if "making room" was his main concern.

We have other players in the system that can fill up those winger spots and contribute. He is by no means irreplaceable.

 

But you can make the same argument for Gaudette.

 

Letting Gaudette go is just bittersweet since I felt like he didn't really get that opportunity live up to his full potential when there are times he's shown flashes of being a better player. He was given a short leash on this team. 

[Drakrami]

1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said:

They're discussing Highmore/Gaudette and how Gaud sees himself as a top 6 and there wouldn't be a fit for him here in relation to that.  That he wasn't a guy they relied on in the playoffs and he didn't take that extra step they'd expected.

 

That Highmore is touted as:  a guy who'll do whatever's asked of him.  High motor, better skater (Gaud with more talent).  Will go to the net every time.  Comparing him to a Motte kind of player?

Gaudette is definitely not a top 6. What he thinks he is hardly matters. But during his 153 games here I think we have only given him ice time above 15 minutes only on a few occasions. This is no matter how well he played. That's a problem. There is no work hard, get reward ladder for him. Hoglander on the other hand magically slots into the 2nd line and gets 17 minutes of game time his second game playing for us. Same for Vessey whos done nothing for us and pretty much an unproven NHL player. 

[apollo]

Jim Benning 

 

 

 

I wonder who the player was that didn't Wana waive ntc? Regardless I respect any players right to exercise their ntc, especially given covid timing... 

 

He acknowledged the fact that Gauds change of scenery could revamp his career... Hopefully he doesn't become too too good lol 

 

But overall seems confident in Highmore... After seeing some highlights I am too! 

 

Given current circumstances I think Jim's done well. Long live the king! 

 

[JM_]

22 minutes ago, SNuck said:

We're at the 'making things up' stage of defending bad trades. 

I'm at the "hope" stage on this one. If we get another Motte, then it's fine. If its just a tweener bust.... 

Edited April 12, 2021 by Jimmy McGill

[Drakrami]

1 hour ago, Dazzle said:

You know it's funny. People here are screaming at Benning for not realizing that Pettersson and Hughes' contracts are due, even though he's the same GM who drafted them and oversaw their successes. LOL.

Does this move show that Benning is making space? Yes. Do the fans bitch about it? Yes. Gaudette really wasn't going to amount to anything more on the Canucks. That much was perfectly clear.

Sorry, that's ridcious. Gaudette costs 950K, the minimum we need to fill 1 roster spot. What I think you are trying to say is just lol.... meh. 

[spur1]

26 minutes ago, SNuck said:

We're at the 'making things up' stage of defending bad trades. 

What bad trade?

[JM_]

The Bowey deal makes sense, its a very cheap expansion solution. I doubt he ever cracks the lineup but if he makes it into the top 8 thats a bonus.

 

Benn for a 6th, thats about right for this year.

 

Losing AG is a bit of a stinger tho. That ones going to be debated for a few years I think, unless Highmore comes in and we have two Motte level players. I'm not buying into the hate fest that he got moved because of covid, thats just goofy. 

[Dazzle]

5 minutes ago, Drakrami said:

Sorry, that's ridcious. Gaudette costs 950K, the minimum we need to fill 1 roster spot. What I think you are trying to say is just lol.... meh. 

An RFA, and the Canucks clearly had no intention of extending.

[komodo0921]

Adam Gaudette and a 4th rnd pick to Cicago for Matthew Highmore, Madison Bowey, and a 5th rnd pick

Not sure this deal works in our favor. While, up until this season, Gauds was trending upwards, neither Highmore nor Bowey were doing anything to suggest they were about to break out. Analysts on Sportsnet, however, seem very intrigued with Highmore coming to Vancouver so maybe there may be something significant to this move. As I'm simply going off stats and can't claim to even know who Highmore is, they seem to have more insight then I do so I reserve any real opinion on this player until I see what he brings.

Bowey, on the other hand, is a player who I was really high on when he was drafted. Unfortunately, to this point in his career, he has not lived up to the hype but I definitely hope he finds his game here. Although I am far from a pro manager, scout, or coach, it would seem logical for him to get back to what got him drafted. Getting back to a speedy, hard-nosed defender with a good first pass would be of great benefit to him. Keep it simple and play to his strengths and work on being a responsible defender. We could definitely use him on the right side if he can come around.

Jordie Benn to Winnipeg for a 6th rnd pick

No brainer here. There was no plan to re-sign him. Getting a pick is a win.

The Gaudette deal definitely has the potential to blow up in JB's face. Although I've said in other threads that, imo, the fit for Gauds here feels wrong, I definitely feel JB sold low and re-signing him one more time to give him a full season to return to the upward trending player he was last year may have been the more prudent move so I hope for his sake Highmore and Bowey turn into what we need, namely a #2 LW and a top 4 RD. If not, we may be chalking up another mistake by JB.

[Dazzle]

Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

The Bowey deal makes sense, its a very cheap expansion solution. I doubt he ever cracks the lineup but if he makes it into the top 8 thats a bonus.

 

Benn for a 6th, thats about right for this year.

 

Losing AG is a bit of a stinger tho. That ones going to be debated for a few years I think, unless Highmore comes in and we have two Motte level players. I'm not buying into the hate fest that he got moved because of covid, thats just goofy. 

1) Farhan Lalji reports that Gaudette was the first case and that the covid situation was 'traced back to him".

2) He also said that this was a business deal (team didn't see him as an option at center anymore, etc etc)

3) Gaudette's wife, which you and I talked about earlier.

[JM_]

1 minute ago, Dazzle said:

1) Farhan Lalji reports that Gaudette was the first case and that the covid situation was 'traced back to him".

2) He also said that this was a business deal (team didn't see him as an option at center anymore, etc etc)

3) Gaudette's wife, which you and I talked about earlier.

oh I have no doubt that he was the 1st case, I just don't buy into the punishment-trade angle. I think Jim gave up on him for a player in Highmore he's liked as he said for a while. I also think this is a move for cap certainty on the bottom 6. 

 

 

[smithers joe]

i see us not protecting the following for the ED.

roussel, beagle,virtanen, highmore, eriksson....bowey and holtby.

trade virt before draft and let seattle pick away.

benji and his management group are always thinking.

he said they would be studying other teams lists to see if they can pick up some good deals before the ED.

canucks are good on both wings, but short one center, defense needs work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Devron]

2 hours ago, Dirtman said:

The AG trade doesn't sit well with me, but what do I know. I liked the guy a lot, I wanted to see him with us for one more year.

 

This thread should be fun.

I like AG a lot too but maybe at the end of the day he’s not the right piece of the puzzle we tried to force into a place that doesn’t fit 

[Nucker 67]

I'm okay with Gaudette and Benn leaving. We don't know Gaudette's situation. I'm looking forward to seeing Highmore and Bowey play. Apparently Highmore has a motor and goes all in every shift, reminds me of a Mr. Motte. Hopefully he can turn into a player like that. Remember when Motte was sent to VAN, I had no idea who he was, but he's been great. Maybe Highmore will provide more energy in the bottom 6. Much needed.

 

Benn gone means Juolevi can finally play. Also, a couple of extra draft picks.  Would've been nice to trade more players, but all in all, I'm pleased with what Benning did today.