NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, BCNeil said: https://globalnews.ca/news/7758094/new-calgary-arena-paused-budget-estimate-program-requirements/ "In 2019, the City of Calgary and CSEC agreed to split the $550 million cost to build the arena on lands to the north of the existing site of the Scotiabank Saddledome" In the province where they felt the need for an even further to the right of center party, you have them agree to provide corporate welfare (split the costs) for a team who's net worth is just under half a billion dollars (source: https://www.forbes.com/teams/calgary-flames/?sh=5f94d4321905). Meanwhile the Canucks play in an arena completely funded privately. In a city full of left wing hippies. Edited April 15, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I will not rest till I hear George Canyon's take on this. Lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Dirtman said: My god man, who hurt you? I noticed it a few months ago. Theres a clear pattern to his posts. They are all like that. If a Heffy post doesnt involve someone (he feels should be), dying horribly, humiliated and living outside of society, or just tarred and feathered i have to double take to make sure its him. I cant help but picture an old disney character who is always frowning, steam whistling out of his very red head, fist raised with conviction. And futility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: [quote]Have you been to Calgary its like there's a mandate for every man over 40 to be wearing jeans a size too tight. Its just wrong. [/quote With a big buckle, and a roach clip hangin off their Stetson, yippee! Its funny too because the ones dress like cowboys are the ones with limp wrists and pot bellies who look like they've never done a physical job in their life. I'm not trying to crap on Calgary as I do actually think its a nice city but the way they force the cowboy schtick like they're Dallas's estranged cousin is honestly kind of sad. 17 hours ago, butters said: I don't think there are differences between any team's fan bases. Sure there are toxic fans, but they are on every team. And if you spend time talking about another team's fans are you really any different than them? Actually, I've found there is a segment of the Canucks fanbase that is self-loathing that I've yet to encounter amongst any other fanbase in any other sport. They're the ones that talk about how Canucks fans are terrible, fairweather, corporate, flakey, bandwagoning, etc, yet simultaneously say we're psychotic rioting lunatics that don't deserve a sports team. Strangely they never include themselves in this despite being part of said fanbase. Obviously this isn't everybody, or even most, but no other fanbase I've encountered craps on themselves as much as Canucks fans. Edited April 15, 2021 by Bitter Melon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 12 hours ago, rekker said: I will not rest till I hear George Canyon's take on this. Lol. the funny part is Canyon is from Nova Scotia. The whole country accent thing is fake. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Lol what cowboy decided to create an Arena shaped like a saddle haha. Funny that a lot of major concerts / artists skip Calgary because the dimensions and shape of the building isn't adequate space for their concert and staging lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 22 hours ago, King Heffy said: Does defending fans of rival who don't deserve any respect make you feel better? I guess I just don't think that sports are anything to get worked over, especially to the extent that you would trash people just for being fans of a team. That's taking it way too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, butters said: I guess I just don't think that sports are anything to get worked over, especially to the extent that you would trash people just for being fans of a team. That's taking it way too seriously. It's not just because they're Flames fans, although supporting a team that constantly disgraces the NHL with their gutless cheapshots and diving sure doesn't help. The city is an absolute cesspool where ancestry.ca is the #1 dating app, and is full of ignorant rednecks who elect subhuman maggots who try to destroy Canada. A sizeable portion of those losers are traitors who want to leave Canada as a result of the civilized part of the country not liking their racist political parties. I see no reason anyone should pretend that city is not one of the worst places on the planet. The Flames are a perfect fit for that fanbase; Lucic looks like his family tree is a bunch of figure 8's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Price of building material has gone crazy..Price will cost 30 -40 million since last quote if not more on a 600,000 million dollar arena... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtman Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 5 hours ago, King Heffy said: It's not just because they're Flames fans, although supporting a team that constantly disgraces the NHL with their gutless cheapshots and diving sure doesn't help. The city is an absolute cesspool where ancestry.ca is the #1 dating app, and is full of ignorant rednecks who elect subhuman maggots who try to destroy Canada. A sizeable portion of those losers are traitors who want to leave Canada as a result of the civilized part of the country not liking their racist political parties. I see no reason anyone should pretend that city is not one of the worst places on the planet. The Flames are a perfect fit for that fanbase; Lucic looks like his family tree is a bunch of figure 8's. I grew up in White Rock, then Surrey, and now live in Calgary. The city is clean, relatively quiet, super close to the mountains and the Bow is beautiful. It may not be Vancouver, but how many cities compare to Van? The people for the most part are super nice. I've ran into WAY worse people growing up in BC than in Calgary. Yeah, you definitely have your racists, and your ignorant assholes. Can't deny that. However the majority of people are hard working, honest, friendly people. The Flames are really not nearly as bad as you make them out to be either. Sure, they have some douchey players, but what team doesn't? You could argue just as well that Cooke, Marchand, Wilson, Reaves etc are dirtbags. All those orgs are complete and utter trash? Give your head a shake man. I rarely like to make long posts like this but you're really much worse than anything you've described. So much hate and prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 4:23 PM, butters said: I don't think there are differences between any team's fan bases. Sure there are toxic fans, but they are on every team. And if you spend time talking about another team's fans are you really any different than them? Well many players of colour say different about Boston sports fans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 17 hours ago, King Heffy said: It's not just because they're Flames fans, although supporting a team that constantly disgraces the NHL with their gutless cheapshots and diving sure doesn't help. The city is an absolute cesspool where ancestry.ca is the #1 dating app, and is full of ignorant rednecks who elect subhuman maggots who try to destroy Canada. A sizeable portion of those losers are traitors who want to leave Canada as a result of the civilized part of the country not liking their racist political parties. I see no reason anyone should pretend that city is not one of the worst places on the planet. The Flames are a perfect fit for that fanbase; Lucic looks like his family tree is a bunch of figure 8's. wow, it must be exhausting to be this hateful. I don't think you actually hate calgary that much. I think its misplaced frustration from whatever wrong turns you've made in life. Focus on making your life better and you wont get caught up in this anger fueled bull$&!#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Gnarcore said: Well many players of colour say different about Boston sports fans the city in general. Let's nor pretend that racism is just a sports thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, butters said: the city in general. Let's nor pretend that racism is just a sports thing. No one said it was. But not all cities sports fans are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 9:01 PM, rekker said: I will not rest till I hear George Canyon's take on this. Lol. You will rest the second he opens that slack jaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 In response to numerous media inquiries this evening, Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation ("CSEC") provides the following update to the citizens of Calgary regarding the Event Centre Project. CSEC's primary objective in pursuing the Event Centre Project has been to provide Calgarians a first class facility with an entertainment experience, not only for hockey, but for other events including concerts, comparable to other major cities. However, at this point, it is clear that the City and CSEC have been unable to resolve a number of issues relating to the escalating costs of the Project. Accordingly, as the City and CSEC have been unable to resolve these issues, CSEC has determined that there is no viable path to complete the Event Centre Project. When the agreements were first executed back in December 2019 the parties agreed to a cost sharing arrangement of 50%/50% with respect to the design and construction of the new Event Centre. In July 2021, with these costs increasing to $608.5 million, the City informed CSEC they were not able to fund their 50% share which, under the terms of the Project Framework Agreement, would have resulted in termination at that time. Instead CSEC agreed to fund a disproportionate share ($321 million to City's $287.5 million) and agreed to accept the risk of reasonable future design and construction cost increases related to the Event Centre in spite of our original 50%/50% agreement. The most recent cost estimates place the total cost of the Event Centre at $634 million which means CSEC would be responsible for an additional $25.5 million of cost. The resulting cost sharing would have been $346.5 million for CSEC and $287.5 million for the City and, CSEC would continue to be responsible for further cost increases related to the construction of the Event Centre. Unfortunately, there are now $19 million of new cost items related to infrastructure and climate being insisted upon by the City for which they are seeking an additional $10 million in funding from CSEC. While CSEC was prepared to move forward in the face of escalating construction costs and assume the unknown future cost risks, CSEC was not prepared to fund the infrastructure and climate costs that were introduced by the City following our July agreement and were not included in the $608.5 million and are not included in the current cost estimate of $634 million. The failure of the City and CSEC to find a viable path forward was not based upon simply the "the last dollar" on the table; but rather was based upon the accumulated increase in CSEC's share of the costs, including the infrastructure and climate costs, the overall risk factors related to the Project and the inability of CSEC and the City to find a path forward that would work for both parties. In summary, the primary reasons for this difficult decision include: 1) Introduction by the City of significant infrastructure costs ($15 million) and climate mitigation costs ($4 million); costs not previously identified as project costs by CMLC or the City nor included in the $608.5 million target budget in July 2021. 2) Continued cost escalation experienced since the approved budget of $608.5 million in July 2021. It has since grown to $634 million based upon design development that was completed in October 2021. 3) High level of risk associated with future project cost increases in part due to supply chain issues and commodity price escalation as a result of the impact of COVID. While not ideal for Calgarians nor competitively for the Flames, the people of Calgary should understand that nevertheless CSEC's intentions are to remain in the Scotiabank Saddledome. We are deeply disappointed with the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 8:50 PM, NewbieCanuckFan said: "In 2019, the City of Calgary and CSEC agreed to split the $550 million cost to build the arena on lands to the north of the existing site of the Scotiabank Saddledome" In the province where they felt the need for an even further to the right of center party, you have them agree to provide corporate welfare (split the costs) for a team who's net worth is just under half a billion dollars (source: https://www.forbes.com/teams/calgary-flames/?sh=5f94d4321905). Meanwhile the Canucks play in an arena completely funded privately. In a city full of left wing hippies. We paid for the BC Place roof though, didn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 4/15/2021 at 6:02 PM, butters said: I guess I just don't think that sports are anything to get worked over, especially to the extent that you would trash people just for being fans of a team. That's taking it way too seriously. It's just a form of permissible racism. I'm from Van but lived in Calgary for a long time Just confused now about whether I'm a acceptable or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 4/15/2021 at 6:09 PM, King Heffy said: It's not just because they're Flames fans, although supporting a team that constantly disgraces the NHL with their gutless cheapshots and diving sure doesn't help. The city is an absolute cesspool where ancestry.ca is the #1 dating app, and is full of ignorant rednecks who elect subhuman maggots who try to destroy Canada. A sizeable portion of those losers are traitors who want to leave Canada as a result of the civilized part of the country not liking their racist political parties. I see no reason anyone should pretend that city is not one of the worst places on the planet. The Flames are a perfect fit for that fanbase; Lucic looks like his family tree is a bunch of figure 8's. I absolutely hate it when fans trash fans from other cities!!!! Unless it's Boston or Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, VancouverHabitant said: We paid for the BC Place roof though, didn't we? Yeah but that doesn't have anything to do with current or past Canucks ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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