DownUndaCanuck Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I wonder if this extra delay happens without Miller making these comments? Probably, but it does help to get the word out, someone has to speak out. I know Pearson said something similar but good on Miller for having our guys' backs. Say what you want about the year he's having but he's a leader for this team, much more vocal than Bo (for better or for worse). I don't think you want your captain coming out with these comments but someone had to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 How is JT Miller not the captain of this team? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 13 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: Well the day JT spoke Horvat was cleared and likely wanted to spend time out of the basement and with his young son and wife. It's likely an emotional time for those who've endured this illness..maybe cut him some slack? in a forum full of excuses that Deb Is the worst excuse yet a leader leads when times are tough not go play with your baby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Shirotashi said: Where is Horvat? Why isnt Horvat the one speaking up? smh.... The team decides who speaks to the media, at these zoom calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, lmm said: in a forum full of excuses that Deb Is the worst excuse yet a leader leads when times are tough not go play with your baby The team decides who speaks to the media, at these zoom calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 minute ago, gurn said: The team decides who speaks to the media, at these zoom calls. the captain has been muzzled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Shirotashi said: Where is Horvat? Why isnt Horvat the one speaking up? smh.... Horvat 100% toes the PC line, haven't you noticed yet? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, xereau said: Horvat 100% toes the PC line, haven't you noticed yet? I gave you a bag if you look inside you will find our captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: How is JT Miller not the captain of this team? Horvat is more representative of our future, but have thought for some time, that Miller should at least have an A on his Jersey. He's a strong leader on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, lmm said: the captain has been muzzled? Just where did I say that? If you pay closer attention to these zoom press conferences you will begin to notice that different players are brought out to talk at different times. Sharing the misery of dealing with idiotic media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 minute ago, gurn said: Just where did I say that? If you pay closer attention to these zoom press conferences you will begin to notice that different players are brought out to talk at different times. Sharing the misery of dealing with idiotic media. idiotic media? you are blaming idiotic media? people with something to say, will have their voices heard but back to your idiotic media comment, I am much more amazed bythe idiotic excuses fans have come up with to support the ongoing mediocre Deb said Bo couldn't speak because he had to play with his baby the excuses just keep on rolling in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, lmm said: in a forum full of excuses that Deb Is the worst excuse yet a leader leads when times are tough not go play with your baby I would give my life for my kids I would not for any job in this world and I would rather spend my time with them than running back to give my opinion to the public any day and always so if Bo is a devoted father good on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewman Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, lmm said: idiotic media? you are blaming idiotic media? people with something to say, will have their voices heard but back to your idiotic media comment, I am much more amazed bythe idiotic excuses fans have come up with to support the ongoing mediocre Deb said Bo couldn't speak because he had to play with his baby the excuses just keep on rolling in Anybody who thinks that a person's priority should be to do a media scrum right after you've had a variant covid run through your system and been removed from your new born son for days has a serious values problem. It's not about excuses, it's about being a human being and not asking someone who is physically and mentally drained to deal with something that will be mentally draining (yes media is mentally draining) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Water Walker Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Miller is one outspoken guy, remember the playoffs last year? That Dressing room scene? The Players have been texting and talking, and most likely all had the same opinion and it was J.T. Miller that said it. And as a leader on the team could very well have said, " no Bo let me do it less hassle that way " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Drewman said: Anybody who thinks that a person's priority should be to do a media scrum right after you've had a variant covid run through your system and been removed from your new born son for days has a serious values problem. It's not about excuses, it's about being a human being and not asking someone who is physically and mentally drained to deal with something that will be mentally draining (yes media is mentally draining) So let me get this straight, The guy is too warn down to face the media, ( I never said he needed to face the media, I said he should speak out, there is twitter for this kind of thing) is OK to play hockey today? that almost makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Absolutely love Miller, feels like he’s been here for 10 seasons already. I have much appreciation for his salt in open wounds when it needs it. Miller is Stan Smyl 3.0 .. hope to see JT retire here, he has brought the right mix to this group, hope others learn to get his swagger and call it as it is. Should be wearing the C+ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 22 hours ago, lmm said: So let me get this straight, The guy is too warn down to face the media, ( I never said he needed to face the media, I said he should speak out, there is twitter for this kind of thing) is OK to play hockey today? that almost makes sense OK I am going to back track on this, because Bo Horvat is the NHLPA member for the Canucks and after seeing his interview , I think he was going through NHLPA channels. On a side note, Only Horvat and Ander Lee are captains and NHLPA execs Any way appologies to Horvat, he was speaking out, just through a different medium 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 9:33 AM, VegasCanuck said: Horvat is more representative of our future, but have thought for some time, that Miller should at least have an A on his Jersey. He's a strong leader on the team. Horvat is a good captain. But if we didn't name a captain last season and were to name one at the start of this season, it will be hard choice between Horvat and Miller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp3nny Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 For me, Miller is too emotional to be the captain. At times, this can be an excellent strength and motivator for the team as we saw last year when he willed the Canucks with his effort on many occasions. However, Miller has shown his frustration this year, not only in what he has said to the media, but in his on ice play. And while it can be good to be upset or frustrated, I've seen Miller give up on plays, passes, or even back skating or getting off for a change many times this year, usually after a mistake by himself or his teammate. If this pisses me off as a viewer, you know it affects his teammates, and probably even more so. Bo has a more internal passion, whereas JT's is external. It's good to have both leader types on a team, however, I personally feel Bo is the better overall leader. My 2C... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sp3nny said: For me, Miller is too emotional to be the captain. At times, this can be an excellent strength and motivator for the team as we saw last year when he willed the Canucks with his effort on many occasions. However, Miller has shown his frustration this year, not only in what he has said to the media, but in his on ice play. And while it can be good to be upset or frustrated, I've seen Miller give up on plays, passes, or even back skating or getting off for a change many times this year, usually after a mistake by himself or his teammate. If this pisses me off as a viewer, you know it affects his teammates, and probably even more so. Bo has a more internal passion, whereas JT's is external. It's good to have both leader types on a team, however, I personally feel Bo is the better overall leader. My 2C... I’m trying to remember this, wasn’t it JT that Demko gave a very loud “WTF dude!” to after a lazy play that resulted in a goal earlier in the year? JT was being criticized heavily here and had his attitude questioned by the media not very long ago. Players were said to be getting irritated by him and by his frustration. I love the guy and appreciated him speaking up but that isn’t the same thing as saying he should be the captain. A good captain needs to be even-keeled and blow up rarely but effectively. If Bo gets mad his teammates sit up and take notice. Having said this, JT is still one of the leaders on the team with or without a letter on his jersey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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