24K PureCool Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just enforce the salary cap in the playoffs and all of this goes away. K, throw a bone, the team on ice must be under the cap. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, gurn said: Also if Toronto and Tampa can "get away with it', the least the league can do is void the last year of Loungo's recapture penalty. Not that I disagree but how do you make that argument? Not really Apples to Apples though it should be. In all honesty it's the type of thing I would expect any good GM to do as long as it was within the rules at the time...... Ehem Cough. Edited April 21, 2021 by hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) dbl post Edited April 21, 2021 by hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Slegr said: What do you think about it? Doesn't seem much different than how the Canucks managed the cap in 2011. If memory serves correct, they had a bunch of guys recover just in time for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: I think the NHL is slimy, and allows certain teams to get away with shady business. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, goalie13 said: Doesn't seem much different than how the Canucks managed the cap in 2011. If memory serves correct, they had a bunch of guys recover just in time for the playoffs. A bunch of guys? Who would they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Slegr said: A bunch of guys? Who would they be? Now you're taxing my memory. Salo for sure. I think Bieksa, Edler and Hamhuis all lost a stack of games each due to injury. I recall wondering at the time how they were going to make the cap work but someone always seemed to get injured just as another guy was coming back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Slegr said: A bunch of guys? Who would they be? Would it have mattered? Manny could play what one to two games with his eye injury in the playoffs? Hamhuis was out in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, goalie13 said: Doesn't seem much different than how the Canucks managed the cap in 2011. If memory serves correct, they had a bunch of guys recover just in time for the playoffs. Sam Salo comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hardly surprising that it happens, and like others said Vancouver uses it too, eg. with Ferland, Beagle and Petey on LTIR so Vancouver could afford Hamonic this past off-season. In fact, if you check Capfriendly, we're currently at 4th highest in salary cap at $86,019,565 (only behind TB's monstrous $98.7 million, St Louis at $90 million and NYI at $88 million). Toronto is at $84.16 million, still in the upper 1/3 of the league but less than VAN (we also have more than $8 million in LTIR). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Fanuck said: People kidding themselves if they think the NHL is going to take action against it's self-anointed flagship franchise. They didn’t take action when the Calgary Flames deliberately iced a roster less than the mandated size a number of years back. They were at the cap limit and had a number of guys injured. They couldn’t call up anyone nor activate anybody (the nature of some of the injured players were not as bad as forcing to put those guys on LITR). Not a single peep from the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, lmm said: Sam Salo comes to mind Salo injured? Nah that wouldn’t be believable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Fanuck said: People kidding themselves if they think the NHL is going to take action against it's self-anointed flagship franchise. There would be a quick/easy solution to this - anyone on LTIR that doesn't return by the last 10 games of the regular season (or pick whatever number you feel reasonable) is thereby ineligible to return to active status (regular season or post-season) until the following regular season - watch these 'injured' players get healed right fast. Have you written any Georgia voting bills lately? That solution would punish teams that might have a legit late season injury. It's trying to fix a problem that just needs the NHL to enforce the rules they already have. But back to Toronto, there's no way to enforce this kind of thing down to the day. There will always be some leeway, and rollerblading is not 60 minutes in an NHL net stopping pucks. Players are only off LTI once they're medically cleared *and*roughly back to game fitness. If the Leafs (and Tampa for that matter, but Kucherov's injury is a little tougher to say he's cleared) continue to push the limit, then the NHL should step in, but I don't think the NHL can definitively prove anything at this point to be able to punish the Leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) &^@# the Leafs, &^@# Tampa, and &^@# the league brass for letting them get away with it while we deal with the recapture bull$&!# anchor Edited April 22, 2021 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Another solution is to have teams pay back the LTIR cap. Say a team have to pay back say 75% of the LTIR cap used within three or four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 hours ago, gurn said: Tampa and Toronto seem to be "manipulating the cap system". Maybe if our city was called Tancouver we could get away with it too? Tamcouver Bay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I'd rather see the NHL drop the Luongo recapture penalty. As others have said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Salo injured? Nah that wouldn’t be believable. you probably think I am nuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: They didn’t take action when the Calgary Flames deliberately iced a roster less than the mandated size a number of years back. They were at the cap limit and had a number of guys injured. They couldn’t call up anyone nor activate anybody (the nature of some of the injured players were not as bad as forcing to put those guys on LITR). Not a single peep from the league. I thought they imposed a minimum roster size after that incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, lmm said: you probably think I am nuts Not all the time... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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