Jaimito Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I am always amazed at these Indo Canadian gangs. In the last 25 years, I have never even heard about any crime committed by Americans of Indian descent. Majority are well off, own their businesses, work as doctors, engineers, computer geeks etc. We have around 172k Indians in the metro area and they are the most peaceful non violent ethnic group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 15 hours ago, KelownaCanucksFan said: Yeah it’s very rare that crimes are committed by PAL holder’s and with legal firearms, I get an inspection at my home randomly to check on my restricted guns (only twice in the last year) Maybe if they spent that time going after the real criminals and not some of the most responsible citizens this wouldn’t be an issue, but that doesn’t fit the narrative If most PAL holders don't commit crimes wouldn't you say the program is working as it was intended? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, CBH1926 said: I am always amazed at these Indo Canadian gangs. In the last 25 years, I have never even heard about any crime committed by Americans of Indian descent. Majority are well off, own their businesses, work as doctors, engineers, computer geeks etc. We have around 172k Indians in the metro area and they are the most peaceful non violent ethnic group. Most of them come from families that aren't exactly struggling. I don't know about Toronto but for most part it really is a Vancouver thing. In other Canadian cities they are not even remotely a presence like in Van. Similar to how there is no Italian thing out west. We have our bikers, Triads/Asian gangs, Indos and a few multi racial gangs like the UN and Red Scorpions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Jaimito said: Are we, when it comes to gun violence, fast becoming a US city like Chicago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Are we, when it comes to gun violence, fast becoming a US city like Chicago? Not even remotely close. It is concerning sure but when compared to the worst US cities it pals in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Gnarcore said: Stiffer sentences doesn't work as a deterrent and leads to higher recidivism without the proper programs in place. You know what does work? Legalization and taxation of drugs. Take away their biggest revenue stream while sinking the profits into education and treatment. one of the benefits of getting another majority for the liberals is it would give them a window to actually implement this. Its really time, it should be obvious by now that we can't somehow beat criminals and gangs in this game with more policing. I'm not knocking the police, but it does nothing when they show up after the fact and they have almost no means of preventing crime. The police have been handed an impossible task. A legal/decriminalized safe supply is the only idea that has a chance of working imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Gnarcore said: Most of them come from families that aren't exactly struggling. I don't know about Toronto but for most part it really is a Vancouver thing. In other Canadian cities they are not even remotely a presence like in Van. Similar to how there is no Italian thing out west. We have our bikers, Triads/Asian gangs, Indos and a few multi racial gangs like the UN and Red Scorpions. Even when it comes to gangs Canadians are inclusive. Two largest gangs in Chicago Metro are vice lords and gangster disciples. Out of 50k members, you would be hard pressed to find 2 non black persons. Latin kings might have few whites and blacks but overall, all these gangs are racially segregated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CBH1926 Posted May 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Alflives said: Are we, when it comes to gun violence, fast becoming a US city like Chicago? Chicago worked very hard to earn its gang and killing reputation since the days of Al Capone. We are not getting dethroned by lumberjack country! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: Even when it comes to gangs Canadians are inclusive. Two largest gangs in Chicago Metro are vice lords and gangster disciples. Out of 50k members, you would be hard pressed to find 2 non black persons. Latin kings might have few whites and blacks but overall, all these gangs are racially segregated. Ya it's pretty odd here too honestly. Bikers don't allow black people, black gangs aren't out west but in TO are by nationality mostly and in Montreal a group of African descent are on the rise and even took on the Rizzuto clan at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 hours ago, CBH1926 said: Chicago worked very hard to earn its gang and killing reputation since the days of Al Capone. We are not getting dethroned by lumberjack country! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 hours ago, CBH1926 said: Even when it comes to gangs Canadians are inclusive. Two largest gangs in Chicago Metro are vice lords and gangster disciples. Out of 50k members, you would be hard pressed to find 2 non black persons. Latin kings might have few whites and blacks but overall, all these gangs are racially segregated. Besides the United Nations gang that was started here in the lower mainland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 I don't believe this. Theres no gangs and guns. Trudeau outlawed all the guns didn't he? He said all people with guns were bad people. Oh wait that was just legal law abiding citizens he went after considering whats the stat like 95% of gun related crimes are illegal imported guns. Its to bad him and Jag won't team up and push with the Cons on harder sentences. Cons had that as one of their platforms but Liberals just pander and NDP want to reform people. Our sentences are pathetic here, theres no incentive for these guys to give up this life, I just hope and pray no innocents are harmed and they only manage to pick off each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Russ said: I don't believe this. Theres no gangs and guns. Trudeau outlawed all the guns didn't he? He said all people with guns were bad people. Oh wait that was just legal law abiding citizens he went after considering whats the stat like 95% of gun related crimes are illegal imported guns. Its to bad him and Jag won't team up and push with the Cons on harder sentences. Cons had that as one of their platforms but Liberals just pander and NDP want to reform people. Our sentences are pathetic here, theres no incentive for these guys to give up this life, I just hope and pray no innocents are harmed and they only manage to pick off each other. Longer sentences and more jails doesnt work. The Cons wanted to emulate US prison style under Harpoon and have no plan for jack $&!# now. Hows the US doing with this problem on a far worse scale...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Go the Duterte route and execute convicted drug dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 12:48 AM, Ghostsof1915 said: Good thing they are putting in more gun control. Sure helps with the gun smuggling, illegal firearms purchases, and stopping gang violence. Maybe if the feds put money into stiffer sentences, and more police enforcing the laws. Trudeau is such a knee jerk wanker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 4:54 AM, Canuck Surfer said: 25 years ago it was the Indo Canadian gangs battling each other? Or the Hells Angels in deals or power plays for drug supremacy. Or for a hot date with Gillian Guess... What is it now? Real Estate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Beautiful British Columbia! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Legalise all drugs. Take the main income away from these gangster dirt bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 9:27 PM, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: If most PAL holders don't commit crimes wouldn't you say the program is working as it was intended? Previously yes but now the rhetoric from the liberals is all about black guns bad, why ban a bunch of guns last year if they weren’t a problem or contributing to crime? This ban essentially turned many legal gun owners into criminals over night. As you said the program was working as intended, which makes their gun grab not about fixing any problems, but vilifying legal responsible citizens while the criminals continue to get their illegal guns and commit crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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