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13 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

I agree with the concerns outlined in the article below - and can't help but think: if the cops were truly wanting to out some of the gang members, why aren't they listing members of the Hell's Angels, for example?  Or other caucasians with known gang ties?

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gang-campaign-racial-profiling-1.6036816

 

The cops claimed for many years that systemic racism wasn't an issue in their ranks.  Actions like this goes to show that it's very much alive and thriving.

The HA aren’t involved in this latest rash of public shooting.  
It’s not how they operate.   
Do they do greasy stuff?   Yup 

Are they dumb enough to do it in a mall parking lot in front of people?   Nah

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1 hour ago, drummerboy said:

The HA aren’t involved in this latest rash of public shooting.  
It’s not how they operate.   
Do they do greasy stuff?   Yup 

Are they dumb enough to do it in a mall parking lot in front of people?   Nah

Well not in BC or even Montreal anymore. But those guys in Montreal used to do worse. The violence from the HA is well down compared to the 90s up here. 

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12 minutes ago, Gnarcore said:

Well not in BC or even Montreal anymore. But those guys in Montreal used to do worse. The violence from the HA is well down compared to the 90s up here. 

USED to. 
The 90’s were 30 years ago.  
They still do their thing, but the days of public killings like the trash going on now are long gone.  

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1 hour ago, drummerboy said:

USED to. 
The 90’s were 30 years ago.  
They still do their thing, but the days of public killings like the trash going on now are long gone.  

The modern day trash go after the HA trash.

Angel's are very much still in the mix but for sure are not as brazen. 

 

2015 hit attempt on HA ...at the airport. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-gangsters-risk-public-1.6029161

Ryan, a full-patch member of the Hells Angels, was the target of a wild 2015 murder attempt at the Vancouver airport food court, carried out by a teen disguised in a black burka.

Would-be killer Knowah Ferguson was from Ontario, had no previous criminal record and was promised $200,000 for the hit.

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11 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

The modern day trash go after the HA trash.

Angel's are very much still in the mix but for sure are not as brazen. 

 

2015 hit attempt on HA ...at the airport. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-gangsters-risk-public-1.6029161

Ryan, a full-patch member of the Hells Angels, was the target of a wild 2015 murder attempt at the Vancouver airport food court, carried out by a teen disguised in a black burka.

Would-be killer Knowah Ferguson was from Ontario, had no previous criminal record and was promised $200,000 for the hit.

Yeah. Someone went after HA publicly.  
 

And I’m sure they do from time to time, but the HA are more known for people to just disappear as opposed to a public mall shooting or something. 

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On 5/21/2021 at 7:40 PM, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

I agree with the concerns outlined in the article below - and can't help but think: if the cops were truly wanting to out some of the gang members, why aren't they listing members of the Hell's Angels, for example?  Or other caucasians with known gang ties?

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gang-campaign-racial-profiling-1.6036816

 

The cops claimed for many years that systemic racism wasn't an issue in their ranks.  Actions like this goes to show that it's very much alive and thriving.

That one guy that is on the list, Ryan is white and is listed as HA member.

My opinion is that list of criminals should be comprised of criminals, I don’t need racial parity.

 

 

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8 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

The modern day trash go after the HA trash.

Angel's are very much still in the mix but for sure are not as brazen. 

 

2015 hit attempt on HA ...at the airport. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-gangsters-risk-public-1.6029161

Ryan, a full-patch member of the Hells Angels, was the target of a wild 2015 murder attempt at the Vancouver airport food court, carried out by a teen disguised in a black burka.

Would-be killer Knowah Ferguson was from Ontario, had no previous criminal record and was promised $200,000 for the hit.

Kind of miss the days of Chicago outfit controlling the neighborhoods.

They went after people that were involved with organized crime, never after women and kids.

 

Also when they carried out hits or bombings, they always killed intended targets.

These gang banging scumbags today kill more innocent people than other gang bangers.

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12 hours ago, CBH1926 said:

Kind of miss the days of Chicago outfit controlling the neighborhoods.

They went after people that were involved with organized crime, never after women and kids.

 

Also when they carried out hits or bombings, they always killed intended targets.

These gang banging scumbags today kill more innocent people than other gang bangers.

Criminals seem to all have guns.  Do the rest of us need guns now to protect ourselves?  Or do we all start wearing body armour?  It’s becoming like the USA up here for gun violence in the streets.  

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49 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Criminals seem to all have guns.  Do the rest of us need guns now to protect ourselves?  Or do we all start wearing body armour?  It’s becoming like the USA up here for gun violence in the streets.  

No. The US has shown is that just leads to people shooting off their own feet or being killed by their toddlers. 

 

I think we need to become more like Portugal and treat drugs as a disease instead of a crime, and give out safe free drugs to addicts who come to places like the safe injection site who are willing to get into a program for help. 

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59 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Do the rest of us need guns now to protect ourselves?

No, way too many people getting shot by their own gun, or their kid kills a sibling with a gun some moron left out.

already posted in world events thread, about a half hour ago:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/toddler-finds-gun-in-sofa-accidentally-shoots-young-sister/ar-AAKhcMv?ocid=msedgdhp

 

 

^ Stories like the above happen every freaking day down south, don't need that up here; even if it "only" happens once a week due to our lesser population.

 

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41 minutes ago, gurn said:

No, way too many people getting shot by their own gun, or their kid kills a sibling with a gun some moron left out.

already posted in world events thread, about a half hour ago:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/toddler-finds-gun-in-sofa-accidentally-shoots-young-sister/ar-AAKhcMv?ocid=msedgdhp

 

 

^ Stories like the above happen every freaking day down south, don't need that up here; even if it "only" happens once a week due to our lesser population.

 

More guns, of course, isn’t the answer.  But when these violent shooting are happening so frequently here now there will come a time we will need to fight back.  If the government won’t do it with extreme punishment (bring back hanging) then we will see common good folk arming up.  I think we are too soft on violent criminals.  Is prison really a deterrent to violent gang members?  

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45 minutes ago, Alflives said:

If the government won’t do it with extreme punishment (bring back hanging)

The following people disagree with capital punishment:

David Milgaard

Donald Marshall jr.

Guy Paul Morin

Shannon Murrin

Thomas Soppanow

Steven Truscott

 

and I'm sure more than a few more.

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

More guns, of course, isn’t the answer.  But when these violent shooting are happening so frequently here now there will come a time we will need to fight back.  If the government won’t do it with extreme punishment (bring back hanging) then we will see common good folk arming up.  I think we are too soft on violent criminals.  Is prison really a deterrent to violent gang members?  

Execute them. 'Love' how we beat around the bush when it comes to what to do with these individuals. But this pacifist country is hesitant to even put them in prison for any 'considerable' amount of time so obviously that is a pipe dream. 

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4 hours ago, Alflives said:

Criminals seem to all have guns.  Do the rest of us need guns now to protect ourselves?  Or do we all start wearing body armour?  It’s becoming like the USA up here for gun violence in the streets.  

It really isn't. 

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1 hour ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Execute them. 'Love' how we beat around the bush when it comes to what to do with these individuals. But this pacifist country is hesitant to even put them in prison for any 'considerable' amount of time so obviously that is a pipe dream. 

It is not an effective deterrent and costs more in the long run. So your plan sucks on two fronts. 

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3 minutes ago, Gnarcore said:

It is not an effective deterrent and costs more in the long run. So your plan sucks on two fronts. 

Do these murderers fear prison?  It’s like a right of passage, or a badge of honour for them to serve time.  They even murder (target) prison guards, who are off duty.  

Clearly what we are currently doing isn’t working.  The gun violence is a daily occurrence now.  

Do we need to counsel the gangsters?  How about have them hug-out and talk through their differences?  These are violent criminals.  

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20 minutes ago, Gnarcore said:

It is not an effective deterrent and costs more in the long run. So your plan sucks on two fronts. 

Why does it need to be a deterrent; these parasites don't deserve to exist. It only costs more because that's how the system was designed like that; it can and should be changed.

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3 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Why does it need to be a deterrent; these parasites don't deserve to exist. It only costs more because that's how the system was designed like that; it can and should be changed.

Oh so you're just out for revenge? And if you want the system changed in that manner I'd suggest you're living in the wrong country and to move elsewhere more in line with your beliefs.  

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